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Old Sep 14, 2005, 12:04 PM   #1
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Video Icons in iTunes 5 Spawns Speculation

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An Ars journal article points to new "Gift Video", "Buy Video", and "Add Video" icons found in the most recent release of iTunes 5.

The article blurb points to this as definitive evidence that Apple is planning a "Video Store".

More likely, these icons will be used to sell Music Videos as previously reported in July. At that time, the Wall Street Journal reported that Apple was seeking to license music videos to sell through the iTunes Music Store. The songs were expected to cost $1.99 a piece.

Apple has already started bundling music videos with some songs as far back as May of this year.


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Old Sep 14, 2005, 12:08 PM   #2
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pretty cool...

but i'm still waiting for the "buy full length feature film in high definition" icon
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Old Sep 14, 2005, 12:08 PM   #3
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Music vids are ok, but

I really hope for movie downloads soon.
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Old Sep 14, 2005, 12:08 PM   #4
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cool, and what about a iTunes Global Music Store?
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Old Sep 14, 2005, 12:10 PM   #5
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As much as I don't see as much use for it as a song, this might work. in the end it's the song people want. I can see throwing some parties with the music videos playing on top of the songs. I'm quite sure this will not average 60 music videos per person...
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Sounds more like downloadable music videos.

Apple should release a bittorrent-like iTunes protocol for handling news clips, movies and video talkshow podcasts.
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Old Sep 14, 2005, 12:12 PM   #7
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I also read somewhere that there was an .ogg icon, but no support for it. Same with .wma. I really hope they release this video iPod, or at least a new iPod with more disk space because I've been iPodless for 2 weeks!

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Old Sep 14, 2005, 12:15 PM   #8
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Apple really should try harder in hiding these secrets
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Old news... move along, nothing to see here.
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Old Sep 14, 2005, 12:15 PM   #10
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What about selling actual MOVIES? I wonder how much disk space a full length feature film would take encoded with H.264. Once the next gen DVD Players are in full swing it would be easy to burn a purchased H.264 movie to disk to play on your dvd player.
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Old Sep 14, 2005, 12:17 PM   #11
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What good does it do to sell music videos without the ability to watch them? iPod AV is coming. Probably next year.
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Old Sep 14, 2005, 12:18 PM   #12
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Apple may now put those new Xserves to work. I still can't imagine downloading full length movies in HD over the internet connections that most people have.
Music videos are cool thing to have, so far I have about 5GB of them in iTunes.
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What about selling actual MOVIES? I wonder how much disk space a full length feature film would take encoded with H.264. Once the next gen DVD Players are in full swing it would be easy to burn a purchased H.264 movie to disk to play on your dvd player.

Anyone know how much space a full lenght movie would take up encoded in H.264 ?
And is it fair to assume that is the likely form (H.264) ?
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Cool on the videos - I remember the advent of VCDs in the 80s, and there were even a couple proprietary formats that I don't think will play on any machine today. They were cool: U2, Madonna, and a few others released them. Of course, at the time regular CDs were like $30, so these were like $50, but hey, if you had the $$$ you could play music videos on your very own TV without having to tape them from MTV.

Now, if Apple would only do something with the "Ogg" icon buried in iTunes as well...
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Old Sep 14, 2005, 12:26 PM   #15
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Cool Apple.com/Movies...

Anyone notice that if you go to http://www.apple.com/movies you get a forbidden message instead of a 404 (Page not found).

That is interesting...

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What about selling actual MOVIES? I wonder how much disk space a full length feature film would take encoded with H.264. Once the next gen DVD Players are in full swing it would be easy to burn a purchased H.264 movie to disk to play on your dvd player.
It would require a large amount of bandwith. Just encoded in H.264 720p the size of the files will become several gigabytes in size.
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i use handbrake to rip movies to my HD to put on my psp for those long nights on the night shift and if i just let it do its own thing, a sdandard def dvds main feature (the movie) gets squished to about 800MB and it looks no difrent to the origional on my 42" DLP HD rear projection TV.
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I also read somewhere that there was an .ogg icon, but no support for it. Same with .wma. I really hope they release this video iPod, or at least a new iPod with more disk space because I've been iPodless for 2 weeks!

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It's very late so my sarcasm detector is off but those .ogg and .wma icons have been there for ages, like iTunes 3 ages. Macworldhave an article somewhere about using iTunes and a Quicktime plugin to enable OGG playback.
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by the way its the H264 video/AAC audio .mp4 setting i use single pass 1000kbps (average) 128Kbps cbrAAC @44.1KHz
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Old Sep 14, 2005, 12:35 PM   #20
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What about selling actual MOVIES? I wonder how much disk space a full length feature film would take encoded with H.264. Once the next gen DVD Players are in full swing it would be easy to burn a purchased H.264 movie to disk to play on your dvd player.
I really don't see this happening. Why "buy" movies when you will soon be able to watch "on demand" anything you want? Besides, how is Joe Consumer going to be able to backup the terabytes of data that his out of control (HD) video collection is going to take up? This is an impossible situation for the general public, not too mention expensive. By the time cost comes down enough to handle it, video on demand will be available via cable and satellite. Trying to manage a large collection of movies and TV shows is impractcial when you can just sit down on your couch, pick the movie or show, and watch it and not have to worry about it.

Movies and music are not the same. Let's face it, have you ever been over to a friends house and seen hundreds of video cassets from their recording addiction? Do they ever watch all that crap? Granted, if they could access it quickly and easily they might, but most movies or shows you will only watch a few times. Why buy them and worry about protecting them when you could just view them on demand when you feel like it? I think Jobs knows the cable companies will undercut anything Apple would do in this area.

Besides, music is going to make Apple a very succesful company in the long run.
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Old Sep 14, 2005, 12:38 PM   #21
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when i tried to sync a video podcast (diggnation), i got a message that went something like this:

"error: transfer of [filename] could not be completed because this type of file can not be played on this type of ipod"

if that's not blatantly obvious, what is?

try synching the video cast of diggnation to your ipod, you'll get the same thing
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Anyone notice that if you go to http://www.apple.com/movies you get a forbidden message instead of a 404 (Page not found).

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VERY interesting. good catch. if you go to something like apple.com/video, you get the 404. hmm.
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Anyone notice that if you go to http://www.apple.com/movies you get a forbidden message instead of a 404 (Page not found).

yes.. interesting... i wounder if it is a placeholder for the upcoming movies...
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