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Old Nov 21, 2012, 02:19 AM   #1
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Will iPhone 5 improve 3G speeds?

I use my phone's unlimited 3G as my internet. I'm in Australia, and I can't find any true unlimited LTE plans (I use about 20 gigs a month), and the speed over 3G is a bit slow. Will a iPhone 5 make 3G faster over my 4?
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Old Nov 21, 2012, 02:25 AM   #2
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I use my phone's unlimited 3G as my internet. I'm in Australia, and I can't find any true unlimited LTE plans (I use about 20 gigs a month), and the speed over 3G is a bit slow. Will a iPhone 5 make 3G faster over my 4?
depends on if your carrier supports speeds greater than 7.2mbps on its hspa network. If yes, then yes the iphone 5 will give you access to the faster speeds
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Old Nov 21, 2012, 02:26 AM   #3
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probably not. 55 miles per hour is 55 miles per hour whether your driving in a minivan or an F1 car. network speeds are mostly going to depend on your carriers network and its physical limitations, not the phones hardware. at least, not in the case of the most recent iphones. the 4 should be just as fast as the 5's 3G speeds.
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Old Nov 21, 2012, 06:40 AM   #4
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probably not. 55 miles per hour is 55 miles per hour whether your driving in a minivan or an F1 car. network speeds are mostly going to depend on your carriers network and its physical limitations, not the phones hardware. at least, not in the case of the most recent iphones. the 4 should be just as fast as the 5's 3G speeds.
Incorrect to an extent. I can tell you for certain that my 4 to 4S to 5 all see different speeds on ATT due to the antenna range capabilities.
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Old Nov 21, 2012, 07:01 AM   #5
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I use my phone's unlimited 3G as my internet. I'm in Australia, and I can't find any true unlimited LTE plans (I use about 20 gigs a month), and the speed over 3G is a bit slow. Will a iPhone 5 make 3G faster over my 4?
Who are you with? And where did you find unlimited 3G? I'm in Australia too.
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Old Nov 21, 2012, 07:29 AM   #6
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Incorrect to an extent. I can tell you for certain that my 4 to 4S to 5 all see different speeds on ATT due to the antenna range capabilities.
How different? Except in marginal cases I wouldn't expcect a drastic improvement simply due to better signal.

Best way for the OP to answer is to get the 5 and try it out before the return window closes. I wouldn't expect drastic improvements, if any.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 10:52 AM   #7
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How different? Except in marginal cases I wouldn't expcect a drastic improvement simply due to better signal.

Best way for the OP to answer is to get the 5 and try it out before the return window closes. I wouldn't expect drastic improvements, if any.
Each iphone release they change the antenna to work on different ranges.
My 4 usually sees like 1.5-2mb. my 4s usually sees like 3-5mb and my 5 was seeing 7-12mb speeds all in the same spot side by side.

Again this is on ATT. not sure if the other providers run HSPA+ in different ranges like ATT does
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 11:22 AM   #8
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Really it just depends on your carrier.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 11:42 AM   #9
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Really it just depends on your carrier.
Same goes with wifi, sort of. My previous iphone 4 and razr maxx did not support 5 Ghz band, so my fastest speeds on my home wifi were around 25 Mbs. My iPhone 5 with exact same router has DL speeds near 60 Mbs which is the max speed from my provider.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 03:26 PM   #10
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I have definitely seen an increase. Max speed I got on my 4S was 6Mbps, with my 5 I have hit 19.86Mbps on 3G network
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 03:30 PM   #11
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I use my phone's unlimited 3G as my internet. I'm in Australia, and I can't find any true unlimited LTE plans (I use about 20 gigs a month), and the speed over 3G is a bit slow. Will a iPhone 5 make 3G faster over my 4?
Yes, the iPhone 5 is definitely faster than an iPhone 4 on 3G networks. First of all: it just supports higher 3G supports. The second thing is the CPU: as you probably know the iPhone 5 has a highly superior CPU compared to the iPhone 4 (and iPhone 4S) and this also helps with loading pages.

As long as your carrier supports these high dataspeeds, than you'll see an increase in speed.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 03:38 PM   #12
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I hit 14MBit on 3G the other day. On my Galaxy S3 it was around 4Mbit at most and the iPhone topped out at 3Mbit.

