Register FAQ / Rules Forum Spy Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   MacRumors Forums > iPhone, iPod and iPad > iPad

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Nov 23, 2012, 08:51 AM   #26
chleuasme
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by syd430 View Post
The mini actually optimises the thumb keyboard to cover the same surface area as the full sized ipad, as evidenced by the smaller gap separating each side of the split.
Really? Are you sure it's not simply a 19% physically smaller gap? What about the size of the keys?
Interesting, if it is...


Edit: ok, after googling a bit, it seems to be true. Thanks for the info.
Very interesting ...

Last edited by chleuasme; Nov 23, 2012 at 09:01 AM.
chleuasme is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 23, 2012, 08:54 AM   #27
ddaniel
Thread Starter
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by syd430 View Post
What's wrong with using the thumb keyboard on the full- sized ipad?

Holding the device in potrait mode with both hands and with no case or covers attached, I can type just as fast using the thumb keyboard (moved 1/3 up the screen) than on the mini.

The mini actually optimises the thumb keyboard to cover the same surface area as the full sized ipad, as evidenced by the smaller gap separating each side of the split.
Obviously this is somewhat subjective, but I don't like the split keyboard, and the larger bezel makes reaching the keys more difficult. Obviously text input is still possible on the full sized, but it is (IMO) far easier on the mini, and I find I can thumb type much faster, on par with my Iphone.

Last edited by ddaniel; Nov 23, 2012 at 08:21 PM.
ddaniel is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 23, 2012, 11:17 AM   #28
AdonisSMU
macrumors 68000
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Thumb typing is so much faster on the mini.
AdonisSMU is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 23, 2012, 11:18 AM   #29
CandyNJ66
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by pommie82 View Post
Mini great for everything except movies period!!!!!!!
Mini is a little small to be watching movies on.
I watch movies from Netflix, Crackle plus Streamimg websites, and I love seeing them on my Mini's screen!

The almost 8' screen is perfect for me but I can understand why the extra space is better for some
__________________
Ipad Air Space Grey 64GB Wifi
CandyNJ66 is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 23, 2012, 11:38 AM   #30
bgro
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: South Florida
Nice review. I'm in the iPad 4 boat but I did briefly own a mini before moving to the 4. Holding the device is a joy compared to the 4 but I personally prefer the larger, retina screen. Think all this talk of mini being non retina is overblown. I'll agree that text is much much smoother on the 4 but other than that I don't think it's a deal breaker for the mini not to have it. Depending on your usage it is an excellent device. For my usages however, the 4 is better. I think well written reviews like this are helpful because people use their iPads for different things so it's nice to read different perspectives.
bgro is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 23, 2012, 08:22 PM   #31
ddaniel
Thread Starter
macrumors newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by CandyNJ66 View Post
I watch movies from Netflix, Crackle plus Streamimg websites, and I love seeing them on my Mini's screen!

The almost 8' screen is perfect for me but I can understand why the extra space is better for some
Agreed. This is another complaint about the mini I've seen often (screen is too small for movies), but I think they look rather good.

Games as well
ddaniel is offline   3 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 23, 2012, 09:48 PM   #32
328xi
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Nice review. Gaming is so much easier with the mini as well.
328xi is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2012, 12:24 AM   #33
shadowjeff
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
In a similar situation as you. Even right now with both devices on hand I still can't decide. Yesterday was the ipad mini, today was the ipad 4, now back to wanting to keep the mini. I really should settle on one and return the other.
shadowjeff is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2012, 12:27 AM   #34
Random 995K
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by 328xi View Post
Nice review. Gaming is so much easier with the mini as well.
No it's much worse, the mini can't even handle "real" games.
__________________
iPhone 64GB iPad 4 iMac 21.5 (2010)
Random 995K is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2012, 01:03 AM   #35
shortcut3d
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by kannesss View Post
I have a 3. And I just noticed how much lag it has compared to my iPhone 5. I couldn't ever go to non retnia after using a 5 and iPad 3. But I could do without an iPad I think. I use my phone way more now, and I haven't turned on my iPad in a few weeks probably.

