Samsung's New Strategy Chief an Apple User, Cites Ecosystem Benefits and 'Stickiness' - Page 2

Thunderhawks · Dec 13, 2012, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 2bikes

So he doesn't copy Apple?

CloudSUNG and SUNGtunes

only a few months away.

Plus the new iCopy Apple TV when it's ready.

macs4nw · Dec 13, 2012, 10:05 AM

Using those is one thing, but going around and boasting about it, is another. Wonder what his superiors are thinking about that.

As for his view for "Samsung needing to move beyond its current device-centric model and work with partners to embrace a model of an open ecosystem to provide a quality user experience", that's a lofty goal, but with too many partners 'doing their own thing', it can never be as seamless as a tightly controlled ecosystem such as APPLE's. He's obviously smart (and brave) though.

2bikes · Dec 13, 2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunderhawks

CloudSUNG and SUNGtunes

only a few months away.

Plus the new iCopy Apple TV when it's ready.

It`s more like S-tunes, S-cloud. Replacing i with S is much easier than trying to find original names.

dalbir4444 · Dec 13, 2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KirkL

Hmm...I wonder if there are any Apple execs who use Samsung products

I'm sure many have Samsung TVs or fridges.

Small White Car · Dec 13, 2012, 10:12 AM

Samsung is currently the thorn in Apple's side, but honestly I think both Microsoft and Google have a lot to worry about. This is a company with large plans, I think.

dalbir4444 · Dec 13, 2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HishamAkhtar

Apple should make an ad.

Are you really so sensitive about commercials?

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Originally Posted by mw360

Samsung Galaxy OS coming soon....

They already had an OS prior to Android called Bada. It didn't really pick up but last I checked it was still more popular than Windows Phone 7.

croooow · Dec 13, 2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 2bikes

So he doesn't copy Apple?

He copied Apple too well, even he cannot tell the difference!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KirkL

Hmm...I wonder if there are any Apple execs who use Samsung products

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalbir4444

I'm sure many have Samsung TVs or fridges.

I bet they use them while working/testing the

TV (not the rumored Television, but the hockey puck set top box)

notjustjay · Dec 13, 2012, 10:20 AM

Seriously, guys?

C'mon. I'm pretty sure you could ask ANY tech-savvy person, what is it that people like about Apple? And the answer will be the same. "Well, Apple devices might not be top-of-the-line hardware, but they are easy to use, and it's the entire Apple ecosystem that appeals more so than the individual hardware."

It's not like this is some big secret! Oh noes, the Samsung folks have figured it out! Now they will copy it!

This has ALWAYS been Apple's strength. And it's a GOOD thing that other people, including their competitors, recognize it.

Honestly, it's as if you people WANT all of Apple's competitors to be blind, oblivious, and hopelessly out of touch. Because the world would be sooo amazing if we would only just kill everyone else off and let Apple run the whole show, right?

pacalis · Dec 13, 2012, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by HishamAkhtar

Apple should make an ad.

This guy said that Samsung has a better device, but that Apple locks in users through their ecosystem.

Is that really ad worthy?

likemyorbs · Dec 13, 2012, 10:24 AM

I've tried to use the galaxy s3. It just feels.....yuck.

psiufoxx · Dec 13, 2012, 10:29 AM

I love how he basically says, "Oh and yeah. I also have a Galaxy. 'Cuz I work and Samsung and stuff."

Scrub175 · Dec 13, 2012, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SaaGua

Next story...

Samsung's NEW New Strategy Chief, replacing the current Mr. Sohn...

Named Scott Forstall

AppleScruff1 · Dec 13, 2012, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Will do good

This is a scary guy, know you enemy well and you can defeat him.

Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.

Jaro65 · Dec 13, 2012, 10:35 AM

Kudos to him being honest.

MacCurry · Dec 13, 2012, 10:36 AM

I'm a typical Android user, but am deeply embedded in the Mac OS X ecosystem and will remain there for the foreseeable future. It is iOS that I despise becasue I can not manage what I need to do with my life and business.

gjwfoasfsaevg · Dec 13, 2012, 10:36 AM

The problem is, Samsung can't do software, and an ecosystem is all about the software. I would even say that it is impossible to develop competitive software in Korea. There is a 99% Windows and Internet Explorer monoculture, people have been trained to endure horrible ActiveX plugins, toolbars and other proprietary crap to get basic features of websites working, most PC users have not even heard the word "Linux"... maybe that's why Samsung is moving towards the Silicon Valley.

HMI · Dec 13, 2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by macnerd93

Samsung's stuff is just not as nice to use as Apple's.

I've tried a lot, including their latest offerings like the SIII & the Note to me they just seem to lack an x-factor. Not sure how else to explain it.

He never said he used his Samsung devices, he only said he had them!

TouchMint.com · Dec 13, 2012, 10:39 AM

Seems like a pretty honestly and bright dude.

Imac&SoShouldU · Dec 13, 2012, 10:42 AM

I agree. I find it so strange & absurd how android users troll this site...it's also comical. Jealous much mr. Android users?

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Originally Posted by JayLenochiniMac

Who does that sound like? The many fandroids here who can't help but visit the iPhone forum on a daily basis. They know internally that the iPhone is the better device.

coolspot18 · Dec 13, 2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by macnerd93

I've tried a lot, including their latest offerings like the SIII & the Note to me they just seem to lack an x-factor. Not sure how else to explain it.

I found the GUI to be better, fast, and more responsive than iOS.

However, iPhone/iPad hardware is much nicer.

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Originally Posted by Imac&SoShouldU

I agree. I find it so strange & absurd how android users troll this site...it's also comical. Jealous much mr. Android users?

No they're probably converts to Android like me... I just swapped my iPhone for a Galaxy Note 2.

