Go Back   MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Nov 20, 2012, 03:01 AM   #26
ThunderSkunk
macrumors 68000
 
ThunderSkunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Durango, Co
AirPlay is pretty limited. No matter where I go I can't seem to find a suitable arrangement to actually use it.

Glad to see Google pushing forward toward full functionality in this area. Get on it Apple.

Driving Apple forward is the primary good that comes of Google being in the iPhone biz.
ThunderSkunk is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 03:08 AM   #27
rmwebs
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by iMikeT View Post
Looks like the copy machines aren't just running in Redmond these days.
Don't make yourself look so pathetic.

Also, FYI AirPlay is nothing special, it's just a streaming system these things have been around for years.

----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThunderSkunk View Post
AirPlay is pretty limited. No matter where I go I can't seem to find a suitable arrangement to actually use it.

Glad to see Google pushing forward toward full functionality in this area. Get on it Apple.

Driving Apple forward is the primary good that comes of Google being in the iPhone biz.
If recent history is anything to go by, Apple will NOT open up AirPlay, or support Googles new (and better) platform....ever.
rmwebs is offline   5 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 03:18 AM   #28
Prodo123
macrumors 68020
 
Prodo123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Why fix something that isn't broken?
__________________
MacBook Pro 15" 2.2Ghz hi-res glossy, 16GB RAM, 840 EVO 250GB, WD Blue 1TB Optibay iPhone 5 White 32GB Audiophile Photographer, videographer, audio engineer
Prodo123 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 03:20 AM   #29
Ed91
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Do I love Airplay? Yes. Do I want to be able to use such technology with devices other than Apple's? Yes. Will Android OEMs that also make Smart TVs include AirPlay over Google's solution? Probably not.

This is a war Apple can't win without opening up.
Ed91 is offline   4 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 03:27 AM   #30
Oletros
In Time-Out
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: PremiÓ de Mar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prodo123 View Post
Why fix something that isn't broken?
What is not broken?
Oletros is online now   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 03:30 AM   #31
Prodo123
macrumors 68020
 
Prodo123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oletros View Post
What is not broken?
AirPlay.
__________________
MacBook Pro 15" 2.2Ghz hi-res glossy, 16GB RAM, 840 EVO 250GB, WD Blue 1TB Optibay iPhone 5 White 32GB Audiophile Photographer, videographer, audio engineer
Prodo123 is offline   4 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 03:39 AM   #32
peewit106
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Functionality?

Quote:
Google's system would reportedly be similar, and also allow data to flow in both directions, allowing full "second-screen experiences" that could relay information back to your phone or tablet.
= adverts
peewit106 is offline   5 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 03:44 AM   #33
Oletros
In Time-Out
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: PremiÓ de Mar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prodo123 View Post
AirPlay.
Does any device apart of Apple's have Airplay?
Oletros is online now   2 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 03:49 AM   #34
smulji
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmwebs View Post
Don't make yourself look so pathetic.

Also, FYI AirPlay is nothing special, it's just a streaming system these things have been around for years.

----------



If recent history is anything to go by, Apple will NOT open up AirPlay, or support Googles new (and better) platform....ever.
They should. Communication protocols used in implementations like AirPlay, AirPrint, FaceTime, Skype, should be opened up or open-sourced. Interoperability benefits all users instead of being locked in. It's the right thing to do. And it doesn't hinder any company's ability to make profits.

Imagine of TCP/IP was kept proprietary, we probably wouldn't have the internet we know it today.
smulji is offline   3 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 03:51 AM   #35
haruhiko
macrumors 68030
 
haruhiko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by JayJayAbels View Post
Try the iPhone 5 ready app called "Jasmine". It's free and awesome.
refer to my point 4)
__________________
rMBP'12 15" 2.3GHz, iPad Air 2 LTE 64GB, iPhone 6 Plus Space Grey 128GB
iMac'08/24",Mini'09,MBP'10/15",MBA'11/13". iPhone 5s,5,4S,4,3GS. iPT: 3,1. iPad: Air,4,3,2,1,Mini2. ATV'12,'11, AEBS'09,TC'13.
haruhiko is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 03:53 AM   #36
JoEw
macrumors 6502a
 
