Apple Television, iPad Mini, MacBook Air Speculation for 2013 - Page 2

Yvan256 · Nov 20, 2012, 09:57 AM

I don't know or care if Apple does make real

TV display or not, all I know is that it would be pretty stupid to expect people to drop their perfectly good current TV set to buy one made by Apple.

I still think the current little 99$

TV box is the way to go. I've got mine connected to a 23" computer display, the whole setup costs around 250$ with taxes.

zerolight · Nov 20, 2012, 09:57 AM

Why do people expect an iPad designed with skinny borders like the mini? The borders are there to give you someplace to hold the thing whilst using it. They justified their removal on the mini by suggesting it's small enough to hold in your palm one handed. Not true of the bigger iPad. I just can't seem them doing away with usability in favor of cosmetics.

kobyh15 · Nov 20, 2012, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbytallant

Retina Macbook Air won't happen next year.

Agreed. If it happens then I would be extremely surprised. They're going to have to come up with some better battery tech.

cmChimera · Nov 20, 2012, 09:58 AM

I can see the Apple television set in 2013, the "5s", and the Apple TV update. I disagree with the iPad mini with retina display in March and it's later spec bump. I see the quick update to iPad 4 as an anomaly. I think we'll see a return to close to yearly updates for both products. I fully expect a Mini with retina display, just not in March. Possibly closer to September. Also I wonder about a retina Air. I'm not even positive it's possible.

pnoyblazed · Nov 20, 2012, 09:58 AM

Apple Television is interesting... I can already see the 'problems' that will plague that product *sigh*

MacRumorUser · Nov 20, 2012, 09:59 AM

Quote:

- March 2013: iPad Mini with Retina display, update the little Apple TV box, allowing to do accept apps from developers, and some sort of iTunes radio product.

But we know from the suppliers that are building the Retina displays that they are not ready till Q3 2013 with production for Q4 2013.

We had this on the front-page news a few weeks back.

Yet this nonsense is still trotted out

Tech analysts predictions are about as reliable as Mystic Meg...

On top of that

Quote:

- September 2013: iPhone 5S, a "modest upgrade" from the iPhone 5. The iPad Mini gets a specs bump, and we get a new iPad, which is totally redesigned to look more like the iPhone 5 and iPad Mini.

so 6 months later again they predict them to release another....

Yeah... right...... whatever...........

And yet this then contradicts the story you ran the other day of an accelerated summer release for the iPhone 5S .... :/

Tech analysts. The bane of human existence.

JAT · Nov 20, 2012, 09:59 AM

Apple doesn't even have this specific a timetable for new product releases for 2013. Esp not in this crazy supplier climate.

dashiel · Nov 20, 2012, 10:00 AM

Munster is envious of the stopped clock. Seriously how many years has Munster been predicting a television now – and people listen to this guy for investing advice.

Medinarem · Nov 20, 2012, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerolight

Why do people expect an iPad designed with skinny borders like the mini? The borders are there to give you someplace to hold the thing whilst using it. They justified their removal on the mini by suggesting it's small enough to hold in your palm one handed. Not true of the bigger iPad. I just can't seem them doing away with usability in favor of cosmetics.

Totally agree the black border around the ipad allows you to hold the ipad with one had (gripping it) and use it with the other. If this was redesigned then I would constantly cover a portion of the screen and constantly activate the touch screen display.

Cougarcat · Nov 20, 2012, 10:03 AM

Munster's almost always wrong. A MBA with retina would have abysmal battery life. Maybe Haswell will make this possible, but I doubt it. I think the MBA will be the last Mac to get upgraded. And regarding the Apple TV: he's predicted this every year. Sooner or later he'll be right.

The only thing that sounds plausible is iOS 7 /10.9, but those are a given.

urkel · 10:10 AM

Articles citing Gene Munster's "predictions" should also list the numerous times he was flat out wrong.

In fact, every "analyst" name should be followed by a rating like Rotten Tomatoes because most of the time these people make huge predictions that the media latches on to, and then have zero accountability for when they're wrong.

