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Old Dec 21, 2012, 11:21 AM   #76
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Very nice design, with Frank Lloyd Wright sensibilities.
There's nothing Frank Lloyd Wright about it, not even remotely. The design approach is essentially Bauhaus or International Style, forms of minimalist aesthetic Modern architecture that Wright didn't expound or practice (pretty much the opposite in fact).
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 11:24 AM   #77
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Well.... There is a new 99% tax bracket with their new extreme socialist president, so the difference will end up being around 30,000 euros takehome difference.
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 11:26 AM   #78
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Yawn... rich people drama.
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 11:30 AM   #79
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Pay him the lot in pennies.

I'd accept it if all the pennies were made before 1983.
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 11:48 AM   #80
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SO SO SO ********* ugly as hell. Starck is a horrid designer and i'm amazed he is even happy to claim this dog as his. I'm sorry but I don't get how you can impound a ship based on an assumed cost from the designer it stinks to me. Got damn that is an ugly boat.
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 11:49 AM   #81
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That would be weird. I'm guessing there is more to this, but a contract should spell out how such a fee is determined. I'm surprised the article suggests a yacht of this price was impounded based on a supposed verbal agreement.
Clicked in to post that. How does the yacht get impounded if this guy doesn't have a written contract?
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 11:49 AM   #82
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Europeans have the highest sense of entitlement that I've ever encountered.

There must surely be a contract in place, how can there be a dispute over something like this? Sounds like sour grapes on the part of the designer who is unhappy that the final sales price of the Yacht came in $50 million under what he had thought? Too bad!
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 11:57 AM   #83
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I can't get over how ugly that thing is.
Could not agree more... Probably the ugliest boat i have seen in my life!
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 11:57 AM   #84
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If there was no contract how did he put a lien against the boat? If he has no contract and put a lien against the boat then he's commit fraud. If he had a contract then the story is wrong. Either way everyone sucks.
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 11:57 AM   #85
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Clicked in to post that. How does the yacht get impounded if this guy doesn't have a written contract?
I'm not sure. The linked article is sparse on details. I would expect it's just a lack of information.
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Clicked in to post that. How does the yacht get impounded if this guy doesn't have a written contract?
Verbal contracts are as enforceable as written contracts.
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 12:00 PM   #87
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They should turn it into an Apple store!
It already looks like one, complete with roofs made of giant iPad 1's and a bridge made of iMacs.
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 12:02 PM   #88
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Yes, he was 'only' paid $6 million. I'd like to be screwed that way someday.
No you wouldn't. I would want that 2.7 you're owed.
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 12:02 PM   #89
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Verbal contracts are as enforceable as written contracts.
I wish!!! The trouble with a verbal contract is if there's a dispute, the other guy says the contract was different. Your friends agree with you, his friends agree with him, and it just all falls through.
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 12:03 PM   #90
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I was thinking the same exact thing.
That thing is nice. So simple
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Why is this even a headline news?
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 12:08 PM   #92
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Verbal contracts are as enforceable as written contracts.
Yes, but you have to prove

a) the contract really exists

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b) the details of the verbal contract were agreed upon by all parties

before it can be enforced. Seems strange you can impound someone's property based on a dispute over the details of a verbal contract, especially if (at least partial) payment has already been proven.
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 12:11 PM   #93
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According to the article the designer "who works with Steve Jobs for the design". It sounds like the guy claiming his money that he did all the design himself. Probably Jobs family won't give the rest of the money maybe because almost all the design was SJ's idea.
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 12:12 PM   #94
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what a horrible vessel !!!

this is one of the ugliest ships I've ever seen yikes, plus who is to enjoy it now? anyways
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 12:13 PM   #95
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Steve would never have allowed this.
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 12:13 PM   #96
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Yes, he was 'only' paid $6 million. I'd like to be screwed that way someday.
I'm sure Apple would feel the same way if they were in his position...

Not that Apple would ever do anything without a contract, that is rather foolish.

Apple should lower their margins using that line of thought.
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 12:15 PM   #97
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I wish!!! The trouble with a verbal contract is if there's a dispute, the other guy says the contract was different. Your friends agree with you, his friends agree with him, and it just all falls through.
Right, they may be more subject to dispute, but they are just as enforceable. I suspect that the "verbal" contract between Steve and the designer is backed up with email and what is really meant in this case by "verbal" is that they didn't have a written, signed contract spelling out all of the provisions. Not that that written, signed contacts can't be disputed.

They'll work something out. I also predict that this little dingy will be will sold within a year.
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Old Dec 21, 2012, 12:20 PM   #98
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If the Jobs family does not want it, I will purchase it. I am not sure where I will park it, My driveway does not have the space and I am sure, it has a big trailer. (Can you imagine how embarrassed you would be if, you put it in the water, then realized, you forgot to put in the plug?)
LMAO That happened to me.
Not on a Yacht but still!
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No you wouldn't. I would want that 2.7 you're owed.
Yes, I would want the additional 2.7 million, of course.

But I would still be happy to be 'screwed' enough to receive 6 million. It's more than I'll ever make in my lifetime.
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