JoEw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Apple doesn't have to open to win, apple just needs to strengthen their already strong ecosystem, for people like me who like the ecosystem it will only make us more dedicated to it. Apple TV, iPad, iPhone, Mac all work seamlessly for the most part. Of course we should expect more features to come in the future and I believe we will. The rumors show apple definitely has something big up their sleeve.
__________________
Late 2009 27" iMac, i5, iPhone 6 128GB Black, 13" Macbook Air, i7, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, TV 3rd Generation iPod Nano iPad Air 32GB White
JoEw is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 03:54 AM   #37
ArchAndroid
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: London, England
Quote:
Originally Posted by iMikeT View Post
Looks like the copy machines aren't just running in Redmond these days.
Google aren't copying Apple, they're bettering them. Look at the requirements for Apple's Airplay:

Apple iOS Device + Apple TV (One-to-One)

Google requirements look like being:

Android Device/Google TV/iOS Devices? + any HDMI-enabled display (Many-to-Many).

With Apple's implementation, if I were at a friend's house wanting to stream something to their TV, as well as having my phone, I would need them to have an Apple TV.

Google's iteration just requires a phone and a HDMI screen, much simpler.
ArchAndroid is offline   5 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 03:58 AM   #38
everything-i
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: London, UK
Quote:
Originally Posted by Truffy View Post
But, for the love of the children, why? There's a frikkin' standard already, why not use it? Or are Google as self-obsessed and retarded as Apple?
Because the standard doesn't allow google to capture data about what your watching and beem it back to a google server

And force you to look at lots of adverts )

Last edited by everything-i; Nov 20, 2012 at 04:05 AM.
everything-i is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 04:00 AM   #39
roadbloc
macrumors 604
 
roadbloc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: UK
Do people actually use AirPlay. I used it a little for music with my AirPort Express, but I soon figured that using a cable was much MUCH easier.
__________________
roadbloc is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 04:00 AM   #40
DaveMcM76
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: UK
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oletros View Post
Does any device apart of Apple's have Airplay?
Not a device as such, but the current release of XBMC has some Airplay support built in so any mac / pc / linux box can become an Airplay target device - http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=AirPlay. It's by no means feature complete but it is being improved all the time.

I've not used it all that much as I have 2 Apple TVs but the few times I've tried it it's worked pretty well.
DaveMcM76 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 04:01 AM   #41
Drunken Master
macrumors 65816
 
Drunken Master's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by haruhiko View Post
I deleted the Google YouTube app because:

1) No support for iPhone 5;
2) confusing UI;
3) when you enter any www.youtube.com video URL in Safari it directs you to the app;
4) there is an awesome app called Jasmine.
What I don't like the YouTube app is I can't play a video of the song and then leave the app and go do something else on my phone and keep the song playing in the background.

Plus no AirPlay and no option to resize/crop videos.

Quote:
Originally Posted by roadbloc View Post
Do people actually use AirPlay. I used it a little for music with my AirPort Express, but I soon figured that using a cable was much MUCH easier.
Searching for YouTube videos on the AppleTV is not fun.

At all.

Much easier to find them on an iDevice and then use AirPlay to stream it to the HDTV.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oletros View Post
Does any device apart of Apple's have Airplay?
http://www.cultofmac.com/201671/get-...e-tv-knockoff/



"Xiaomi Box looks pretty similar to an Apple TV, it’s cheaper than an Apple TV, it even comes with the ability to use Apple’s AirPlay protocol like an Apple TV, but it only costs $64.

Read more at http://www.cultofmac.com/201671/get-...mCXSUTdm6Zj.99 "

Last edited by Drunken Master; Nov 20, 2012 at 04:10 AM.
Drunken Master is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 04:15 AM   #42
APlotdevice
macrumors 68020
 
APlotdevice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueParadox View Post
As long as I can watch TANGLED without a problem then count me in.