So I'd love to see rotten tomatoes analyst scoring it go like this:
Apple TV is predicted to come out in April by Gene Munster (7%) which was confirmed up by John Johnson (0%) from ProAnalysis Corp (0%). Walt Mossberg (81%) claims it doesnt exist and calls out Munster for predicting the same thing every year.

cmChimera · Nov 20, 2012, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yvan256

I don't know or care if Apple does make real

TV display or not, all I know is that it would be pretty stupid to expect people to drop their perfectly good current TV set to buy one made by Apple.

People drop perfectly good current devices for new perfectly good devices all the time. I dropped my perfectly good Macbook Pro for one with a retina display. I don't think it's that outrageous that if Apple makes a compelling product, people will buy it.

ayala421 · Nov 20, 2012, 10:06 AM

Pretty much shows how predictable Apple's minor spec bump has become...

womble2k2 · Nov 20, 2012, 10:06 AM

Two iPad mini updates in one year would be a surprise. Surely more processing power would be required to drive retina display. Is he saying first change would simple add the screen but keep internals? I.e, slower overall due to the need to drive 4x the number of pixels and shorter battery life due to the increased power drain.

It currently reads like a wish list to me.

I also think Apple will focus on services during 2013, to drive hardware sales, I.e., improved iCloud functionality, iTunes Match lite (free service for iTunes purchased content only), improved Maps on all platforms, Siri out of beta, iMessage / FaceTime improved and possibly merged, a unique way of accessing OS X desktop from iDevices.

I do also think Apple will launch something totally unexpected next year, possibly in the automotive space.

Finally, I think Apple has focussed on the consumer market for the past 4 or 5 years, but I think now they have a wider halo in that space, they will start to focus attention onto Pro/corporate space. Don't be surprised if they enter the server market again, but with an emphasis on cloud, messaging and simple business tool creation (apps), I.e., Next computing roots.

gregwyattjr · Nov 20, 2012, 10:06 AM

I just want iTunes 11...

AppleScruff1 · Nov 20, 2012, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tann

I don't believe we will see a retina mini THAT soon followed by another mini update later that year??

Apple may do this to blast the competition. The tech world changes fast and maybe Apple realizes it will be to their advantage to have shorter update cycles.

DotCom2 · Nov 20, 2012, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iapplelove

Seriously why buy an iPad 4. The next iPad thinner lighter full sized with the backing like the newer idevices is what we all have been waiting for.

*THIS*
I just want to know when the iPad 5 will be coming out!

March/April?
Or not until next fall?
HHHHHHHHHHHHH

FooMan2011 · Nov 20, 2012, 10:08 AM

I'm actually excited for an iPad that looks like the mini or iP5. Definitely wont be getting the iP5S if its like the 4 to 4S upgrade. Siri wasn't worth wasting an upgrade... I almost never use that feature.

PracticalMac · Nov 20, 2012, 10:09 AM

doubt Mini Retina so soon.

May soonest.

Oletros · Nov 20, 2012, 10:10 AM

Gene Munster, nuff said

super tomtendo · Nov 20, 2012, 10:11 AM

*NEWS ALERTS*

APPLE WILL BE RELEASING PRODUCTS IN 2013!!!!

:rolls eyes:

Padraig · Nov 20, 2012, 10:12 AM

How many years has Munster been predicting the arrival of an Apple TV now Arn? This guys job is to drive AAPL, which Piper Jaffray actively trade. Isn't it time you stop helping them make money?

Jman13 · Nov 20, 2012, 10:14 AM

If they update the mini to retina in March, EVERYONE will be pissed. It's one thing to have a spec bump quickly (let's face it, going from a 3rd gen to a 4th gen iPad isn't really that big of a deal), but doing a major screen update just 5 months after you first release a product? That's just screwing people. Not only will it make everyone who just bought a mini feel like they were taken, but it would KILL resale value of the device. I mean, you'd have a non-retina product that was only out for 5 months. No one will buy that second hand.

I'm getting a mini for Christmas...I'm excited by it, and I don't think the screen will be that big of a deal. If they put the A6 in it in March, I won't really care. No problem. If they put a retina display in it in March, I'll be a bit miffed, as I'd have waited the 3 months... A retina mini next year? Yeah, I expect that, and I'm OK having the non-retina version for a year.

