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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:11 PM   #101
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I have 2 issues with roads :

- Roads are now missing when they were there in the Google Maps version of the application in iOS 5.

- The god awful "pretty" rendering that makes maps unreadable. Roads are too thin, colors are non-distinctive. There's a reason Google Maps is "ugly", because it's easy to read at a glance.
This! Google Maps isn't ugly though, it's perfect! It's easy on the eyes yet offering lots of detail. Apple Maps is more distracting and offers less information per pixelČ.

Google Maps is rock solid.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:11 PM   #102
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I've been using the Maps app since like June and haven't had any problems. What's it doing for the rest of you? Like guiding you into a lake? Hahaha you guys are like Dwight Shrute.

So far, I've used it in North East Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Chicago & Richmond VA without any issues.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:11 PM   #103
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I defended maps for a long time, but it did totally screw up turn by turn for me two weekends ago. It's a shame because navigating with Siri is so wonderfully easy. But back to navigon it is.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:11 PM   #104
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Why cant apple just say they screwed up and bring google mapa back.. That simple and we would all be happy
I really would love this idea.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:12 PM   #105
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How come he was fired for a map issue which is not that big of a deal when no one was fired for the antenna issue on the iPhone 4???
You mean that antenna issue that affected something like 1/10th a percent of users, 90% of which are in areas of generally ****** reception
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:12 PM   #106
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:12 PM   #107
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When someone is having trouble with software, I usually ask them to Google it for a solution. Seems applicable.
Ya, because we all know Android devices are bug-free....

I think the main reason I've never had an issue with Apple Maps is because I don't rely on it 100%. Even in Cali over Thanksgiving, I drove my wife and I to San Diego from Temecula. Never done that before, though it's a pretty straight shot. Apple maps took my to the zoo, down to the harbor walk, to the Midway and back to Temecula without any problem.

But I also used my brain and read street signs. Which helped make sure I was in the right place. Google maps wasn't perfect, neither is Apple maps. But it damn well isn't as awful as it's made out to be. It needs to improve more quickly than Google Maps was allowed to - which I have a feeling is part of the reason for the shakeup (that and people who whine and complain - and the media - just couldn't let it go).

I'd give it a year before Apple Maps is king of the mountain.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:12 PM   #108
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Still waiting for Google, TomTom, Garmin, etc to provide my correct home location. I've reported it to every mapping company at least 3 times a year. You figure after 7 years, it'd be fixed
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:12 PM   #109
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Why cant apple just say they screwed up and bring google mapa back.. That simple and we would all be happy
You would be happy with the previous offering from google on maps iOS? You've got to be kidding me. Just buy a maps app and get over it! There was no turn by turn on the old app, it was crap to everyone that I know.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:14 PM   #110
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just buy Tomtom , it works way better than garmin and ios maps..
It is also a major data source for iOS Maps. Makes you wonder about the quality of the data they gave Apple access to and why it seems to be so lacking
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:14 PM   #111
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I used it twice over the weekend - first time was to go to a hotel for a wedding. It sent me to a residential culdesac near the hotel and told me I was there.

Second time was to go to a bday party that turned out to be at a store in an outdoor mall. It sent me to a residential street behind the mall and told me I was there.
I have the TomTom app on my iPhone 4 and it does that sometimes. I think sometimes its a problem with GPS reception... and sometimes its a problem with addresses labeled to wrong parts of the map itself. Drives me nuts when I'm looking for a particular parking garage in Chicago... and I'm led into an alley, a full block off target.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:15 PM   #112
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Here is your advice, play nice with google and get their good turn by turn and POI data on your idevices.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:15 PM   #113
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You mean that antenna issue that affected something like 1/10th a percent of users, 90% of which are in areas of generally ****** reception
I had such crappy reception with AT&T in FL, at that time, who knows if it was the phone or really AT&T sucking. But, now they've upped their service here, and I never, never drop a call anymore. Used to be at least three dropped calls a day. But, anywho, who cares we had that gorgeous phone in our midst!
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:15 PM   #114
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Your right, they are better doing nothing.
That's the best suggestion ever!
In all seriousness, they should ditch their current misguided effort at making their own maps and go back to Google and re-contract for their maps. I certainly won't miss the current maps ugly colors or the useless Flyover feature.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:16 PM   #115
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Yeah, Google has spent many years and lots of moolah to make their maps work.
Yeah let's ignore that Google Maps was just as crappy when it was less than a year old
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:16 PM   #116
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It's not just about this one restaurant or street that is displayed wrongfully, it's about the whole experience.

Maps are not easy, they have to offer multiple functions. Mapping data has to be 100% correct, POI's have to be good and this all has to have an intuitive and clean interface. It has to give you a lotof information without looking for it. It has to feel like a natural experience, finding and exploring things shouldn't take an effort, and Apple Maps just takes more efforts than Google Maps. Even if Apple Maps shows all the streets and POI's correctly, there is still the problem of rendering (narrow streets, POI's as circles, few details when zoomed out).

Here's a challenge: suppose Apple took ALL data directly from Google, including POI's, do you still think Apple Maps would be on par in terms of quality with Google Maps? No. It's still lacking this clear, clean and intuitive look that Google Maps has. It's the whole package that makes it inferior to Google Maps.

Even if all satelite views, POI's and street names are correct, you still end up with this:



The lack of detail sucks.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:18 PM   #117
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How this happened originally is crazy. Firing people now is too late - the mess already happened.
Is Apple _really_ asleep at the wheel, as it appears?

And I don't mean the timing of this firing, but HELLO APPLE? Maps... the entire idea was such a waste just so that they could brag that Apple had created their own maps.

What is Apple up to?

Do they know?

Are they really that full of themselves?

What a bizarre way for a once world class company to operate.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:20 PM   #118
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just buy Tomtom , it works way better than garmin and ios maps.. i doubt they can make it as good as it. Put it this way, if you want a quality gps navigation for iphone, your going to have to pay for it. Im thinking apple maps might have a paid version or subscription in the future
I have the TOMTOM app and it has many mistakes in its map that I've encountered! Overall, it was worth the $50 bucks, though.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:20 PM   #120
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It's a bummer that someone got **** canned over this issue that wasn't likely an issue for all.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:20 PM   #121
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Maybe now I'll be able to find my way home after a drunken night out, instead of ending up in a Japanese family's rec room.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:21 PM   #122
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I feel bad for Williamson. After he was fired he couldn't find his way out of the building.
At least he doesn't "sleep where he works", like the Chinese iPhone assemblers. They don't have any issues with the maps!
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:22 PM   #123
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In the end, Maps was a fiasco and heads had to roll. But, of course, it really is all on Cook who let it go out the door that way.
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:22 PM   #124
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Is Eddy Cue a real person? It sounds like some kind of alias....
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Old Nov 27, 2012, 02:23 PM   #125
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