But seriously, how about a better desktop mirroring app to get around Apple's restrictions within 10.8 of mid-last Macs and onwards. Third party app 'Parrot' ain't so good.
The reason Parrot ain't so good is because it relies on software-based encoding. AirPlay officially uses hardware-based encoding, and thus is limited to Macs with a H.264 encoder built in to their GPUs. Any streaming solution for older Macs would have the same limitation as Parrot.
__________________
There is something deeply wrong with a society more offended by breasts than by entrails.
Pebble SmartWatch | iPhone 5c | 11" Macbook Air '13 | HTPC | TV | Numerous Old Consoles
APlotdevice is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 04:16 AM   #43
MacDav
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Streaming from TV to iPad is a good feature.
MacDav is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 04:16 AM   #44
d0vr
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by Truffy View Post
But, for the love of the children, why? There's a frikkin' standard already, why not use it? Or are Google as self-obsessed and retarded as Apple?
Do you not understand the term 'standard' or do you know something I don't know? AirPlay is not a standard, it's proprietary. DLNA is not two ways. It just allows you to push a stream. Consider being DLNA compatible as similar to how USB 3.0 devices are backwards compatible. It's a good thing. The fact it is open will rock!!

Go google go. I just hope they get it right. -crosses all fingers and toes-
d0vr is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 04:20 AM   #45
Oletros
In Time-Out
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: PremiÓ de Mar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunken Master View Post
Yap, but this and the XBMC implementation are reverse engineered things and not licensed by Apple.
Oletros is online now   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 04:27 AM   #46
Slim02
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...eivers/Airplay

http://usa.denon.com/us/product/page...eivers(denonna)
There are Airplay devices that are not made by Apple but licensed by Apple....
__________________
PowerMac G4 24" 2.93Ghz iMac iPhone 4S (32GB) Win7 Laptop 4thGen iPod Touch (32GB)
Slim02 is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 04:28 AM   #47
mentaluproar
macrumors 68000
 
mentaluproar's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ohio, USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueParadox View Post
But seriously, how about a better desktop mirroring app to get around Apple's restrictions within 10.8 of mid-last Macs and onwards. Third party app 'Parrot' ain't so good.
It is impossible to do that efficiently in software. The new hardware has been built to handle this task. It's a matter of work smarter, not harder. Stop whining.
__________________
Powered by OSX 10.9 Ocelot
Will someone please make a safari extension that gives us back the downvote button?
mentaluproar is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 04:42 AM   #48
APlotdevice
macrumors 68020
 
APlotdevice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim02 View Post
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...eivers/Airplay

http://usa.denon.com/us/product/page...eivers(denonna)
There are Airplay devices that are not made by Apple but licensed by Apple....
To be clear Apple has licensed third parties to receive AirPlay audio (previously called AirTunes). There are no officially licensed third party products that will receive AirPlay video.
__________________
There is something deeply wrong with a society more offended by breasts than by entrails.
Pebble SmartWatch | iPhone 5c | 11" Macbook Air '13 | HTPC | TV | Numerous Old Consoles
APlotdevice is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 04:47 AM   #49
ifij775
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Boston, MA
Another me-too product from Google that's "open", who is driving innovation?
ifij775 is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20, 2012, 04:50 AM   #50
Mr.damien
Guest
 
I think that Apple should push on their airport stuff, an ad blocker directly inside them like the adless router kickstarter project.

Then we will see who will laugh with network stuff blocking all the google ads (revenue)
  4 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Google Launches 'Google Play Movies & TV' App, iOS Chromecast Users Gain Alternative to iTunes MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 130 Mar 15, 2014 11:33 PM
Airplay lag, alternative way to set up DrPips Apple TV and Home Theater 8 Jan 25, 2014 11:14 PM
iTunes alternative that can output through AirPlay? CoffeeMonkey Mac Applications and Mac App Store 6 Jan 8, 2014 05:19 PM
AirPlay or alternative rsnapeuk Apple TV and Home Theater 5 Oct 3, 2012 06:17 PM
can't people just use Maps+ as a google map alternative to apple maps? canonwire iOS 6 10 Sep 28, 2012 10:24 PM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:28 PM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC