Apple's Removes Mentions of Safari for Windows, But Version 5.1.7 Still Available For Now [Updated]

MacRumors · Jul 25, 2012, 10:42 AM

With today's release of Safari 6, there has been some confusion over the fate of Safari for Windows. Apple's Safari download page that previously allowed users to download versions for Mac or Windows now redirects to the main Safari page highlighting Safari 6 for Mac, with no mention of Safari for Windows anywhere in Apple's revamped Safari feature pages.

But while Safari for Windows has not been upgraded to version 6 and thus has not received the many new features included for Mac in that release, Apple does appear to be planning to continue quietly offering Safari for Windows. Listings for Safari updates in Apple's support download pages had previously summarized all available Mac and Windows version and provided a link to the general download page, but Apple has now placed Safari for Windows on a dedicated page linking directly to the download.

Safari for Windows remains at version 5.1.7 initially released alongside OS X 10.7.4 in early May. The software is clearly not a high priority for Apple, as evidenced by the removal of all mentions of the Windows option from the main Safari product pages, but the company is keeping the most recent version available for download. It is unclear, however, whether Apple has plans to bring additional feature updates to the browser.

Update: Apple has pulled the standalone Safari 5.1.7 for Windows download page, redirecting visitors to the previous version that links to the now-discontinued general Safari download page. As a result, it appears that Safari for Windows is now not directly linked anywhere in Apple's official download pages.

Article Link: Apple's Removes Mentions of Safari for Windows, But Version 5.1.7 Still Available For Now [Updated]

Summersify · Jul 25, 2012, 10:46 AM

I guess Safari 6 was just too snappy for Windows machines to run...

Hastings101 · Jul 25, 2012, 10:47 AM

Probably because all the Windows Safari users switched to Chrome

Consultant · Jul 25, 2012, 10:49 AM

I like Safari for Windows. Works great in bootcamp.

Hopefully it will be updated.

MonkeySee.... · Jul 25, 2012, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Consultant

I like Safari for Windows. Works great in bootcamp.

Hopefully it will be updated.

I like it too. For some reason though it keeps crashing and windows shuts it down. I've even disabled all extensions.

KnightWRX · Jul 25, 2012, 10:56 AM

With Chrome providing a leading browser on Windows that uses Webkit and Apple's awful UI integration on Windows, is it any surprise the product never really took off ? Apple really pushes for developers to respect OS X's HIG, yet they completely fail to follow Microsoft's when porting their software to Windows.

aross99 · Jul 25, 2012, 10:56 AM

I have been using it at work for some time - I like the consistency when using Windows...

Hope it continues to be updated...

hobo.hopkins · Jul 25, 2012, 10:57 AM

I can see why it wouldn't be a priority for Apple. Would be somewhat sad to see it go however.

astrorider · Jul 25, 2012, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnightWRX

With Chrome providing a leading browser on Windows that uses Webkit and Apple's awful UI integration on Windows, is it any surprise the product never really took off ? Apple really pushes for developers to respect OS X's HIG, yet they completely fail to follow Microsoft's when porting their software to Windows.

There's a Windows HIG?

guzhogi · Jul 25, 2012, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnightWRX

With Chrome providing a leading browser on Windows that uses Webkit and Apple's awful UI integration on Windows, is it any surprise the product never really took off ? Apple really pushes for developers to respect OS X's HIG, yet they completely fail to follow Microsoft's when porting their software to Windows.

Apple fails in some of its own Mac OS X apps for HIGs. Look at Calendar, Address Book & App Store. Calendar & Address have totally custom GUIs, while the stoplight buttons in App Store aren't in the same place as other apps.

voyagerd · Jul 25, 2012, 11:02 AM

This is what I use at work!

ChazUK · Jul 25, 2012, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrorider

There's a Windows HIG?

Why yes..... Yes there is!

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr.../aa511258.aspx

NIKKG · Jul 25, 2012, 11:03 AM

Chrome is where the action is these days...

astrorider · 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChazUK

Why yes..... Yes there is!

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr.../aa511258.aspx

That's funny...try opening the PDF in OS X Preview and see what you get

bartszyszka · Jul 25, 2012, 11:10 AM

Maybe they don't want people to download the old version until the new one is ready? Their Safari page is going to get a lot of traffic today?

dashiel · Jul 25, 2012, 11:11 AM

I would guess Apple released Safari for Windows in order to spur on adoption of advanced web technologies, Mozilla was moving too slowly with only IE as competition. With Chrome continuing to grab market share and WebKit browsers being utterly dominant in mobile it’s a case of “job done”.

Mozilla started the fight, WebKit (Safari) added fuel to the fire, Chrome basically forced Microsoft to make IE a great browser.

Rocketman · Jul 25, 2012, 11:11 AM

Windows 8 has a very high degree of hardware acceleration. I suspect Apple is doing a major revision for W8 of both Safari and iTunes.

Wouldn't it be weird if Apple made an appstore for W8 to incidiously capture more Wintel users by having a constant reminder some things work on both platforms, but more capabilities exist on the other.

Devices are becoming increasingly commodotized, and ecosystems are becoming increasingly important.

