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Old Dec 6, 2012, 02:34 PM   #126
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If I were an investor I'd start tossing money into a company that makes aluminum in the U.S.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 02:57 PM   #127
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As long as they dont stick the prices up to cover it I'm fine with that.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 04:20 PM   #128
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Never as the question "what would steve have done?"

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Old Dec 6, 2012, 04:24 PM   #129
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This is a move in the right direction. How Apple does will remain to be seen.

Challenged by variable quality control in their current operations, it would be a very welcome move to see it improved.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 04:30 PM   #130
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Ironic...

Ironic how this news exactly preceded Apple's largest single-day stock valuation loss in history. Investors are clearly freaking-out: "OMG! Apple is going to unionize and production costs will go up ten-fold! Sell! Sell! Sell!" In a free market economy everything has a cost.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 04:58 PM   #131
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It would have to be a smaller scale product, if it were exclusively manufactured in the US, so I'm guessing Mac Pro.
It will be highly automated and of big scale - else it wouldn't be profitable for Apple to produce in the U.S. from my point of view. Maybe the Macbook or iMac/Mac Pro lines - iPhones and iPads are too complicated to be assembled automatically as we have learned.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 05:07 PM   #132
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As long as they dont stick the prices up to cover it I'm fine with that.
good luck with that.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 05:17 PM   #133
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TV's, thinner iMac's, more iPad's, integrated Intel graphics in most Mac systems, iMac's using mobile HDD's again, only one 27" stripped down iMac LED LCD panel offered as a display, no Mac Pro update(s), iWork '09 remaining untouched aside from iOS updates, iLife '11 remained untouched aside from iOS updates - oh, and prices remain the same or higher even though some products are losing features such as ODD's and increased use of integrated Intel graphics to "slim" systems. Yet, a TV, yes, THAT'S important.

Gone are the days when high quality displays in 30", 23" and 20" were offered (choice, what a novel idea) and replaced with an over priced 27" iMac display with cables too short to reach the Mac Pro. Let's not forget the PowerMac G5, starting at $1999, and well equipped, which was replaced with the Intel Mac Pro, starting at $2499, and not well equipped. Sigh.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 05:59 PM   #134
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That is funny, but I'd do the same if I were them. The US government has shown with things like stuxnet and flame that they can be VERY aggressive and invasive with cyber intelligence and even outright sabotage.
It was FEDGOV that disclosed sources and methods by expressing concern for Chinese manufactured units with no known examples of back doors because all the chip masks are designed in the USA. All the back doors we carefully installed for years became instantly useless. FEDGOV is objectively stupid on security and economics. The private sector should simply take over most of its functions. Okay to receive finance from the Fed for the transition.

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Old Dec 6, 2012, 06:22 PM   #135
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"Tim Cook announced one of the existing Mac lines will be manufactured exclusively in the United States next year."
"Apple is spending about $100 million on the effort."

For that small amount of money is has to be the Mac Pro. The smaller number of machines sold would be a good test for this in the USA.
I would bet you are correct. A major reason would also be the comparative ease of assembly. Workers need less expertise. Compare the insides of an iMac to a Mac Pro. I'm up for assembling my own Mac Pro. Send me a box of parts with instructions and I'm good to go.

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TV's, thinner iMac's, more iPad's, integrated Intel graphics in most Mac systems, iMac's using mobile HDD's again, only one 27" stripped down iMac LED LCD panel offered as a display, no Mac Pro update(s), iWork '09 remaining untouched aside from iOS updates, iLife '11 remained untouched aside from iOS updates - oh, and prices remain the same or higher even though some products are losing features such as ODD's and increased use of integrated Intel graphics to "slim" systems. Yet, a TV, yes, THAT'S important.

Gone are the days when high quality displays in 30", 23" and 20" were offered (choice, what a novel idea) and replaced with an over priced 27" iMac display with cables too short to reach the Mac Pro. Let's not forget the PowerMac G5, starting at $1999, and well equipped, which was replaced with the Intel Mac Pro, starting at $2499, and not well equipped. Sigh.
Before we breathe that final sigh of sorrow, lets wait and see what the new Mac Pro has to offer early next year. Besides, you are too young for nostalgic regret.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 06:59 PM   #136
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As we´ve all seen, some of the current crop of new iMacs have been assembled in USA so it is very probable that the iMac is the line that will be produced in the U.S.
Yes, but where are these "Pop Up Mac's" being assembled?

