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Old Nov 16, 2012, 02:56 PM   #26
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Is "Breakthrough" Too Strong a Word?

This strikes me as a good way to go about things. The parties get to set the rules that the arbitrator must follow, within prescribed limits. Confidentiality can be enhanced as well.

Let's hope that cooler heads finally are starting to prevail at the GC's office at Apple.
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 02:58 PM   #27
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 02:59 PM   #28
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I can't believe Motorola still has that logo. Now that Google owns then, they've really got to replace the 50's bra with something a little more modern.
Now that you mention it, you're right. It's like something from "The World of Tomorrow" circa 1964 World's Fair.
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 03:03 PM   #29
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I hope not. Android is a stolen OS, it would be disgusting if Google get away with this.
Time to take the tinfoil hat off.
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 03:03 PM   #30
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What???
Please stop with this "stolen" nonsense.
It's pure FUD.

Some people think different from you on that topic:

"I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this."

--Steve Jobs
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 03:05 PM   #31
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The only corporation that is ridiculous is Samsung.

God awful, distasteful company that the world would be a much better place without..

This isn't a 'fanboystic' approach; more personal through use of their dire products.

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Some people think different from you on that topic:

"I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this."

--Steve Jobs
He spread the most FUD about Android and people ate it all up, and still do.
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 03:06 PM   #32
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It's a complex topic when it comes to the array of patent claims. You can't simply reduce that to a two line description.
Steve said it.
I believe it.
And THAT'S IT.

OK. Three lines.

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Old Nov 16, 2012, 03:07 PM   #33
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I can't believe Motorola still has that logo. Now that Google owns then, they've really got to replace the 50's bra with something a little more modern.
...This is where everyone scrolls up the page to see if the logo looks like a 50's bra.
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 03:12 PM   #34
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I don't know about android being a stolen OS, but you certainly will shut up if i said Samsung copied apple.
Typically anytime someone references one of those cases, they don't even understand the claims. The articles on here are designed as light reading most of the time. Sometimes further reference is provided via links, which is helpful if you find it interesting or wish to know everything possible for investment purposes. I'm just really tired of parroted lines.

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Steve said it.
I believe it.
And THAT'S IT.

OK. Three lines.

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I can't believe Motorola still has that logo. Now that Google owns then, they've really got to replace the 50's bra with something a little more modern.
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...This is where everyone scrolls up the page to see if the logo looks like a 50's bra.
You can see it here, in the graphics from a Japanese high school anime story that cast all the phone makers as characters. Motorola is on the far right. Next left is HTC (her HTC wallpaper apron gives it away), then prim Nokia with the cup. Not sure who's next, but then the crazy one with the blaster is Samsung, with LG left of her. The Apple boy is easy.

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As for the news, it should be noted that Motorola first brought up the idea of arbitration on Nov. 5, just before a federal judge in Wisconsin threw out Apple's lawsuit claiming Motorola was misusing its FRAND patents.

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Old Nov 16, 2012, 03:16 PM   #36
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This could be a boon for the industry.

Decent licencing terms between both parties please.
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 03:17 PM   #38
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There goes $12.5 billion.
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 03:18 PM   #39
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Yeah, if he were alive, Steve Jobs might have stroked out seeing Android's market share today. It's playing out a bit like late 80s-early 90s Apple vs Microsoft.
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 03:21 PM   #40
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Basically Apple is being reasonable and Samsung isn't

Yet the fandroids keep screaming at Apple. Go figure.
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 03:26 PM   #41
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I hope not. Android is a stolen OS, it would be disgusting if Google get away with this.
How so? You do realize the iPhone was not the 1st phone with icon, gui OS right, and app store...right? I had a pos LG that had it many years ago.

And I have used both as you probably have, and they are very different phones/operating systems.
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 03:29 PM   #42
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 03:30 PM   #43
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Yeah, if he were alive, Steve Jobs might have stroked out seeing Android's market share today. It's playing out a bit like late 80s-early 90s Apple vs Microsoft.
Yep. This worries me. I don't want to see this happen again.
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 03:31 PM   #44
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There goes $12.5 billion.
What $12.5 billion?
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 03:39 PM   #45
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I hope not. Android is a stolen OS, it would be disgusting if Google get away with this.
lol, I won't fall for this troll
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 03:42 PM   #46
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I hope not. Android is a stolen OS, it would be disgusting if Google get away with this.
sorry, son. this is business, not a disney movie.
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Yep. This worries me. I don't want to see this happen again.
Wouldn't worry. Too much suggests it'll be Apple & MS all over again.
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 03:50 PM   #48
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wouldn't worry. too much suggests it'll be apple & ms all over again.
How so? WP's market share is nowhere close to iOS and Android.
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"Apple's major foe is, however, still Samsung and it appears that there may be no settlement in sight for that dispute."

No kidding. Samsung lost the war. They're fast will a billion dollars in damages that they must pay Apple. They're going to do everything they can including spending that billion dollars on lawyers to avoid paying that billion dollars to Apple. In the end Samsung may lose twice over. Either way they're losers for having copied their customer's product and tried to sell it. This is making it so they're losing their customer too.
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I can't believe Motorola still has that logo. Now that Google owns then, they've really got to replace the 50's bra with something a little more modern.
There is nothing wrong with the batwing logo. It is a timeless logo much like the Coca-Cola logo or the Ford blue oval. There is no reason to change a classic logo that has instant recognition from consumers.
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