Fast 3G... really fast 3G.

XboxMySocks · Nov 30, 2012, 11:22 PM

Would I not be correct in stating that these are actually far surpassed 3G speeds and are more in the range of LTE speeds?

AlvinNguyen · Nov 30, 2012, 11:24 PM

HSPA+ is still considered 3G

XboxMySocks · Nov 30, 2012, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AlvinNguyen

HSPA+ is still considered 3G

Even HSPA+ isn't 10 MB/s though is it not? We also don't have HSPA+ coverage in our area though

Applejuiced · Nov 30, 2012, 11:26 PM

Yes, its HSPA+
AT&T calls it 4G

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Originally Posted by XboxMySocks

Even HSPA+ isn't 10 MB/s though is it not? We also don't have HSPA+ coverage in our area though

Yes, HSPA+ goes way above 10mbps.
And you do have it in your area or else you wouldnt be getting those speeds.

XboxMySocks · Nov 30, 2012, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Applejuiced

Yes, its HSPA+
AT&T calls it 4G

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Yes, HSPA+ goes way above 10mbps.
And you do have it in your area or else you wouldnt be getting those speeds.

I'm on Rogers however, we don't have HSPA+ just 3G and LTE according to the coverage map

Applejuiced · Nov 30, 2012, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by XboxMySocks

I'm on Rogers however, we don't have HSPA+ just 3G and LTE according to the coverage map

I dont know what that map says bro, check again with rogers.
Those are HSPA+ speeds.

XboxMySocks · Nov 30, 2012, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Applejuiced

I dont know what that map says bro, check again with rogers.
Those are HSPA+ speeds.

Ah alright, thank you

I guess my main confusion is I don't even pay for data but I'm getting it right now

Applejuiced · Nov 30, 2012, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by XboxMySocks

Ah alright, thank you

I guess my main confusion is I don't even pay for data but I'm getting it right now

Nice

You dont have a data plan and you're getting data now?
Just make sure you dont get any surprise phone bills at the end of the month.

XboxMySocks · Nov 30, 2012, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Applejuiced

Nice

You dont have a data plan and you're getting data now?
Just make sure you dont get any surprise phone bills at the end of the month.

Yeah, if that happens I'm going to call and rain hellfire on Rogers HQ

Beeplance · Dec 1, 2012, 04:53 AM

Forget about LTE if you already have 10mbps 3G download speeds. That's already very very fast for a mobile device..

sviato · Dec 1, 2012, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by XboxMySocks

Even HSPA+ isn't 10 MB/s though is it not? We also don't have HSPA+ coverage in our area though

I'm on Rogers' network and get 9-11Mb download speeds regularly. It's HSPA+.

Mercenary · Dec 1, 2012, 07:11 AM

HSPA+ on 3G can actually reach speeds of 28mbps or upto 42mbps if its dual carrier although real world it doesnt reach that.

Here in the UK im on Three and I often get 16mbps on 3G.

4G has the potential to be faster, but in real world terms often misses the mark. It is however a great marketing tool. To the average buyer they can either have 3rd Generation or pay a bit more and get 4th Generation. Ooooooooohhhhh!

BFizzzle · Dec 1, 2012, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by XboxMySocks

Image Would I not be correct in stating that these are actually far surpassed 3G speeds and are more in the range of LTE speeds?

the real difference you will see with LTE vs Fast hspa+ is the upload. I average about 25 mbps on my upload..

RobNor · Dec 1, 2012, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercenary

HSPA+ on 3G can actually reach speeds of 28mbps or upto 42mbps if its dual carrier although real world it doesnt reach that.

Here in the UK im on Three and I often get 16mbps on 3G.

4G has the potential to be faster, but in real world terms often misses the mark. It is however a great marketing tool. To the average buyer they can either have 3rd Generation or pay a bit more and get 4th Generation. Ooooooooohhhhh!

I'm also on Three and have managed to get 20mbps down

tymaster50 · Dec 1, 2012, 08:03 AM

yeah if you have those speeds you don't even need LTE

XboxMySocks · Dec 1, 2012, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BFizzzle

the real difference you will see with LTE vs Fast hspa+ is the upload. I average about 25 mbps on my upload..

Ah okay. Thanks a lot dude

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Originally Posted by tymaster50

yeah if you have those speeds you don't even need LTE

Haha, I know right? I was very impressed

BFizzzle · Dec 1, 2012, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by XboxMySocks

Ah okay. Thanks a lot dude

Haha, I know right? I was very impressed

thats great speeds though! more than enough for a phone.

walie · Dec 1, 2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by XboxMySocks

Yeah, if that happens I'm going to call and rain hellfire on Rogers HQ

Don't see the logic in this. You willingly used data. Pay for it.

BFizzzle · Dec 1, 2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by walie

Don't see the logic in this. You willingly used data. Pay for it.

yeah not sure on the laws in Canada but usa uk, aus etc.. its called Passive theft and you are liable to pay for it.

OP i'd call them and say "it appearntly has been on 3G.. and my device is suppose to be wifi only etc.. i thought it was on wifi." they might not charge you.. but if you continue to use it they will know it was not on accident.

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Ah okay. Thanks a lot dude

Haha, I know right? I was very impressed

^^^^^

zildMacjian · Dec 1, 2012, 10:28 AM

thats so slow !

deannnnn · Dec 1, 2012, 10:48 AM

Yeah this is all based on confusion started by T-Mobile USA referring to HSPA+ as 4G. AT&T then had to follow suit since they were offering the exact same services, but T-Mobile's sounded better since they were incorrectly referring to them as 4G.

So now some carriers call HSPA+ 4G and some call it 3G but regardless, it's all the same thing, and is capable of some crazy fast speeds.

Beeplance · Dec 1, 2012, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by zildMacjian

thats so slow !

Wut? It's fast, yours is just faster -.-

utahusker · Dec 1, 2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by walie

Don't see the logic in this. You willingly used data. Pay for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFizzzle

yeah not sure on the laws in Canada but usa uk, aus etc.. its called Passive theft and you are liable to pay for it.

OP i'd call them and say "it appearntly has been on 3G.. and my device is suppose to be wifi only etc.. i thought it was on wifi." they might not charge you.. but if you continue to use it they will know it was not on accident.

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^^^^^

Nooooo! Not again, this thread may get closed once the right/not right argument starts.

zildMacjian · Dec 1, 2012, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Beeplance

Wut? It's fast, yours is just faster -.-

it was a joke.

BFizzzle · Dec 1, 2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by utahusker

Nooooo! Not again, this thread may get closed once the right/not right argument starts.

hehe

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Beeplance macrumors 65816 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Singapore	Forget about LTE if you already have 10mbps 3G download speeds. That's already very very fast for a mobile device..
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Mercenary macrumors regular Join Date: Sep 2012	HSPA+ on 3G can actually reach speeds of 28mbps or upto 42mbps if its dual carrier although real world it doesnt reach that. Here in the UK im on Three and I often get 16mbps on 3G. 4G has the potential to be faster, but in real world terms often misses the mark. It is however a great marketing tool. To the average buyer they can either have 3rd Generation or pay a bit more and get 4th Generation. Ooooooooohhhhh!
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Dec 1, 2012, 08:03 AM	#15
tymaster50 macrumors 68000 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: New Jersey	yeah if you have those speeds you don't even need LTE
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