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Old Dec 4, 2012, 04:45 PM   #1
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Do you think the iPhone 4 will get iOS7?

The way apple handled the iOS 6 update has left me wondering if the iPhone 4 will get iOS7. Historically, the iPhone gets two updates after it's release. But with iOS 6, there was an exception, which I think many were rather surprised by at the time.

iPhone 2g: Shipped with iOS 1 and was updated to iOS 2 and 3.
iPhone 3g: Shipped with iOS 2 and was updated to iOS 3 and 4
iPhone 3gs: Shipped with iOS 3 and was updated to iOS 4, iOS 5, AND iOS 6.
iPhone 4: Shipped with iOS 4 and was updated to iOS 5, and 6. iOS 7?
iPhone 4s: Shipped with iOS 5 and was updated to iOS 6 and will almost surely be updated to iOS 7.
iPhone 5: Shipped with iOS 6...

The lack of features in the iOS 6 update for the iPhone 4 makes me think the answer is no.

What do you all think?
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 04:51 PM   #2
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The way apple handled the iOS 6 update has left me wondering if the iPhone 4 will get iOS7. Historically, the iPhone gets two updates after it's release. But with iOS 6, there was an exception, which I think many were rather surprised by at the time.

iPhone 2g: Shipped with iOS 1 and was updated to iOS 2 and 3.
iPhone 3g: Shipped with iOS 2 and was updated to iOS 3 and 4
iPhone 3gs: Shipped with iOS 3 and was updated to iOS 4, iOS 5, AND iOS 6.
iPhone 4: Shipped with iOS 4 and was updated to iOS 5, and 6. iOS 7?
iPhone 4s: Shipped with iOS 5 and was updated to iOS 6 and will almost surely be updated to iOS 7.
iPhone 5: Shipped with iOS 6...

The lack of features in the iOS 6 update for the iPhone 4 makes me think the answer is no.

What do you all think?
It's pretty obvious it will. the 3GS got iOS 6 and the 4 has better tech than it but then they will kill it off.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 04:54 PM   #3
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It's pretty obvious it will. the 3GS got iOS 6 and the 4 has better tech than it but then they will kill it off.
Other than the bump in ram and screen resolution the cpu and gpu are essentially the same in the 3gs and 4.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 05:05 PM   #4
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Other than the bump in ram and screen resolution the cpu and gpu are essentially the same in the 3gs and 4.
^^Correct
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 05:10 PM   #5
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 05:13 PM   #6
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Other than the bump in ram and screen resolution the cpu and gpu are essentially the same in the 3gs and 4.
I think it will be updated to iOS 7. The iPhone 4 runs perfectly on iOS 6. They will most likely hold back more features.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 07:12 PM   #7
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Can't say anything for sure, and no one can confirm anything. But since Apple is currently selling the iPhone 4 right now, it makes sense for them to support iOS 7, although I think many features will not be available.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 07:17 PM   #8
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But it's also facetime camera, better sound cards/chips and other technologies. If you pick up a 4, it's much faster then a 3GS even though the screen res is higher.

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Old Dec 4, 2012, 07:24 PM   #9
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But it's also facetime camera, better sound cards/chips and other technologies. If you pick up a 4, it's much faster then a 3GS even though the screen res is higher.
I don't think its MUCH faster. From what I saw from the iPhone 4 users around me, its only a second or two faster, not night and day difference. Speed bump is mostly due to the 256 vs 512 MB RAM difference.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 07:30 PM   #10
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Yeah but the 4s is only a second or two faster than the 4, and the 5 is only a second or two faster than the 4s. So that second or two seems to make a big difference whether apple will support iOS 7 on the 4.

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I don't think its MUCH faster. From what I saw from the iPhone 4 users around me, its only a second or two faster, not night and day difference. Speed bump is mostly due to the 256 vs 512 MB RAM difference.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 07:32 PM   #11
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Other than the bump in ram and screen resolution the cpu and gpu are essentially the same in the 3gs and 4.
The processor has a higher clock-speed and double the RAM so I wouldn't say they're essentially the same.
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I don't think its MUCH faster. From what I saw from the iPhone 4 users around me, its only a second or two faster, not night and day difference. Speed bump is mostly due to the 256 vs 512 MB RAM difference.
The 4 has a different processor then the 3GS as well.
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The 4 has a different processor then the 3GS as well.
both run the ARM cortex A8. The 4 is just clocked 200mhz higher.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 10:22 PM   #14
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I think by iOS 7 iPhone sales will soften a just a bit. In turn the iPhone 4 will not get the upgrade, in order to stimulate more phone sales. Apple is the master of marketing & control. They always keep it moving in their favor.
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both run the ARM cortex A8. The 4 is just clocked 200mhz higher.
Exactly. What's more, the iPhone 4 needs to push 4 times the amount of pixels, so it may be abut taxing for the processor. My 3GS is still running decently on iOS 6.
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Other than the bump in ram and screen resolution the cpu and gpu are essentially the same in the 3gs and 4.
Yes. The biggest difference between the 4 and the 3GS (internally) is the doubled RAM and the retina display.
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both run the ARM cortex A8. The 4 is just clocked 200mhz higher.
Right but just because its the same architecture does not mean its the same processor. The 3GS does not Have the A4 Chip which has many differences.

Thats like saying that the i3 and the i7 processors are the same chip because they are both based on the Haswell architecture.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 11:13 PM   #18
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yes. If the 3GS is on iOS 6, the 4 should support iOS 7.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 11:22 PM   #19
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Actually an old 3G of mine also gets ios 5.1 if you cared to add that to your list.
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Old Dec 4, 2012, 11:26 PM   #20
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I think the ip4 will support ios7 👍. However it may be best to stick with ios6 on it 😁. The reason I say this is because of the ip3g had io4 support but it was horrendous because ios4 brought multitasking,and we all know the ip3g did not have enough ram for that 😐. So ios7 might bring something to the table that prevents the ip4 from being fully functional on it 👎. This is all speculation though we will have to wait and see 😜.
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I think technology has little to do with it. The original iPhone and iPhone 3G had the same CPU and GPU, but the original iPhone was dropped first.

Apple's strategy for the lower end of the market is to sell (and support) older devices alongside the current gen model.

They can't really do that if they drop support for a device before most people's 24 month contract (which in most countries is the longest a contract will be) is up.

The iPhone 3GS was discontinued in September, but it's still being updated because people could have bought it new only two months ago.

I expect the same will happen with the iPhone 4 (and then the 4S and so on).
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 12:49 AM   #22
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 12:58 AM   #23
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Right but just because its the same architecture does not mean its the same processor. The 3GS does not Have the A4 Chip which has many differences.

Thats like saying that the i3 and the i7 processors are the same chip because they are both based on the Haswell architecture.
Don't get fooled by marketing. Its the same chip. The A4 just puts the proc and gpu on the same die. BFD.

The CPU and GPU in the 4 and 3GS are identical. The 4 and 3GS are equally capable, and will be EOL at the same time - before iOS7.
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 02:26 AM   #24
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The 4 is still being sold, so yes, it will get iOS 7.
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it's also facetime camera, better sound cards
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