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Old Nov 18, 2012, 11:06 AM   #1
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Yoga bad for kids. Naughty, naughty.

Only in California.

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I think school officials are confused about Eastern mysticism, said Broyles, chief counsel for the Escondido-based National Center for Law & Policy, which deals with issues of religious freedom and Christian values.
OK, this is way out there, not to mention mutually exclusive IMO.

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Its hard to know how to respond to someone who says if you touch your toes, youre inviting the devil into your soul.
Shower, 'devil', 'soul'?? Better not try that in a seminary.
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 12:18 PM   #2
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All I have to say to Mr Broyles is...

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Old Nov 18, 2012, 01:54 PM   #3
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Only problem I see with it is yoga pants. :coolface:
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 01:58 PM   #4
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What's next? Lawsuits to ban gym class?
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 02:03 PM   #5
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That is just so silly. They took the positive aspects of yoga and stripped out any cultural reference, yet it's somehow a practice of religion?
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 02:17 PM   #6
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Only problem I see with it is yoga pants. :coolface:
Unno, they're comfy as hell and my girlfriend's bum looks amazing in them.


All joking aside, I have to agree with thekev, they've stripped most of the religion out of it here in the US. There is tho, a touch of spiritualism left though, but nothing inherently "anti-Christian", unless you count veganism as "anti-Christian" (tho, veganism is just evil to me). My GF's gotten me into yoga, she's worried that with my health issues that I'm going to be an old lady before my time, and I've got to admit, it's helping. If yoga can be used to help the children of our country to fight the obesity problem, then Mr Broyles and his clients need to ****.
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All joking aside, I have to agree with thekev, they've stripped most of the religion out of it here in the US. There is tho, a touch of spiritualism left though, but nothing inherently "anti-Christian", unless you count veganism as "anti-Christian" (tho, veganism is just evil to me).
Well I was going by this portion.
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The yoga regimen has been tailored to children. There is no use of Sanskrit, and the names of poses have been changed to “kid-friendly” language such as “gorilla pose” and “mountain pose.”
If it's a healthy exercise, I don't see anything wrong with this. I can remember weight training in high school (part of gym). The gym teachers had no idea how to teach lifting form or supervise such things, especially on stuff like cleans or deadlifts. Some of the kids put way too much back into it. I have an issue with that. I just see this as a religious group acting out of spite.
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 02:36 PM   #8
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This is stupid. We need to be adding MORE physical activities into the school system, not removing them... especially something as beneficial as yoga.


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If it's a healthy exercise, I don't see anything wrong with this. I can remember weight training in high school (part of gym). The gym teachers had no idea how to teach lifting form or supervise such things, especially on stuff like cleans or deadlifts. Some of the kids put way too much back into it. I have an issue with that. I just see this as a religious group acting out of spite.
Agreed. Yeah it was like that back in school for me as well. Form is crucial and the teachers didn't have the credentials to properly teach it.
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That is just so silly. They took the positive aspects of yoga and stripped out any cultural reference, yet it's somehow a practice of religion?
If you look a little deeper, you can see that the values of yoga are in stark contrast to the constant dogma of religion.

Inner peace, contemplation, reflection, questioning, all these and more are an anathema to religious control.

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Unno, they're comfy as hell and my girlfriend's bum looks amazing in them.
Some aren't so lucky.
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 03:45 PM   #10
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Some aren't so lucky.
What? Your buns don't look hot in yoga pants?

I'm sure you're being too hard on yourself.
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 03:49 PM   #11
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Agreed. Yeah it was like that back in school for me as well. Form is crucial and the teachers didn't have the credentials to properly teach it.
The other dumb thing is grading on improvements to max lifts as opposed to factoring in form. It's possible to push more weight in a really bad manner if form is ignored. I agree that things like yoga could be beneficial.

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If you look a little deeper, you can see that the values of yoga are in stark contrast to the constant dogma of religion.

Inner peace, contemplation, reflection, questioning, all these and more are an anathema to religious control.
Maybe that is what they hate.
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Some aren't so lucky.
This is true. There's a woman in my class... I give her props for coming to every class and she is genuinely losing weight, but ye gods, it's like 20lbs of potatoes in a 10lb bag.
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This is true. There's a woman in my class... I give her props for coming to every class and she is genuinely losing weight, but ye gods, it's like 20lbs of potatoes in a 10lb bag.
Does she know you're such a judgmental dick?
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Does she know you're such a judgmental dick?
Judgmental bitch. Get the insult right, darling.
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Only problem I see with it is yoga pants. :coolface:
Well any yoga pants greater than size Medium should be burned.

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The flip side is I do laugh at the countless stories of yogis and yoga goers hurting themselves because not everyone is really cut out for the intensity of the workout. It's a bit funny for all the yuppies that picked it up only to get hurt.
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Judgmental bitch. Get the insult right, darling.
LOL, my bad...
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The other dumb thing is grading on improvements to max lifts as opposed to factoring in form. It's possible to push more weight in a really bad manner if form is ignored. I agree that things like yoga could be beneficial.

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Maybe that is what they hate.
What I think they hate is that yoga is supposed to be done shy of the body's limits. It is not supposed to be painful, each person should only do what they can. That makes it rather difficult to grade. And, of course, young women are not supposed to do inverted positions while the are having their period, lest stuff leak backwards and cause endometriosis ().

Personally, I think it might be worth trying yoga, tai chi and other forms of low-impact physical activity in the classroom, concurrent with academics. Kids would probably be more receptive to learning in such an environment.
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Judgmental bitch. Get the insult right, darling.
This changes everything
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What I think they hate is that yoga is supposed to be done shy of the body's limits. It is not supposed to be painful, each person should only do what they can. That makes it rather difficult to grade. And, of course, young women are not supposed to do inverted positions while the are having their period, lest stuff leak backwards and cause endometriosis ().

Personally, I think it might be worth trying yoga, tai chi and other forms of low-impact physical activity in the classroom, concurrent with academics. Kids would probably be more receptive to learning in such an environment.
I don't know on that one. I get you on yoga form. I was referring to lifting before when it came to form. I think when it came to that, the emphasis was completely wrong. Strength training isn't a bad thing at all. The same goes for Yoga. In both situations they need to be taught properly. I have no idea how your suggestion would work out. It's interesting in that sitting for hours doesn't really make kids more receptive to anything.
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