Oddly, the speed increased when I disabled LTE in the options. It's like if you cannot get it, it does limit you.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 03:48 PM   #13
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No. How can a device make your 3G network faster?
Unless your network support HSPA+ 3G access then your iphone 5 will pull faster data than your old iphone 4.
Call your carrier to find out if they have updated their 3G network in your local area to hpsa+. They should be able to tell you.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 06:12 PM   #14
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All 3 of our carriers and their resellers in Australia support HSPA+ 21, with two of these carriers (Telstra and Vodafone) supporting DC-HSPA+ (HSPA+ 42). If you are with one of these two and in an area with DC-HSPA+, then you will see a dramatic increase in speed. If you aren't in an area with DC-HSPA+, or are with Optus, then you will still see a speed increase, just not as great.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 06:18 PM   #15
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If you mean loading webpages, then yes. The iPhone 5 loads web pages twice as fast as the iPhone 4S! I think it should be loading web pages then ~4 times faster than the iPhone 4. I have definitely noticed a difference since i got rid of my iPhone 4S and got the 5.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 06:20 PM   #16
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How different? Except in marginal cases I wouldn't expcect a drastic improvement simply due to better signal.

Best way for the OP to answer is to get the 5 and try it out before the return window closes. I wouldn't expect drastic improvements, if any.
Actually, it depends on the network. For some networks, there has been a huge increase:

Network: Three UK
iPhone 4S: Consistently around 6-7mbps (HSPA+)
iPhone 5: Consistently 14-18mbps (DC-HSPA+)

Same time, same location.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 06:36 PM   #17
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How can a device make your 3G network faster?
Better designed antennas and other RF components can make a noticeable difference, such as by doing a better job of working around interference or making the most out of a weak signal.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 06:41 PM   #18
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Better designed antennas and other RF components can make a noticeable difference, such as by doing a better job of working around interference or making the most out of a weak signal.
Yes that will make your reception better but obviously it cannot Improve your network.
If the carrier sucks and its slow then you can put all the high end antennas you want on a new cellphone.
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Old Nov 25, 2012, 05:14 AM   #19
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I have seen a huge increase in speed on Swisscom network, double if not more.

With my 4S I would get constant 7, max 10-11 Mbit/s with HSPA.
With my 5 I can get up to 21 Mbit/s with DC-HSPA. That's pretty amazing.
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I have seen a huge increase in speed on Swisscom network, double if not more.

With my 4S I would get constant 7, max 10-11 Mbit/s with HSPA.
With my 5 I can get up to 21 Mbit/s with DC-HSPA. That's pretty amazing.
Exactly my feelings too!

For those of us who don't have widespread LTE, DC-HSPA+ capability is a really nice upgrade.
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How different? Except in marginal cases I wouldn't expcect a drastic improvement simply due to better signal.

Best way for the OP to answer is to get the 5 and try it out before the return window closes. I wouldn't expect drastic improvements, if any.
Well considering the iPhone 5 supports dual carrier hspa and the 4 only supports 7.2mb/s HSPDA.

If the network supports it, the iPhone 5 will be much faster.
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Old Nov 25, 2012, 09:07 AM   #22
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My T-Mobile UK speeds have gone from around 3.4mb down and 0.6mb up to 12mb down in urban areas so it has improved drastically for me.
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Yes that will make your reception better but obviously it cannot Improve your network.
If the carrier sucks and its slow then you can put all the high end antennas you want on a new cellphone.
You're correct that a handset can't overcome network deficiencies such as undersized backhaul. But a handset can enable the network to provide better coverage and capacity.

For example, when the handset has a great front end, the network doesn't have to use as much power to maintain a connection. Lower power means less interference, which saps capacity. In the case of CDMA-based networks, when a cell site uses a lot of power, its coverage area shrinks, a phenomenon known as cell breathing. So if that cell site is serving a lot of devices with good front ends, then coverage holes are less likely.

These are examples of why operators have months-long certification tests before allowing a new model of phone, tablet, modem, etc. onto their network. A gold-plated network can't overcome an installed base of crappy devices.
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