Still using an iPad, but the price of Android tablets are awfully appealing...

powers74 · Dec 13, 2012, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HishamAkhtar

Apple should make an ad.

Now that would be brilliant.

HMI · Dec 13, 2012, 10:47 AM

"OK, so think about Apple compared to Samsung. I use a Mac, actually, at home. I've always used Mac, an iPhone, and an iPad. I also have the Galaxy. So I'm a great example." - Young Sohn

He never said he uses his Samsung devices, just that he has them!

dalbir4444 · Dec 13, 2012, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imac&SoShouldU

I agree. I find it so strange & absurd how android users troll this site...it's also comical. Jealous much mr. Android users?

Some of you guys make no sense. Some people have an Android phone and a Mac. After all, this site is called MACrumors.

7thson · Dec 13, 2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mw360

Samsung Galaxy OS coming soon....

Yeah, I was reading between the lines and thought he was opining about how great it would be if Apple would license iOS to Samsung, but I think you're closer to the mark. Not sure if you were serious, but still, I agree.

Navdakilla · Dec 13, 2012, 10:54 AM

I've wondered how different ecosystems would benefit me, and if I would like them more.. my buddy is debating converting to windows 8 phone/computer/xbox to try that ecosystem

For me, Apple is just amazing, it works perfectly for me.

Dec 13, 2012, 10:20 AM	#33
notjustjay macrumors 603 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canada, eh?	Seriously, guys? C'mon. I'm pretty sure you could ask ANY tech-savvy person, what is it that people like about Apple? And the answer will be the same. "Well, Apple devices might not be top-of-the-line hardware, but they are easy to use, and it's the entire Apple ecosystem that appeals more so than the individual hardware." It's not like this is some big secret! Oh noes, the Samsung folks have figured it out! Now they will copy it! This has ALWAYS been Apple's strength. And it's a GOOD thing that other people, including their competitors, recognize it. Honestly, it's as if you people WANT all of Apple's competitors to be blind, oblivious, and hopelessly out of touch. Because the world would be sooo amazing if we would only just kill everyone else off and let Apple run the whole show, right? __________________ .
	7

Dec 13, 2012, 10:24 AM	#35
likemyorbs macrumors 68000 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NJ	I've tried to use the galaxy s3. It just feels.....yuck. __________________ "Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose." ~Steve Jobs
	3

Dec 13, 2012, 10:35 AM	#39
Jaro65 macrumors 68040 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Seattle, WA	Kudos to him being honest. __________________ rMBP \| MBP \| MBA \| ACD \| iPad \| iPhone \| ATV \| iPods \| Senn HD 650
	5

Dec 13, 2012, 10:36 AM	#40
MacCurry macrumors 6502 Join Date: Aug 2006	I'm a typical Android user, but am deeply embedded in the Mac OS X ecosystem and will remain there for the foreseeable future. It is iOS that I despise becasue I can not manage what I need to do with my life and business. __________________ 2006 Quad Core Mac Pro; 2008 24" iMac; 2009 MacMini; 2009 MacBook Pro; Couple of Airport Extreme routers, iPad Wifi 32GB; iPad2 3G 32GB; iPad3 3G 32GB, Assorted half-dozen iPods; Apple TV 2
	1

Dec 13, 2012, 10:39 AM	#43
TouchMint.com macrumors 6502 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Phoenix	Seems like a pretty honestly and bright dude. __________________ www.TouchMint.com iPhone App Developer Apps of the month: Baseball Stats Tracker Touch (Over 10,000 Copies Sold!) Quiz and Flashcard Maker
	5

Dec 13, 2012, 10:05 AM	#27
macs4nw macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2010	Using those is one thing, but going around and boasting about it, is another. Wonder what his superiors are thinking about that. As for his view for "Samsung needing to move beyond its current device-centric model and work with partners to embrace a model of an open ecosystem to provide a quality user experience", that's a lofty goal, but with too many partners 'doing their own thing', it can never be as seamless as a tightly controlled ecosystem such as APPLE's. He's obviously smart (and brave) though.
	1

Dec 13, 2012, 10:12 AM	#30
Small White Car macrumors G3 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Washington DC	Samsung is currently the thorn in Apple's side, but honestly I think both Microsoft and Google have a lot to worry about. This is a company with large plans, I think.
	4

Dec 13, 2012, 10:29 AM	#36
psiufoxx macrumors newbie Join Date: Nov 2012	I love how he basically says, "Oh and yeah. I also have a Galaxy. 'Cuz I work and Samsung and stuff."
	0

Dec 13, 2012, 10:36 AM	#41
gjwfoasfsaevg macrumors newbie Join Date: Jun 2007	The problem is, Samsung can't do software, and an ecosystem is all about the software. I would even say that it is impossible to develop competitive software in Korea. There is a 99% Windows and Internet Explorer monoculture, people have been trained to endure horrible ActiveX plugins, toolbars and other proprietary crap to get basic features of websites working, most PC users have not even heard the word "Linux"... maybe that's why Samsung is moving towards the Silicon Valley.
	3

Dec 13, 2012, 10:47 AM	#47
HMI macrumors 6502 Join Date: May 2012	"OK, so think about Apple compared to Samsung. I use a Mac, actually, at home. I've always used Mac, an iPhone, and an iPad. I also have the Galaxy. So I'm a great example." - Young Sohn He never said he uses his Samsung devices, just that he has them!
	0

Dec 13, 2012, 10:54 AM	#50
Navdakilla macrumors 6502a Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Canada	I've wondered how different ecosystems would benefit me, and if I would like them more.. my buddy is debating converting to windows 8 phone/computer/xbox to try that ecosystem For me, Apple is just amazing, it works perfectly for me. __________________ New convert, and never turning back!!!
	0

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