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Old Nov 24, 2012, 10:17 PM   #26
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Stop Apple, just stop... give me a better UI experience! Focus on innovation, not litigation.
Yeah this is only Apple. Samsung is just as responsible here.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 10:23 PM   #27
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Yeah this is only Apple. Samsung is just as responsible here.
Who throw the first stone and continued till these day ?
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 10:25 PM   #28
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Again like I said earlier, It's obvious that Jony Ive is in the courtroom every day preparing legal documents and court evidence... not making products. :/

Come on people, Apple employes thousands of people, the legal team is just some people working in a completely separate environment from the product guys.
You can see from a different angle: If Apple were successful with all their litigations they can rest in peace on their patents and never have to come up with any new idea. As they did since the iPhone 4.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 10:38 PM   #29
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Who cares. If Apple is right, they win. If Samsung is right, they win.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 10:40 PM   #30
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Who throw the first stone and continued till these day ?
Samsung did. By copying. And Apple was forced to defended their patents or lose the patents. Well you know what I mean by that. (not a legal expert).
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 10:44 PM   #31
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Good god this is getting ridiculous. Both companies need to grow the %#^! up and end this nonsense now.

Oh and MR needs some kind of "back page" where these legal stories can be posted. They're so silly now they're not even worth commenting on.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 10:51 PM   #32
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Who cares. If Apple is right, they win. If Samsung is right, they win.
Being right and winning ain't the same thing when it come to litigations.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 10:56 PM   #33
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There comes a point where suing becomes easier than innovation. Clearly, Apple thinks they have reached that point. Take the last, oh I don't know... 3 years? Add up the lawsuits and compare that with the number of innovative products coming out of Cupertino in the same time period.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 11:28 PM   #34
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There comes a point where suing becomes easier than innovation. Clearly, Apple thinks they have reached that point. Take the last, oh I don't know... 3 years? Add up the lawsuits and compare that with the number of innovative products coming out of Cupertino in the same time period.
Apple's not the only guilty party here, no matter how much Samsung wants to play the victim. They added the iPhone 5, 4th gen iPad and iPad mini to this lawsuit. And I believe some of what they claim Apple is infringing on are FRAND patents which would be covered between Qualcomm and Samsung, no? How can Apple be infringing if its Qualcomm technology and Qualcomm is paying royalties to Samsung?
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 11:48 PM   #35
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Well, according to Demolition Man, Taco Bell was the only restaurant to survive the Franchise Wars in 2032. Who will win the Patent Wars of the 2010's?

I submit that, in 20 years, we will all be driving hovering iMobiles eating Chalupas.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 11:53 PM   #36
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At this point both companies are being selfish and stupid. I understand that indeed patents may have been violated on both sides. But this continuous bickering and distancing from one another is going to (and has already to a degree) hurt both parties. Perhaps in the long run, Samsung has more to lose, but they're both losing now.
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Old Nov 24, 2012, 11:55 PM   #37
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Macrumors post these stories because there are still enough people who care and want to argue the same old whose wrong whose right lines.

The fact that Apple have been making settlements is an encouraging sign. Of course we all know that Samsung (who have clearly copied and a blind man can see that - including products, ads, packaging, plugs etc and really it's the ultimate compliment) ... We all know the Samsung guy came out and said they would not settle they intend to fight and fight and fight.

So I guess Macrumors will post these items and those that aren't tired will still fight for Apple or Samsung or against either or against both....

I've kind of heard it all before. So I'm more in the who cares dept.

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Old Nov 25, 2012, 12:05 AM   #38
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Apple's not the only guilty party here, no matter how much Samsung wants to play the victim. They added the iPhone 5, 4th gen iPad and iPad mini to this lawsuit. And I believe some of what they claim Apple is infringing on are FRAND patents which would be covered between Qualcomm and Samsung, no? How can Apple be infringing if its Qualcomm technology and Qualcomm is paying royalties to Samsung?
Yes, Apple is. Samsung is simply going on the offensive now and it's directly due to Apple actions. It's like the bully that keeps picking on someone day in and day out. The other guy tries to turn the other cheek but the bully keeps coming. Eventually the other guy's going to snap.
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Old Nov 25, 2012, 12:06 AM   #39
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Samsung did. By copying. And Apple was forced to defended their patents or lose the patents. Well you know what I mean by that. (not a legal expert).
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Old Nov 25, 2012, 12:08 AM   #40
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Patent for rounded rectangles is absurd. I understand Apple's obsession with it since their GUI days with the early mac's but that was again inspired by the windows and furnitures in their office.

So I guess the furniture makers of those days have to file a lawsuit against Apple to begin with.

Well they have lot of cash to burn. Might as well file these endless lawsuits just to scare the other players away.

Windows Phone has a great future if these lawsuits keep piling up.
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Old Nov 25, 2012, 12:09 AM   #41
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Patent for rounded rectangles is absurd. I understand Apple's obsession with it since their GUI days with the early mac's but that was again inspired by the windows and furnitures in their office.

So I guess the furniture makers of those days have to file a lawsuit against Apple to begin with.

Well they have lot of cash to burn. Might as well file these endless lawsuits just to scare the other players away.

Windows Phone has a great future if these lawsuits keep piling up.
They should burn that cash by funding some R&D into better battery chemistry.
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Old Nov 25, 2012, 12:28 AM   #42
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Apple could win all of the lawsuits and it still won't convince me to use a gimped mobile device like an iPhone.
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Old Nov 25, 2012, 12:30 AM   #43
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Just because Macrumors chooses to publicise these lawsuits very often it doesn't mean Apple is in the wrong... lol

Apple have lawyers for a reason, not just decoration..
Apple make products for their own fame not others..

you can see how these things start to make sense right?

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Apple could win all of the lawsuits and it still won't convince me to use a gimped mobile device like an iPhone.
Gimped? It does what it is supposed to do, how is that Gimped? Do you need your mobile phone to be able to make a sandwich for you? I would prefer the iPhone looks over the Sandwich Maker SIV
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Old Nov 25, 2012, 12:35 AM   #44
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Just because Macrumors chooses to publicise these lawsuits very often it doesn't mean Apple is in the wrong... lol

Apple have lawyers for a reason, not just decoration..
Apple make products for their own fame not others..

you can see how these things start to make sense right?

stop WHINING!

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Gimped? It does what it is supposed to do, how is that Gimped? Do you need your mobile phone to be able to make a sandwich for you? I would prefer the iPhone looks over the Sandwich Maker SIV
I don't see how anything you said makes sense in the context of this thread tbh
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Old Nov 25, 2012, 12:55 AM   #45
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Old Nov 25, 2012, 01:04 AM   #46
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Nope.
Nope nope.

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Apple could win all of the lawsuits and it still won't convince me to use a gimped mobile device like an iPhone.
Curious, what do you use for mobile and computing needs?

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Old Nov 25, 2012, 01:20 AM   #47
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The show goes on.

We need another Posner judge to slap both of them
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Old Nov 25, 2012, 02:00 AM   #48
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Stop Apple, just stop... give me a better UI experience! Focus on innovation, not litigation.
heh heh, the lawsuit has nothing to do with users like us. It is a way to divide the profit from all the mobile computing. Whoever own more of the IP will get more of the spoils. Microsoft is already shaped up to be the big winner even thought they have not done much on mobile deivce (and Surface and Window 8 looks to be a non-event in the mobile world right now). There are quite a few Android vendors signed cross licensing agreement with Microsoft and pay anywhere between $5 to $15 a handset for Microsoft IP right. Apple and Samsung is just trying to follow Microsoft footstep and try to decide who own what right. So get off the high horse about UI. If the UI is so bad why is so many people are buying Iphone, Ipad, Itouch etc. Changing UI just because it is around for a while is a bad idea. Just look at Window 8, it piss off so many users familiar with Window 7 that it looks to have a tough road to get user to accept the new UI.
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Old Nov 25, 2012, 02:06 AM   #49
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I wish they could just come to an agreement and start focusing on making products
What makes you think they aren't focusing on new products? Apple's product team etc. etc. and legal department are two different things.
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Wonder why iOS 6 was so blah and lacked major features? .
What major features does it lack?
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