I was thinking of selling my 3 when the iPad mini 2 comes out. Better faster, better screen and camera. The usual stuff
According to Anandtech's review of the iPad mini, there will likely not be a retina display for sometime in the mini format. Mainly the price and battery life moving to a A6X to drive a retina display. This convinced my wife and I to go from iPad 3 64GB LTE to mini's. The iPad is simply huge compared to the mini.
__________________
2013 13" rMBP 2.8GHz i7|16GB 1600MHz|512GB SSD PCIe
shortcut3d is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2012, 01:08 AM   #36
shadowjeff
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Random 995K View Post
No it's much worse, the mini can't even handle "real" games.
You have to try gaming on the ipad mini it's the perfect size for a handheld device, even though games look a lot sharper on the ipad 4
shadowjeff is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2012, 01:52 AM   #37
CandyNJ66
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Random 995K View Post
No it's much worse, the mini can't even handle "real" games.
Do you actually even have an iPad Mini? Im a big gamer and not one single high graphic intensive game has run badly. It runs games very smoothly.

The size for me is perfect for gaming especially racing games because I have to move the Mini during racing. The large iPad made my hands tired after awhile. With the Mini, that doesn't happen anymore.
__________________
Ipad Air Space Grey 64GB Wifi
CandyNJ66 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2012, 02:22 AM   #38
dinggus
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
I love my iPad Mini, the iOS devices I own are:

iPhone 3GS
iPhone 4
iPhone 4S
iPhone 5
iPad 2
iPad 3
iPad Mini

There is definitely a big difference between the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4+, once I seen the iPad Mini, I knew there wasn't going to be a difference between the iPad 2 and iPad Mini. I love the product, why not have the iPad 2 in a smaller form with upgraded camera's? Best Apple product I have owned so far.

I love that it's weightless, small and compact, it's perfect.
dinggus is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2012, 02:41 AM   #39
Dlanod
macrumors 6502a
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: UK
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdonisSMU View Post
Thumb typing is so much faster on the mini.
Try thumb typing on Nexus 7. As fast as a phone. I have my cellular mini on order but I'm worried that it'll not stack up against my N7 for a number of things and typing is one of them.

Had a wifi only Mini but the screen was too much of a compromise. Hoping that cellular will tip the balance over a Nexus 7. If the cellular Nexus 7s come back into stock soon I fear it's all over for the Mini for me though. Which is a shame. Love everything else about the Mini. Good review OP.
__________________
Far far too much Apple kit to admit to!
Dlanod is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2012, 03:38 AM   #40
iwan073
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Holland
Quote:
Originally Posted by thirdeyeopen666 View Post
How in the heck are you getting 20+ hours?
Yeah. 20+ hours AND 60% left!
__________________
 21.5" iMac Intel Core i5 @ 2.5GHz, 12GB RAM, 500GB HDD
 iPhone 5S 16GB Silver
 iPad Air Wi-Fi 16GB Silver
iwan073 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2012, 06:19 AM   #41
Random 995K
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by CandyNJ66 View Post
Do you actually even have an iPad Mini? Im a big gamer and not one single high graphic intensive game has run badly. It runs games very smoothly.

The size for me is perfect for gaming especially racing games because I have to move the Mini during racing. The large iPad made my hands tired after awhile. With the Mini, that doesn't happen anymore.
Ok you play your graphically reduced games... All big games lower the effects and FPS on the mini and ipad 2 and iphone 4. Also if you want i can send you a video of asphalt 7 stuttering on the mini.

----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowjeff View Post
You have to try gaming on the ipad mini it's the perfect size for a handheld device, even though games look a lot sharper on the ipad 4
I know its a better size/portability but it games don't look anywhere near as good and they don't run anywhere near as good.
__________________
iPhone 64GB iPad 4 iMac 21.5 (2010)
Random 995K is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2012, 01:30 PM   #42
CandyNJ66
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Random 995K View Post
Ok you play your graphically reduced games... All big games lower the effects and FPS on the mini and ipad 2 and iphone 4. Also if you want i can send you a video of asphalt 7 stuttering on the mini.
Asphalt 7 runs like butter on my Mini and I looked at your posts, you don't actually own a mini. You watch videos and make judgements based on that. Riiight...
__________________
Ipad Air Space Grey 64GB Wifi
CandyNJ66 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2012, 01:46 PM   #43
shenan1982
macrumors 68000
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by pommie82 View Post
Mini great for everything except movies period!!!!!!!
Mini is a little small to be watching movies on.
This comment makes no sense. It's absolutely the right size for movies. The average coach seat on an aircraft is a 6-8" screen, just like the iPad.

On a regional jet, the full size iPad\laptop is entirely unusable. The size of the mini makes it perfect for those like me who spend half our lives in airplane seats.

Yeah, in business\first, the full size would work, but the last thing I want to take on an international trip is something that would increase the size\weight of the carryon bag I need.