I concur with webkit job done. Apple typically does not declare success, they just move on and eat their young by making the next thing. About 1/4-1/3 of those initiatives take in a major way. Lots of scrap on Apple's floor.

Apple could really use a legacy department for successful initiatives.

Rocketman

KnightWRX · Jul 25, 2012, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChazUK

Why yes..... Yes there is!

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr.../aa511258.aspx

And let's for a moment even think there wasn't any HIG, just the plain fact that Apple doesn't use the OS's built-in UI widgets is just wrong to begin with. Just like GTK apps look and behave badly on OS X, OS X widgets behave and look badly on Windows.

Simon86 · 11:22 AM

There is NO download link for Safari for Windows

The "dedicated" Safari for Windows download page has been there since May 9th, 2012 - and the download button now redirects to the main page for OS X Safari.

A Hebrew · Jul 25, 2012, 11:12 AM

.01% of Windows users are going to be really disappointed about this.

smoledman · Jul 25, 2012, 11:13 AM

LOL - as if anyone ever used it on Windows. Apple software on Windows(Safari, Quicktime, iTunes) is horrible bloatware.

davebarnes · Jul 25, 2012, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrorider

That's funny...try opening the PDF in OS X Preview and see what you get

Opens fine using Acrobat Pro 8.

steve-p · Jul 25, 2012, 11:17 AM

Those of us who use Safari on both Windows and OS X all day every day will be a bit disappointed if they drop it. I would switch back to Firefox.

Apple Key · Jul 25, 2012, 11:19 AM

What's next? iTunes?

But seriously, I like Safari for windows. Although I much prefer Safari on the Mac.

diamond.g · Jul 25, 2012, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apple Key

What's next? iTunes?

But seriously, I like Safari for windows. Although I much prefer Safari on the Mac.

That would be a great experiment. Apple not release iTunes for Windows. At this point supposedly they don't even need Windows since you can set up iDevices OTA now.

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MacRumors macrumors bot Join Date: Apr 2001	Apple's Removes Mentions of Safari for Windows, But Version 5.1.7 Still Available For Now [Updated] With today's release of Safari 6, there has been some confusion over the fate of Safari for Windows. Apple's Safari download page that previously allowed users to download versions for Mac or Windows now redirects to the main Safari page highlighting Safari 6 for Mac, with no mention of Safari for Windows anywhere in Apple's revamped Safari feature pages. But while Safari for Windows has not been upgraded to version 6 and thus has not received the many new features included for Mac in that release, Apple does appear to be planning to continue quietly offering Safari for Windows. Listings for Safari updates in Apple's support download pages had previously summarized all available Mac and Windows version and provided a link to the general download page, but Apple has now placed Safari for Windows on a dedicated page linking directly to the download. Safari for Windows remains at version 5.1.7 initially released alongside OS X 10.7.4 in early May. The software is clearly not a high priority for Apple, as evidenced by the removal of all mentions of the Windows option from the main Safari product pages, but the company is keeping the most recent version available for download. It is unclear, however, whether Apple has plans to bring additional feature updates to the browser. Update: Apple has pulled the standalone Safari 5.1.7 for Windows download page, redirecting visitors to the previous version that links to the now-discontinued general Safari download page. As a result, it appears that Safari for Windows is now not directly linked anywhere in Apple's official download pages. Article Link: Apple's Removes Mentions of Safari for Windows, But Version 5.1.7 Still Available For Now [Updated]
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bartszyszka macrumors newbie Join Date: Dec 2004	Maybe they don't want people to download the old version until the new one is ready? Their Safari page is going to get a lot of traffic today?
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Rocketman macrumors 601 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Claremont, CA	Windows 8 has a very high degree of hardware acceleration. I suspect Apple is doing a major revision for W8 of both Safari and iTunes. Wouldn't it be weird if Apple made an appstore for W8 to incidiously capture more Wintel users by having a constant reminder some things work on both platforms, but more capabilities exist on the other. Devices are becoming increasingly commodotized, and ecosystems are becoming increasingly important. I concur with webkit job done. Apple typically does not declare success, they just move on and eat their young by making the next thing. About 1/4-1/3 of those initiatives take in a major way. Lots of scrap on Apple's floor. Apple could really use a legacy department for successful initiatives. Rocketman __________________ Think Different-ly! The President campaigned against Congress. D Sen is led by D Sen ML Reid and D VP and Sen Pres Biden, under orders of D Pres Obama. http://www.gop.gov/indepth/jobs/tracker
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Simon86 macrumors member Join Date: Sep 2011	There is NO download link for Safari for Windows The "dedicated" Safari for Windows download page has been there since May 9th, 2012 - and the download button now redirects to the main page for OS X Safari. Last edited by Simon86; Jul 25, 2012 at 11:22 AM.
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A Hebrew macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Minnesota	.01% of Windows users are going to be really disappointed about this.
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Jul 25, 2012, 11:17 AM	#23
steve-p macrumors 65816 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Newbury, UK	Those of us who use Safari on both Windows and OS X all day every day will be a bit disappointed if they drop it. I would switch back to Firefox.
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