Elbon · Nov 20, 2012, 10:14 AM

No one is going to pay $1,500 - $2,000 for the privilege of owning an Apple-branded TV. I love Apple products, but even I'm not that crazy.

zbarvian · Nov 20, 2012, 10:14 AM

Retina Display iPad Mini in March, with spec bumps later? Yeah, right.

Nov 20, 2012, 09:57 AM	#26
Yvan256 macrumors 601 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada	I don't know or care if Apple does make real TV display or not, all I know is that it would be pretty stupid to expect people to drop their perfectly good current TV set to buy one made by Apple. I still think the current little 99$ TV box is the way to go. I've got mine connected to a 23" computer display, the whole setup costs around 250$ with taxes. __________________ The first 90% of the code accounts for the first 90% of the development time. The remaining 10% of the code accounts for the other 90% of the development time. -Tom Cargill, Bell Labs.
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Nov 20, 2012, 09:59 AM	#32
JAT macrumors 601 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Mpls, MN	Apple doesn't even have this specific a timetable for new product releases for 2013. Esp not in this crazy supplier climate. __________________ -- Spiky
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Nov 20, 2012, 10:03 AM	#36
urkel macrumors 68000 Join Date: Nov 2008	Articles citing Gene Munster's "predictions" should also list the numerous times he was flat out wrong. In fact, every "analyst" name should be followed by a rating like Rotten Tomatoes because most of the time these people make huge predictions that the media latches on to, and then have zero accountability for when they're wrong. So I'd love to see rotten tomatoes analyst scoring it go like this: Apple TV is predicted to come out in April by Gene Munster (7%) which was confirmed up by John Johnson (0%) from ProAnalysis Corp (0%). Walt Mossberg (81%) claims it doesnt exist and calls out Munster for predicting the same thing every year. Last edited by urkel; Nov 20, 2012 at 10:10 AM.
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Nov 20, 2012, 10:06 AM	#38
ayala421 macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2010	iPhone 5s Pretty much shows how predictable Apple's minor spec bump has become... __________________ 2011 iMac - Quad Core i7 - 27" - 16GB RAM
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Nov 20, 2012, 10:06 AM	#40
gregwyattjr macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2008	I just want iTunes 11... __________________ I'm happy, hope you're happy too
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Nov 20, 2012, 09:57 AM	#27
zerolight macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Glasgow	Why do people expect an iPad designed with skinny borders like the mini? The borders are there to give you someplace to hold the thing whilst using it. They justified their removal on the mini by suggesting it's small enough to hold in your palm one handed. Not true of the bigger iPad. I just can't seem them doing away with usability in favor of cosmetics.
	3

Nov 20, 2012, 09:58 AM	#29
cmChimera macrumors 65816 Join Date: Feb 2010	I can see the Apple television set in 2013, the "5s", and the Apple TV update. I disagree with the iPad mini with retina display in March and it's later spec bump. I see the quick update to iPad 4 as an anomaly. I think we'll see a return to close to yearly updates for both products. I fully expect a Mini with retina display, just not in March. Possibly closer to September. Also I wonder about a retina Air. I'm not even positive it's possible.
	0

Nov 20, 2012, 09:58 AM	#30
pnoyblazed macrumors 6502 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Manhattan	Apple Television is interesting... I can already see the 'problems' that will plague that product sigh
	0

Nov 20, 2012, 10:00 AM	#33
dashiel macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2003	Munster is envious of the stopped clock. Seriously how many years has Munster been predicting a television now – and people listen to this guy for investing advice.
	2

Nov 20, 2012, 10:03 AM	#35
Cougarcat macrumors 601 Join Date: Sep 2003	Munster's almost always wrong. A MBA with retina would have abysmal battery life. Maybe Haswell will make this possible, but I doubt it. I think the MBA will be the last Mac to get upgraded. And regarding the Apple TV: he's predicted this every year. Sooner or later he'll be right. The only thing that sounds plausible is iOS 7 /10.9, but those are a given.
	0