Sounds like the anti-mini responders in here are trying to justify their purchase. Who cares people? I have both, so can speak without bias :-)
shenan1982 is offline   3 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2012, 06:02 PM   #44
Random 995K
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by CandyNJ66 View Post
Asphalt 7 runs like butter on my Mini and I looked at your posts, you don't actually own a mini. You watch videos and make judgements based on that. Riiight...
I don't own a mini but have sen numerous youtube vides of it not being good for gaming. Check the following video (the poster can't even notice thats its not running smooth but whatever). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yRlJgexp6c
look at: 6:04, 6:20, 6:32 and 6:45 is quite the stutter. Seriously don't even bother arguing it. The mini cannot play high end games flawlessly. I agree that it feels better to hold and is lighter but everything else is inferior. Its expected really though, it has a 2 year old chip without quad core GPU. You may think that stuttering is quite subtle but to me its very annoying. I have NOVA 3 and know for a fact that my 4S stutters especially on the multiplayer. He wasn't even on multiplayer...

(EDIT)Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuGF6oQ85Ko
Look at 2:01
__________________
iPhone 64GB iPad 4 iMac 21.5 (2010)

Last edited by Random 995K; Nov 24, 2012 at 06:09 PM.
Random 995K is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2012, 06:11 PM   #45
AppleRobert
macrumors 68020
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowjeff View Post
In a similar situation as you. Even right now with both devices on hand I still can't decide. Yesterday was the ipad mini, today was the ipad 4, now back to wanting to keep the mini. I really should settle on one and return the other.
Keep the 4 unless the size, weight and portability are just too good for you to pass up with the Mini. In the long run I think the 4 is the better keeper for its newer technology and how well it performs and lightning fast.
AppleRobert is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2012, 06:55 PM   #46
CandyNJ66
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Random 995K View Post
I don't own a mini but have sen numerous youtube vides of it not being good for gaming. Check the following video the poster can't even notice thats its not running smooth but whatever). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yRlJgexp6c
look at: 6:04, 6:20, 6:32 and 6:45 is quite the stutter. Seriously don't even bother arguing it. The mini cannot play high end games flawlessly. I agree that it feels better to hold and is lighter but everything else is inferior. Its expected really though, it has a 2 year old chip without quad core GPU. You may think that stuttering is quite subtle but to me its very annoying. I have NOVA 3 and know for a fact that my 4S stutters especially on the multiplayer. He wasn't even on multiplayer...

(EDIT)Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuGF6oQ85Ko
Look at 2:01
I've owned every iPhone and every iPad. What you are saying is your opinion. Of course without the 1 gig of ram and no A6, some games might have frame drops. The games I play, do not nor do I detect any lag. I have seen videos of it playing high end games fine with Nova being an exception. Ive looked at Nova 3 videos on the Mini and it looks a lot of fun. this wouldnt bother me. You also do not own a Mini as we all know, so you can only rely on videos and people with varying degrees of Internet speed/lots of apps open.

I rely on my own experiences in being an iPad Mini owner, so none of what you say is going to subtract from my opinion.

You saying don't bother to argue is bizarre. It's two opinions, that's all it is. I'm enjoying my Mini for gaming thank you

----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Random 995K View Post
I don't own a mini but have sen numerous youtube vides of it not being good for gaming. Check the following video (the poster can't even notice thats its not running smooth but whatever). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yRlJgexp6c
look at: 6:04, 6:20, 6:32 and 6:45 is quite the stutter. Seriously don't even bother arguing it. The mini cannot play high end games flawlessly. I agree that it feels better to hold and is lighter but everything else is inferior. Its expected really though, it has a 2 year old chip without quad core GPU. You may think that stuttering is quite subtle but to me its very annoying. I have NOVA 3 and know for a fact that my 4S stutters especially on the multiplayer. He wasn't even on multiplayer...

(EDIT)Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuGF6oQ85Ko
Look at 2:01
Look at 6:20, that's slow motion, not stuttering.
__________________
Ipad Air Space Grey 64GB Wifi
CandyNJ66 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2012, 06:56 PM   #47
shadowjeff
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by AppleRobert View Post
Keep the 4 unless the size, weight and portability are just too good for you to pass up with the Mini. In the long run I think the 4 is the better keeper for its newer technology and how well it performs and lightning fast.
Too late, already returned the ipad 4! It's true the size weight and portability is the deciding factor, even despite the fact that I got an ipad for home use. I find myself using the ipad mini more than the ipad 4, not to mention I've been using the ipad mini for a week and I just got the ipad 4 yesterday. This says a lot since the ipad mini novelty should have died down by now. I have a MBA 13 so the ipad mini probably complements it better.

The ipad 4's display is just soooo gorgeous, every time I pick it up I just fall in the love with the screen. Its easy on the eyes and text/pictures seem to just pop out. Movies and games look a lot better, was playing fifa 3 and the graphics is beautiful. But the ipad 4 is too heavy, my wrist got tired after holding it for a while, unless you leave it on the table, which I find my laptop would be of better use this way.

The thing is after using the ipad 4, I started to appreciate the ipad mini more. Before, I was finding faults on it: screen is too small for home use seems similar to my iPhone 5, text is fuzzy, screen colors looks washed, build quality feels cheap especially on that front glass panel, or why should i be using a cheaper ipad when i can afford the ipad 4. But now I just use it for what it is because the ipad mini is so much more comfortable and I know for a fact ill be sticking to this thing till next year.
shadowjeff is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2012, 07:01 PM   #48
CandyNJ66
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowjeff View Post
Too late, already returned the ipad 4! It's true the size weight and portability is the deciding factor, even despite the fact that I got an ipad for home use. I find myself using the ipad mini more than the ipad 4, not to mention I've been using the ipad mini for a week and I just got the ipad 4 yesterday. This says a lot since the ipad mini novelty should have died down by now. I have a MBA 13 so the ipad mini probably complements it better.

The ipad 4's display is just soooo gorgeous, every time I pick it up I just fall in the love with the screen. Its easy on the eyes and text/pictures seem to just pop out. Movies and games look a lot better, was playing fifa 3 and the graphics is beautiful. But the ipad 4 is too heavy, my wrist got tired after holding it for a while, unless you leave it on the table, which I find my laptop would be of better use this way.
Congrats on making a decision that's perfect for you
__________________
Ipad Air Space Grey 64GB Wifi

Last edited by CandyNJ66; Nov 24, 2012 at 07:09 PM.
CandyNJ66 is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2012, 07:29 PM   #49
Random 995K
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by CandyNJ66 View Post
I've owned every iPhone and every iPad. What you are saying is your opinion. Of course without the 1 gig of ram and no A6, some games might have frame drops. The games I play, do not nor do I detect any lag. I have seen videos of it playing high end games fine with Nova being an exception. Ive looked at Nova 3 videos on the Mini and it looks a lot of fun. this wouldnt bother me. You also do not own a Mini as we all know, so you can only rely on videos and people with varying degrees of Internet speed/lots of apps open.

I rely on my own experiences in being an iPad Mini owner, so none of what you say is going to subtract from my opinion.

You saying don't bother to argue is bizarre. It's two opinions, that's all it is. I'm enjoying my Mini for gaming thank you

----------



Look at 6:20, that's slow motion, not stuttering.
Yeah i guess i should really own one if i want to know for sure but i cant really afford one, at least for now. The stuttering or frame rate drops are very small and infrequent. Most people wouldn't really care about them but i do. I shouldn't have said don't bother arguing since as you said its just an opinion, what i meant is that the evidence is there pointing to the lacking ability of the mini to run NOVA 3 smoothly 100% of the time. And yeah 6:20 is slow motion, i didn't realise at first.

The problem i find with the mini is how it will fair in the future with games like Asphalt 8 and infinity blade 3 and NOVA 4. I guess we have to wait to find out Also the retina display makes a big difference to gaming but thats very subjective anyway.
__________________
iPhone 64GB iPad 4 iMac 21.5 (2010)
Random 995K is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Nov 24, 2012, 07:29 PM   #50
AppleRobert
macrumors 68020
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Shadowjeff,

Enjoy the Mini, I certainly did. I had to make a decision between it and the 4. What I am going with is the 4 since I have no other iPad to go to for watching videos and playing games amongst other things and especially a screen as great as it is.
AppleRobert is offline   0 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > iPhone, iPod and iPad > iPad

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
iPad Mini: iPad mini to rMini back to iPad mini chillip iPad 3 Nov 30, 2013 10:43 AM
A7X-Based iPad and iPad Mini Expected to Launch in 4Q 2013, Lower-Cost A6 iPad Mini to Follow in 2014 MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 178 Oct 11, 2013 07:52 AM
iPad: Happy iPad Mini owners, switch back to next 9.7 iPad if same weight? jqc iPad 24 Jan 26, 2013 11:22 PM
iPad Mini: Sent my iPad mini back... Mrrikki iPad 12 Nov 8, 2012 10:41 AM
iPad mini shiny back gadget123 iPad 5 Oct 23, 2012 04:35 PM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:20 AM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC