Register FAQ / Rules Forum Spy Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   MacRumors Forums > Apple Hardware > Desktops > Mac mini

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Nov 16, 2012, 11:23 AM   #1
Katieg-fm
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Should I buy or wait?

I was all set to order a new Mac mini, which I planned to use with my Phillips tv via hdmi, but now I am reading about black screen and snow problems. It seems pretty much guaranteed that I won't be able to use hdmi to hdmi, correct?

Also, I don't live anywhere near an apple store, so if it is doesn't work, it doesn't seem like there are any solutions from apple other than returning correct?

Any advice would be appreciated!
Katieg-fm is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 16, 2012, 11:35 AM   #2
tom vilsack
macrumors 68000
 
tom vilsack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: ladner cdn
At a starting price of $599,why would anyone buy or keep this flawed product?

I'm waiting.
tom vilsack is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 16, 2012, 11:36 AM   #3
pollaxe
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: West of England
From an HDMI to HDMI guy who has to drive an hour and a half to my nearest Apple store, tonight, to return my Mini I would say wait and see if Apple release a fix.

So many people are having issues that I would not recommend anyone to buy the new Mini if they're going to use the onboard HDMI port, even if it's with an adapter. There is clearly a major issue with it (debate is raging as to its cause) but until Apple acknowledge it and a fix is forthcoming, no-one knows for sure what's going to happen, so I would say, don't buy it yet...
pollaxe is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 16, 2012, 11:45 AM   #4
dasx
macrumors 65816
 
dasx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Barcelona
If you don't need it wait for a fix. If you need it then go for it and get a Thunderbolt to HDMI adapter. No black screen issues.
(10 bucks)
__________________
Grey computer which does complicated stuff.
Cell phone that can talk to me. (Seriously).
"Fancy quote from dead guy"
dasx is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 16, 2012, 11:54 AM   #5
Ifti
macrumors 65816
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: UK
My new Mac mini server is fine and I'm using just a HDMI lead connected to a 46" Samsung HDTV. I have no screen issues.
Remember apple have probably sold thousands of these units worldwide by now - the issues you read on the Internet are mainly from customers having issues and seeking advice. You rarely here from those whose systems are working fine. I would estimate the % of affected units is realistically very low anyway.
As I said, I've not experienced any issues whatsoever.
__________________
See my YouTube Channel for reviews & tech tips!
2012 Mac Mini Server / 2.6GHz Quad i7/8GB/2x1TB HDD
2013 MBA11 1.7GHz Dual i7/8/256 - 2013 rMBP15 2.6GHz Quad i7/16/1TB/750m
TC / Lacie TB2 20TB
Ifti is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 16, 2012, 11:58 AM   #6
poloponies
macrumors 68030
 
Join Date: May 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by tom vilsack View Post
At a starting price of $599,why would anyone buy or keep this flawed product?

I'm waiting.
I have purchased two. Neither exhibit flaws. I can't imagine it's a consistent defect.
poloponies is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 16, 2012, 12:33 PM   #7
Katieg-fm
Thread Starter
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by poloponies View Post
I have purchased two. Neither exhibit flaws. I can't imagine it's a consistent defect.
And u use yours connected via hdmi port? I just want be sure I make the best decision. The mini will be for home in my living room where I have no office and no alternate monitor hence connected to TV. I suppose I could go thunderbolt to hdmi but like the first reply, it's a lot of money if not everything works perfect...
Katieg-fm is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 16, 2012, 01:08 PM   #8
pollaxe
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: West of England
It took ten or eleven days of fairly solid use for my Mini to show the problems, I suspect many people who think they haven't got the issue, just haven't seen it yet. I could be wrong - and for all of you in this category, I sincerely hope that I am - but it is a strong suspicion.

The OP states that she lives a long way from an Apple Store, Apple have not acknowledged the issue even exists, yet it's clear from looking on here and the Apple Support Communities that a significant number of buyers have had the issue. I've had it myself. Therefore, I would say that there's a good chance that she will be affected if she buys.

The poll in this forum speaks for itself on the HDMI issues. No-one seems to agree on whether it's a hardware problem or a software issue or whether it affects every machine but it's clear that a significant number of people are encountering problems with their HDMI outputs. Can it be fixed? Hopefully, but I would not want to gamble my hard-earned cash on it.

I'm returning mine and will wait and watch to see what happens before I consider buying again.
pollaxe is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 16, 2012, 01:15 PM   #9
fa8362
macrumors 65816
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by pollaxe View Post

The poll in this forum speaks for itself on the HDMI issues.

