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Old Dec 5, 2012, 08:27 AM   #1
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Google Chairman Eric Schmidt Says Apple and Google Will Resolve Issues 'the Adult Way'




Google Executive Chairman and former CEO Eric Schmidt recently sat down for a wide-ranging interview (subscription required) with The Wall Street Journal and in addressing his company's relationship with Apple noted that the two companies would resolve their issues like adults. He said that while explaining Apple and Google's relationship over the past year, which has included Apple taking Google Maps and YouTube out of iOS.
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It's always been on and off. Obviously, we would have preferred them to use our maps. They threw YouTube off the home screen [of iPhones and iPads]. I'm not quite sure why they did that.

The press would like to write the sort of teenage model of competition, which is, 'I have a gun, you have a gun, who shoots first?'

The adult way to run a business is to run it more like a country. They have disputes, yet they've actually been able to have huge trade with each other. They're not sending bombs at each other.

I think both Tim [Cook, Apple's CEO] and Larry [Page, Google's CEO], the sort of successors to Steve [Jobs] and me if you will, have an understanding of this state model. When they and their teams meet, they have just a long list of things to talk about.
Schmidt went on to note that Apple and Google talk about patent litigation and how Apple is currently embroiled in legal drama with Google's Android partners rather than Google itself. He also noted that the litigation would continue for "a while" and that the big loser is not Apple or Google, but a smaller company trying to get an operating system off the ground as they wouldn't have the necessary patent coverage.

Recently, Google updated its Search app to include its Siri competitor. Schmidt tells The Wall Street Journal that Google does, in fact, list Siri as an example of the future "non-conforming to the Web" competition. Google also has Safari-competitor Chrome available in the App Store and is reportedly moving closer to submitting Google Maps for iOS.

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Old Dec 5, 2012, 08:29 AM   #2
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Theft is still theft, Eric.
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 08:36 AM   #6
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adult way = "thermonuclear war"...?
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Old Dec 5, 2012, 08:37 AM   #7
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Play Nice!

Wouldn't it be nice if all these cell phone makers (etc) would get together and play nice and share ideas that we all could profit from while they also each make their own profits from utilizing each other's shared patients?
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Apple had a contract with Google. Contract ended. Apple didn't renew.

I think Google thought that Apple would 'come to their senses' - figure out that Maps and YouTube were needed, and renew at the 11th hour. Google bet all their chips that this would happen. It didn't. Google had to scramble, and is now blaming Apple for Google not having a backup plan.

Google has the best products, but they had a snobby attitude that Apple would continue to use their products. It bit them in the arse when Apple decided to compete with Google.

Now Eric Schmidt is trying to save face by spinning this.
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Theft is still theft, Eric.
Saying that Google stole Apple's ideas for Android is like saying that the second car maker to come along stole the first one's ideas by using wheels and seats.

Things like touch scrolling, icons, etc. were the natural progression of cel phones in general. Not to mention, Apple has copied their share of features, too, like the notification center.
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Apple had a contract with Google. Contract ended. Apple didn't renew.
Are you talking about the maps contract which reportedly had a year left on it when iOS 6 came out?
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Saying that Google stole Apple's ideas for Android is like saying that the second car maker to come along stole the first one's ideas by using wheels and seats.

Things like touch scrolling, icons, etc. were the natural progression of cel phones in general. Not to mention, Apple has copied their share of features, too, like the notification center.
Ok guys new Drinking game!

When someone mentions "Notification centre" when talking about iOS vs Android you have to take a chug.
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Ok guys new Drinking game!

When someone mentions "Notification centre" when talking about iOS vs Android you have to take a chug.
*chug*

Doesn't make it any less true though.
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Are you talking about the maps contract which reportedly had a year left on it when iOS 6 came out?
It's more complicated than that.

Google refused to license turn-by-turn directions to Apple.
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Does that mean they are just gonna rough each other up and knock one out together? That'd be adult.
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Saying that Google stole Apple's ideas for Android is like saying that the second car maker to come along stole the first one's ideas by using wheels and seats.

Things like touch scrolling, icons, etc. were the natural progression of cel phones in general.
"Natural progression" = stuff they didn't think of, but that they decided to rip off instead of licensing?
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two companies would resolve their issues like adults.
You mean they're going to post embarrassing photos of each other on Facebook, make a bunch of nested Demotivator memes against each other, then have the equivalent of a hissy screaming match on an forum board.
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*chug*

Doesn't make it any less true though.
Which doesn't make it any more valid. Did Google bother to patent their "Notification center" idea? If not, then anybody bringing that subject up as an argument is full of baloney, to put it very nicely.
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"Natural progression" = stuff they didn't think of, but that they decided to rip off instead of licensing?
What exactly does Google need to licence out of interest?

I'm unaware of Google being found guilty of infringing on any of Apple's patents directly thus far.

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Which doesn't make it any more valid. Did Google bother to patent their "Notification center" idea? If not, then anybody bringing that subject up as an argument is full of baloney, to put it very nicely.
It's under review AFAIK.

http://www.google.com/patents/US20090249247
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The "adult way"? The "adult way" would have been to NOT STEAL from Apple when you were a mole on Apple's board, Eric.
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The "adult way"? The "adult way" would have been to NOT STEAL from Apple when you were a mole on Apple's board, Eric.
This. In spades.
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