Nov 20, 2012, 10:06 AM	#39
womble2k2 macrumors regular Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: London	Two iPad mini updates in one year would be a surprise. Surely more processing power would be required to drive retina display. Is he saying first change would simple add the screen but keep internals? I.e, slower overall due to the need to drive 4x the number of pixels and shorter battery life due to the increased power drain. It currently reads like a wish list to me. I also think Apple will focus on services during 2013, to drive hardware sales, I.e., improved iCloud functionality, iTunes Match lite (free service for iTunes purchased content only), improved Maps on all platforms, Siri out of beta, iMessage / FaceTime improved and possibly merged, a unique way of accessing OS X desktop from iDevices. I do also think Apple will launch something totally unexpected next year, possibly in the automotive space. Finally, I think Apple has focussed on the consumer market for the past 4 or 5 years, but I think now they have a wider halo in that space, they will start to focus attention onto Pro/corporate space. Don't be surprised if they enter the server market again, but with an emphasis on cloud, messaging and simple business tool creation (apps), I.e., Next computing roots.
	0

Nov 20, 2012, 10:08 AM	#43
FooMan2011 macrumors member Join Date: Nov 2012	I'm actually excited for an iPad that looks like the mini or iP5. Definitely wont be getting the iP5S if its like the 4 to 4S upgrade. Siri wasn't worth wasting an upgrade... I almost never use that feature.
	0

Nov 20, 2012, 10:09 AM	#44
PracticalMac macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jan 2009	doubt Mini Retina so soon. May soonest. __________________ FireWire 1394 Intelligent network guaranteed data transfer, 1500mA power, Ethernet compatible Read: 160 files, 650MB total, *FW400 70% faster* then USB2** Write: 160 files, 650MB total, FW400 48% faster
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Nov 20, 2012, 10:10 AM	#45
Oletros macrumors 68040 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Premià de Mar	Gene Munster, nuff said
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Nov 20, 2012, 10:11 AM	#46
super tomtendo macrumors 6502 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: FL	NEWS ALERTS APPLE WILL BE RELEASING PRODUCTS IN 2013!!!! :rolls eyes: __________________ 15" MBP (June '07-Nov '10), 2.2 GHz Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM, 120GB HD 11.6" MacBook Air (Nov '10-Present), 1.4GHz Core 2 Duo, 64GB SSD, 4GB RAM ; iPad 1 ; iPad 3 ; iPhone 4 16GB (Verizon) ; Apple TV2
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Nov 20, 2012, 10:12 AM	#47
Padraig macrumors 6502a Join Date: Dec 2005	How many years has Munster been predicting the arrival of an Apple TV now Arn? This guys job is to drive AAPL, which Piper Jaffray actively trade. Isn't it time you stop helping them make money?
	1

Nov 20, 2012, 10:14 AM	#48
Jman13 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Columbus, OH	If they update the mini to retina in March, EVERYONE will be pissed. It's one thing to have a spec bump quickly (let's face it, going from a 3rd gen to a 4th gen iPad isn't really that big of a deal), but doing a major screen update just 5 months after you first release a product? That's just screwing people. Not only will it make everyone who just bought a mini feel like they were taken, but it would KILL resale value of the device. I mean, you'd have a non-retina product that was only out for 5 months. No one will buy that second hand. I'm getting a mini for Christmas...I'm excited by it, and I don't think the screen will be that big of a deal. If they put the A6 in it in March, I won't really care. No problem. If they put a retina display in it in March, I'll be a bit miffed, as I'd have waited the 3 months... A retina mini next year? Yeah, I expect that, and I'm OK having the non-retina version for a year.
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Nov 20, 2012, 10:14 AM	#49
Elbon macrumors member Join Date: Jan 2008	No one is going to pay $1,500 - $2,000 for the privilege of owning an Apple-branded TV. I love Apple products, but even I'm not that crazy.
	1

Nov 20, 2012, 10:14 AM	#50
zbarvian macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jul 2011	Retina Display iPad Mini in March, with spec bumps later? Yeah, right.
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