Actually, no it doesn't. The poll is missing 99.9% of people who have purchased the new Mac Mini and the method used is not probabilistic. That means it can easily be misleading.
fa8362 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 16, 2012, 01:22 PM   #10
poloponies
macrumors 68030
 
Join Date: May 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by fa8362 View Post
Actually, no it doesn't. The poll is missing 99.9% of people who have purchased the new Mac Mini and the method used is not probabilistic. That means it can easily be misleading.
I don't seek out forums to not complain about problems that I'm not experiencing. Even here. where I visit regularly, I rarely bother with polls because they're either pointless or address issues that don't affect me. Again, I don't doubt that people are experiencing problems, but it's also clear that it's not the case for all purchasers and may very well be very isolated.
poloponies is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 16, 2012, 01:33 PM   #11
calvol
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Wait, or you'll be sorry. This is a major issue with the HD4000 GPU first noticed in Win/Linux platforms back in June, and Intel still hasn't fixed. I wouldn't spend my money hoping a fix would happen anytime soon. I RMA'd my Mini 2.6, totally UNSAT!
calvol is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 16, 2012, 01:39 PM   #12
MrXiro
macrumors 68020
 
MrXiro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Besides the bad color issue (which can be corrected in a number of manners) and the 3 second black screen what other issues are there that would warrant a return? The black screen thing happens once a day tops usually a few minutes after a wake up. At least from what I noticed. I got a Mac Mini replacement yesterday and it hasn't acted up yet on me.

The machine is super powerful and I'm loving it so far.
__________________
Whole lotta Apples, very little $.
MrXiro is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 16, 2012, 01:39 PM   #13
pollaxe
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: West of England
Quote:
Originally Posted by fa8362 View Post
Actually, no it doesn't. The poll is missing 99.9% of people who have purchased the new Mac Mini and the method used is not probabilistic. That means it can easily be misleading.
It speaks for itself that some people are clearly having issues with HDMI, as do the pages on the Apple Support Communities. Very few seem to be affected by MDP/Thunderbolt display issues. Of course we don't have a full sample of how many Mac Minis have been sold or of those, how many people are affected (or even using just HDMI) but it does say some people here are clearly having issues; so if you buy a Mac Mini there is a chance you will have the HDMI issue too.

That was my point.

You and I don't know how likely one is to experience that issue, no-one outside of Apple and Intel do. A percentage of units sold will have regular hardware faults, like any technology does. However, there are rumblings across platforms (Windows and Linux, as well as OS X) about this very issue so something, it seems, isn't right and it's affecting people who use HDMI. Whether it's hardware or software, I don't know.

People are free to make their own choices and judgements, I'm someone who has directly experienced the problem and has to drive a long way to the Apple Store, just like the OP, so I empathised with the situation.

It's her money, her decision. If a friend asks whether they should buy a 2012 Mac Mini to use with HDMI I'll give my same opinion; no.

MrXiro, some people are getting longer than a few seconds, I had a loop of them that lasted for several seconds each and some people have to power off their screens, others have reported that they've had to restart their Minis to clear them.

Last edited by pollaxe; Nov 16, 2012 at 01:44 PM. Reason: Reply to MrXiro
pollaxe is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 16, 2012, 01:49 PM   #14
Katieg-fm
Thread Starter
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Thanks for all the input. Seems like there is no easy answer. I could buy one, but I guess it would be a gamble. Some are working fine, but lots aren't, and no way to know what percentage. For right now, i think it's too much money for me to gamble, at least until apple acknowledges the problem and has a fix.
Crappy, since my old hp laptop died and now I,m stuck waiting! Was really hoping for a mini Xmas present to myself!
Katieg-fm is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 16, 2012, 04:22 PM   #15
poloponies
macrumors 68030
 
Join Date: May 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katieg-fm View Post
Some are working fine, but lots aren't, and no way to know what percentage.
The point is that it may very well be that MOST are working fine and some aren't.
poloponies is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 16, 2012, 04:55 PM   #16
calvol
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katieg-fm View Post
Thanks for all the input. Seems like there is no easy answer. I could buy one, but I guess it would be a gamble. Some are working fine, but lots aren't, and no way to know what percentage. For right now, i think it's too much money for me to gamble, at least until apple acknowledges the problem and has a fix.
Crappy, since my old hp laptop died and now I,m stuck waiting! Was really hoping for a mini Xmas present to myself!
Good decision! I waited 6 months for the updated Mini, and am severely disappointed to see it released with an Intel GPU issue that's been outstanding since June. I'm buying a 2011, and wait till the next update.
calvol is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 16, 2012, 08:40 PM   #17
RiderX
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by poloponies View Post
The point is that it may very well be that MOST are working fine and some aren't.
Yep. But those with issues are the loudest. It's probably a tiny percentage and Apple has difficulties to identify the bug because it is so rare.
RiderX is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 16, 2012, 10:18 PM   #18
Alekto
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Tokyo
Base configuration i5 user here. I have had the black screen a couple of times, but seriously it's not a show stopper. Happens for just a second or two then it's back to normal.
Alekto is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 17, 2012, 10:27 AM   #19
MacOSXuser
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Toronto
definitely not a show stopper, just a bit annoying at times. Switch off and on the monitor solves the issue.

apple has holiday return policy right now, lets you return before 6th Jan 2013, so i'd say just buy it. Experience it yourself, if you dont like it then return it next year.
MacOSXuser is offline   0 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > Apple Hardware > Desktops > Mac mini

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
should i buy now, or wait? findingthelimit iMac 21 Aug 20, 2013 05:40 PM
Should I wait or buy now? ukflyer MacBook Pro 23 May 25, 2013 01:26 PM
Buy now...or wait? Brad2296 iMac 10 Nov 20, 2012 06:41 PM
buy now or wait? jetlagged MacBook Pro 4 Nov 13, 2012 11:57 AM
4S: buy or wait? JES iPhone 6 May 31, 2012 11:38 AM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:42 PM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC