No! Bendgate is real! - Page 2

virginblue4 · 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jetlagged

NO!!! people are complaining that some iphones come out scuff out of the box. they are not complaining that the phone will eventually scuff with normal use. get your fact straight jack.

Actually, a lot of people are complaining that it is scratching with normal usage. So before you tell someone that they're wrong, do some research.

braddick · Nov 25, 2012, 10:32 AM

Would a thin, yet sturdy case solve this problem?

bwhli · Nov 25, 2012, 10:41 AM

Don't sit on your phone? I dunno. Maybe it's not that simple.

Breaking Good · Nov 25, 2012, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VinegarTasters

iPhone 5 is prone to bending. It was a buy, now a no-buy

Instead of using Aluminum 6061-T6 (tempered), Apples uses regular Aluminum 6061, which is so soft any stress will bend it. So you can't sit on it, and it
will bend by itself if, internally, there is enough stress from screws and glue.
It will bend at the weakest point, usually the volume buttons because that is
where the big holes are on the outer metal that is holding the integrity of the iPhone 5.

I am hoping they can change to 6061-T6 aluminum. "HOPING" because using it may interfere with the precision of the cuts, which may make it impossible. It may add weight to the device though.

Also, SCUFFGATE is real. Instead of using type III anodizing (hard anodizing), Apple uses instead type II anodizing. Which is why all over the internet your iPhone 5 has these dents and specks.

It is a no sale until Apple uses 6061-T6 Aluminum or 7075 Aluminum, and uses type III anodizing for the outer coat of the aluminum. Or go back to using
stainless steel. I am surprised they didn't catch these problems during prototyping and designing stages.

I think they will only fix it if enough people want them to use the new type of aluminum or anodizing process. I don't think this is a minor problem.

So what type of aluminum does Apple use in the MacBook and the iPad?

I out be surprised to find out that Apple switched aluminum alloys when they designed the iPhone 5.

JayLenochiniMac · Nov 25, 2012, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VinegarTasters

Also, SCUFFGATE is real. Instead of using type III anodizing (hard anodizing), Apple uses instead type II anodizing. Which is why all over the internet your iPhone 5 has these dents and specks.

All those dents and specks are either pre-damaged out of the box from manufacturing or from defective anodizing coating. Many of us still have flawless black iP5 from day one (even with factory-inflicted nicks). It has nothing to do with the type of anodizing coating used.

bogatyr · Nov 25, 2012, 12:06 PM

Easy fix: don't sit on it!

Regarding the scratching... I've had one since they were released, no case or protectors. The only mark on it is from when I was drunk and dropped it from 6 feet - a small dent which was entirely from my own stupidity. No scratches, no scuffs, no nothing outside that little dent.

ucfgrad93 · Nov 25, 2012, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jtludwig

Where did you hear all of this nonsense? Everything is xxxgate. What about stupidGate for posts like this?

Agreed. The OP didn't provide any evidence of his claim.

Esoom · Nov 25, 2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bwhli

Don't sit on your phone? I dunno. Maybe it's not that simple.

Damn you for suggesting such a simple and biased remedy, some of us like sitting on our expensive phones.

tpr007 · Nov 25, 2012, 12:41 PM

The only aluminium the OP has any knowledge of is the foil that makes his tin hat.

Jtludwig · Nov 25, 2012, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tpr007

The only aluminium the OP has any knowledge of is the foil that makes his tin hat.

Shhhh..,they are listening.

armandxp · Nov 25, 2012, 12:45 PM

I love how OP starts a thread to get people fired up and never makes any more posts.

darster · Nov 25, 2012, 12:52 PM

Simple solution. Bender Bending Rodríguez

itjw · Nov 25, 2012, 01:01 PM

No! What we have is a lot of overblown forum hype...

Scuffgate?

Bend gate?

Faulty anodizing? Really? Show me a case where it is SHOWN (not just claimed on the Internet) that it has even happened once. Sure... All I did was rub it on concrete. Must be bad coating! No one has proven their coating came off through normal use. They only have the "after" pics and a lot of bs as to how it happened: microfiber towel, dropped onto a pillow with a parachute, gently massaged it, etc...

There is no problem. If you sit on it, it will bend. If you take care of it, it won't. Similar for scuffgate: it scratches easier, but no one scratches easier than another if you care for it.

Disagree? Prove it.

"Defective coating"... Sheesh... I have a bridge to sell you if you believe that. It's just a sob story from someone who lied about how they cared for their phone. It isn't indestructible. Doesn't make it defective. Sorry.

Merkie · Nov 25, 2012, 01:04 PM

I don't think the aluminum back of the iPhone 5 scratches so easily as everyone thinks. I treat my iPhone 5 the same way as I did with my 4, and apart from a small nick as a result from me dropping the phone, the aluminum doesn't have any scratch, scuff, nick or dent.

iUser4Lyfe · Nov 25, 2012, 01:17 PM

I would have swore there was going to be a source link with all that nonsense

JayLenochiniMac · Nov 25, 2012, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armandxp

I love how OP starts a thread to get people fired up and never makes any more posts.

Been sniffing too much vinegar.

sectime · Nov 25, 2012, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogatyr

Easy fix: don't sit on it!

Regarding the scratching... I've had one since they were released, no case or protectors. The only mark on it is from when I was drunk and dropped it from 6 feet - a small dent which was entirely from my own stupidity. No scratches, no scuffs, no nothing outside that little dent.

I also have a Galaxy S3. The boards are full of posts about phone/pocket/ sitting down/Cracked screen. Front and rear pocket no difference. Samsung response you broke it. You gave good advice.

jetlagged · Nov 25, 2012, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by virginblue4

Actually, a lot of people are complaining that it is scratching with normal usage. So before you tell someone that they're wrong, do some research.

i did my research and like i said iphone 5 will eventually scuff off with normal usage if you read my research paper professor.

VulchR · Nov 25, 2012, 02:23 PM

Breaking news: A very large proportion of people in the West are overweight.

jetlagged · Nov 25, 2012, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VulchR

Breaking news: A very large proportion of people in the West are overweight.

that's a myth, just like gay japanese male.

Jtludwig · Nov 25, 2012, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by virginblue4

Actually, a lot of people are complaining that it is scratching with normal usage. So before you tell someone that they're wrong, do some research.

So how many people post on this forum? Hundreds? Thousands?

And how many IPhone 5s have been sold? Millions?

So what's the source of your "facts"? It better not be some Internet forum.

jon3543 · Nov 25, 2012, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jtludwig

What about stupidGate for posts like this?

Someone should start a poll. I'd add:

Crankgate, since every Apple product release brings out a legion of cranks.
Starchygate, since all these complaints amount to, "Kinda starchy." (I explained this Bloom County reference in another post.)

I imagine the mantra for gaters starts with, "This is my gate. There are many like it but this one is mine."

kthnxshwn · Nov 25, 2012, 02:42 PM

Anyone who calls anything —gate deserves to get their shit bent.

travis.hansen · Nov 25, 2012, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VinegarTasters

iPhone 5 is prone to bending. It was a buy, now a no-buy

Instead of using Aluminum 6061-T6 (tempered), Apples uses regular Aluminum 6061, which is so soft any stress will bend it. So you can't sit on it, and it
will bend by itself if, internally, there is enough stress from screws and glue.
It will bend at the weakest point, usually the volume buttons because that is
where the big holes are on the outer metal that is holding the integrity of the iPhone 5.

I am hoping they can change to 6061-T6 aluminum. "HOPING" because using it may interfere with the precision of the cuts, which may make it impossible. It may add weight to the device though.

Also, SCUFFGATE is real. Instead of using type III anodizing (hard anodizing), Apple uses instead type II anodizing. Which is why all over the internet your iPhone 5 has these dents and specks.

It is a no sale until Apple uses 6061-T6 Aluminum or 7075 Aluminum, and uses type III anodizing for the outer coat of the aluminum. Or go back to using
stainless steel. I am surprised they didn't catch these problems during prototyping and designing stages.

I think they will only fix it if enough people want them to use the new type of aluminum or anodizing process. I don't think this is a minor problem.

I dropped one of my iPhone 5's from about 4' and it bent the top corner of the bezel pretty good. A lot more than I would have expected. My old iPhone 4S keeps looking better and better to me

McGiord · Nov 25, 2012, 02:47 PM

Time to stop wasting your time in a very serious Internet forum for Apple fans, and study more for your materials science degree, Apple will not hire you, and all the others might be interested if you get into painting plastics.
So the Aluminum frame is less stiff than the Glass...

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Nov 25, 2012, 02:23 PM	#44
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Nov 25, 2012, 10:32 AM	#27
braddick Contributor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Encinitas, CA	Would a thin, yet sturdy case solve this problem?
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Nov 25, 2012, 12:06 PM	#31
bogatyr macrumors 65816 Join Date: Mar 2012	Easy fix: don't sit on it! Regarding the scratching... I've had one since they were released, no case or protectors. The only mark on it is from when I was drunk and dropped it from 6 feet - a small dent which was entirely from my own stupidity. No scratches, no scuffs, no nothing outside that little dent.
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Nov 25, 2012, 12:52 PM	#37
darster macrumors 65816 Join Date: Aug 2011	Simple solution. Bender Bending Rodríguez
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Nov 25, 2012, 01:01 PM	#38
itjw macrumors 6502 Join Date: Dec 2011	No! What we have is a lot of overblown forum hype... Scuffgate? Bend gate? Faulty anodizing? Really? Show me a case where it is SHOWN (not just claimed on the Internet) that it has even happened once. Sure... All I did was rub it on concrete. Must be bad coating! No one has proven their coating came off through normal use. They only have the "after" pics and a lot of bs as to how it happened: microfiber towel, dropped onto a pillow with a parachute, gently massaged it, etc... There is no problem. If you sit on it, it will bend. If you take care of it, it won't. Similar for scuffgate: it scratches easier, but no one scratches easier than another if you care for it. Disagree? Prove it. "Defective coating"... Sheesh... I have a bridge to sell you if you believe that. It's just a sob story from someone who lied about how they cared for their phone. It isn't indestructible. Doesn't make it defective. Sorry.
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Nov 25, 2012, 01:04 PM	#39
Merkie macrumors 6502a Join Date: Oct 2008	I don't think the aluminum back of the iPhone 5 scratches so easily as everyone thinks. I treat my iPhone 5 the same way as I did with my 4, and apart from a small nick as a result from me dropping the phone, the aluminum doesn't have any scratch, scuff, nick or dent.
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Nov 25, 2012, 01:17 PM	#40
iUser4Lyfe macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jun 2009	I would have swore there was going to be a source link with all that nonsense
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Nov 25, 2012, 02:42 PM	#48
kthnxshwn macrumors regular Join Date: Jun 2010	Anyone who calls anything —gate deserves to get their shit bent.
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Nov 25, 2012, 02:47 PM	#50
McGiord macrumors 68040 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dark Castle	Time to stop wasting your time in a very serious Internet forum for Apple fans, and study more for your materials science degree, Apple will not hire you, and all the others might be interested if you get into painting plastics. So the Aluminum frame is less stiff than the Glass...
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