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Old Nov 30, 2012, 02:32 PM   #1
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Purchased mid-2012 MBA from eBay, seller says its preinstalled with Lion?

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I am expecting a delivery of a mid-2012 MBA 11" tomorrow that I purchased from eBay.

The seller says that it will come with Lion on it after he 'completely erased everything'. Is this right? He says he did claim the free upgrade to mountain lion, but he also thinks I will also be able to claim the upgrade on the MBA, but use my own Apple ID or something.

I would have thought when he erased his data etc, there would just be a clean version of mountain lion left on it..

Anyone know what the likely case/scenario might be (I know nobody can answer for sure lol - just the likely case please!)?

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Old Nov 30, 2012, 02:36 PM   #2
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I am expecting a delivery of a mid-2012 MBA 11" tomorrow that I purchased from eBay.

The seller says that it will come with Lion on it after he 'completely erased everything'. Is this right?
Yes, Mid-2012 MBAs initially shipped with 10.7.4.

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Old Nov 30, 2012, 02:38 PM   #3
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Yes, Mid-2012 MBAs initially shipped with 10.7.4.

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Thanks yeah I knew that they did - I just thought once you upgrade the OS on that particular machine, it will remain on it, even after wiping/restoring etc.. hmm could be 13.99 upgrade cost for me lol
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Old Nov 30, 2012, 02:51 PM   #4
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Hi guys

I am expecting a delivery of a mid-2012 MBA 11" tomorrow that I purchased from eBay.

The seller says that it will come with Lion on it after he 'completely erased everything'. Is this right? He says he did claim the free upgrade to mountain lion, but he also thinks I will also be able to claim the upgrade on the MBA, but use my own Apple ID or something.

I would have thought when he erased his data etc, there would just be a clean version of mountain lion left on it..

Anyone know what the likely case/scenario might be (I know nobody can answer for sure lol - just the likely case please!)?

Thanks
It depends on how you wipe the machine. If it came with Lion and you install ML, then do a command-r recovery boot to the internal drive you can only format Macintosh HD and reinstall ML because the recovery partition is the ML version. But if you boot from an external drive you can format the entire drive and get back to Lion. It sounds like this is what the seller did.

You will not be entitled to the free ML upgrade on this machine. Gonna have to fork over the pounds.
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Old Nov 30, 2012, 02:54 PM   #5
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The free updates were tied to the Apple ID, although technically the license was only for the serial number of the machine that it was installed on. That said, normally the installation routine for Mountain Lion replaces the restore partition, so there's a chance that with CMD-R you'll be able to reinstall Mountain Lion if it isn't there already.
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Old Nov 30, 2012, 02:57 PM   #6
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It depends on how you wipe the machine. If it came with Lion and you install ML, then do a command-r recovery boot to the internal drive you can only format Macintosh HD and reinstall ML because the recovery partition is the ML version. But if you boot from an external drive you can format the entire drive and get back to Lion. It sounds like this is what the seller did.

You will not be entitled to the free ML upgrade on this machine. Gonna have to fork over the pounds.
Ah interesting - I suppose 13.99 in the grand scheme of things is not the end of the world.

So there definitely is a way to wipe the machine/data, but preserve the new OS for hypothetically a new user/owner to inherit (the command-r route)? I will be selling my rMBP soon you see and would like to keep ML on so the new owner can have it (its a shame my seller did not go to this length lol).
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Old Nov 30, 2012, 03:03 PM   #7
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If it's not there and it's unavailable with the partition restore then contact Apple and they may help you. A friend of mine was able to get a redeem code for ML when it had been claimed by another Apple ID.
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Ah interesting - I suppose 13.99 in the grand scheme of things is not the end of the world.

So there definitely is a way to wipe the machine/data, but preserve the new OS for hypothetically a new user/owner to inherit (the command-r route)? I will be selling my rMBP soon you see and would like to keep ML on so the new owner can have it (its a shame my seller did not go to this length lol).
Yes, if you have ML on your machine just command-r boot and that takes you to the Recovery HD on your internal drive. Start Disk Util and format Macintosh HD then reinstall the OS. This will give you a clean install of Mountain Lion.

Two issues though. Technically ML in this case is licensed to you and it would violate Apple's EULA for you to give it away with the machine. That said, it is pretty much unenforceable from Apple's perspective. Second issue is is the new owner ever had to reinstall the OS for any reason they would be asked for your AppleID before they would be allowed to redownload.

If I was handing it off to a friend or relative, I would be inclined to just leave ML... but if you are selling on eBay or some such I would get it back to the default Lion if that is what it came with just to avoid any hassles with the buyer later.
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Old Nov 30, 2012, 03:10 PM   #9
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Yes, if you have ML on your machine just command-r boot and that takes you to the Recovery HD on your internal drive. Start Disk Util and format Macintosh HD then reinstall the OS. This will give you a clean install of Mountain Lion.

Two issues though. Technically ML in this case is licensed to you and it would violate Apple's EULA for you to give it away with the machine. That said, it is pretty much unenforceable from Apple's perspective. Second issue is is the new owner ever had to reinstall the OS for any reason they would be asked for your AppleID before they would be allowed to redownload.

If I was handing it off to a friend or relative, I would be inclined to just leave ML... but if you are selling on eBay or some such I would get it back to the default Lion if that is what it came with just to avoid any hassles with the buyer later.
Thats a great tip and some great advice thank you.

Hypothetically, as I have a rMBP with ML on it now, is there any way I can get ML off it as a bootable disk/usb drive that I could then install on the MBA, hypothetically?
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Thats a great tip and some great advice thank you.

Hypothetically, as I have a rMBP with ML on it now, is there any way I can get ML off it as a bootable disk/usb drive that I could then install on the MBA, hypothetically?
No. I asked Apple about making a recovery USB and they told me I couldn't do it.
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Thats a great tip and some great advice thank you.

Hypothetically, as I have a rMBP with ML on it now, is there any way I can get ML off it as a bootable disk/usb drive that I could then install on the MBA, hypothetically?
You can't directly make a USB installer from the rMBP OS install, but if you got ML for the rMBP from the App Store you can easily redownload that and make a USB installer.

If you did not get ML for the rMBP from the App Store, but rather it came with it, you can use this process to capture the ML installer and make a USB key.
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Old Nov 30, 2012, 04:34 PM   #12
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You can't directly make a USB installer from the rMBP OS install, but if you got ML for the rMBP from the App Store you can easily redownload that and make a USB installer.

If you did not get ML for the rMBP from the App Store, but rather it came with it, you can use this process to capture the ML installer and make a USB key.
Yes I got it from the App store as I was eligible to upgrade for free to it, having purchased the rMBP before ML was released.

Is there a guide (preferably an idiot's guide!) that shows me how to make a USB installer?

Actually I have just looked at my Mac App store purchase history and I see it there with a download option - incidentally I also see Lion there too from the year before when I purchased that. I wonder if they are there when accessed from another mac then I can just download ML as normal lol, surely not..

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Yes I got it from the App store as I was eligible to upgrade for free to it, having purchased the rMBP before ML was released.

Is there a guide (preferably an idiot's guide!) that shows me how to make a USB installer?

Actually I have just looked at my Mac App store purchase history and I see it there with a download option - incidentally I also see Lion there too from the year before when I purchased that. I wonder if they are there when accessed from another mac then I can just download ML as normal lol, surely not..

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Most painless and simple method: http://blog.gete.net/lion-diskmaker-us/
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