I'm going with N. Carolina.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 06:59 PM   #137
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Free trade agreements with other countries was a bad idea for the US to do. You cannot compete with slave labor. I can see components being made in china but should be at least assembled in the US to help both countries and keep costs down. Still think this plan is a back room deal with our government and apple to let apple bring back billions made over seas at a less tax rate in exchange for a promise to creat jobs in america. I'll believe it when I read about this effort if it actually creates allot of jobs. I doubt it though.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 07:42 PM   #138
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I dunno I can't get Tim C, there isn't the passion or big picture. he talks in such a false way..
I doubt very much he has the US or the Mac in his high priority list..(especially Logic)
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 08:05 PM   #139
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I heard that the Mac Pro was manufactured in Ireland. Is this true? If that is in fact the case, it is a shame that they could possibly be pulling it from them. I'd much rather see them bring something else stateside from China or Brazil.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 08:14 PM   #140
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Your going to do something right Apple! America is in as much of a mess as everyone else so you should bring jobs and investment back to your own country!
I bet they make the new Mac Pro in America. Lets hope they don't spread their intense fascination with making everything with glue to the new Pros eh
It would be a nice buy the new iMac 27" if you didn't need a heat gun and guitar picks just to install your own SSD!
It's like, new iPhone 5 and it's the easiest and most repairable yet, in contrast everything else we make is the hardest to repair and upgrade they have ever been all by design.....

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I heard that the Mac Pro was manufactured in Ireland. Is this true? If that is in fact the case, it is a shame that they could possibly be pulling it from them. I'd much rather see them bring something else stateside from China or Brazil.
?????? I thought they yanked all operations from Ireland years ago?
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 08:32 PM   #141
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It would have to be a smaller scale product, if it were exclusively manufactured in the US, so I'm guessing Mac Pro.
The Mac Pro actually accounts for about 92% of Apple's gross margins. Not many people know this, but it's their #1 seller; nearly every University has literally thousands of Mac Pros, and every Supercomputer in the world made after 2003 is either comprised by Mac Pros, or G5s.

Also, all smart people have at least one in their home.

Of course, if you deny this, you'll just be proving to all of us that you're not smart.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 08:34 PM   #142
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Well Apple, if you love education as much as you say you do, why not put some of that huge pile of money you have back into the education system?
APPLE is certainly trying hard enough to get iPads in every classroom. Add to that, their effort to revolutionize textbooks, and you can't really say they're not trying. I know, I know, those aren't totally altruistic motives but even though APPLE would benefit from a better educated and more skilled workforce, you can't possibly mean that they are now responsible to some degree, for educating our children.

Or, if you're talking about retraining displaced American workers, same deal.
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and every Supercomputer in the world made after 2003 is either comprised by Mac Pros, or G5s.
And what makes you think that then???............
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 08:34 PM   #144
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TV's, thinner iMac's, more iPad's, integrated Intel graphics in most Mac systems, iMac's using mobile HDD's again, only one 27" stripped down iMac LED LCD panel offered as a display, no Mac Pro update(s), iWork '09 remaining untouched aside from iOS updates, iLife '11 remained untouched aside from iOS updates - oh, and prices remain the same or higher even though some products are losing features such as ODD's and increased use of integrated Intel graphics to "slim" systems. Yet, a TV, yes, THAT'S important.

Gone are the days when high quality displays in 30", 23" and 20" were offered (choice, what a novel idea) and replaced with an over priced 27" iMac display with cables too short to reach the Mac Pro. Let's not forget the PowerMac G5, starting at $1999, and well equipped, which was replaced with the Intel Mac Pro, starting at $2499, and not well equipped. Sigh.
A "rea|" MP really starts at around $4,000+.... PM G5s started@$1699. But agreed
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 11:06 PM   #145
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And what makes you think that then???............
You might want to check whether your sarcasm detector is plugged in.
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Old Dec 6, 2012, 11:33 PM   #146
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The Mac Pro actually accounts for about 92% of Apple's gross margins. Not many people know this, but it's their #1 seller; nearly every University has literally thousands of Mac Pros, and every Supercomputer in the world made after 2003 is either comprised by Mac Pros, or G5s.

Also, all smart people have at least one in their home.

Of course, if you deny this, you'll just be proving to all of us that you're not smart.
Agree 100%. Of course I do have two Mac Pro's in my home. So it would appear that I am twice as smart as everyone else. Seems logical enough.
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You might want to check whether your sarcasm detector is plugged in.
It's late, I'm too tired to read sarcasm... but I see what you mean...
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Old Dec 7, 2012, 01:09 AM   #148
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As we´ve all seen, some of the current crop of new iMacs have been assembled in USA so it is very probable that the iMac is the line that will be produced in the U.S.
I think that they have dropped volume enough they will just ship parts here and assemble right next to the UPS truck. Kind of what Dell did in the early days. I can't see them building circuit boards here, or parts here.... They probably are pretty close to that with repair depots and Genius Bar already... There's no reason you shouldn't be able to get any Mac desktop configuration next day overnight... There aren't that many options any more. The supply chain already delivers to stores daily. Just leave some boxes half finished with pre-tested parts ready to go.
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Old Dec 7, 2012, 07:42 AM   #149
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Wont his be a bad things for the products? American made things dont have the best reputation. Take American cars for example they are a laughing stock.
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Old Dec 7, 2012, 11:28 AM   #150
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And so it's nearly here, crunch-time. Remember all those capitalist drones & globalisation freaks who so very recently said that an iPhone/Apple product made in America would be 10 times more expensive than a Chinese made one? Remember the "facts" of $5,000 & $10,000 that these Reaganites, Sakozians, Thatcherites puked out?

The jury is very nearly in mes amis.
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