Verizon iPhone 4S Requires SIM Card

Prof. · 10:33 AM

I was at the Apple store today getting my iPhone swapped out due to a 'crunchy' home button, and much to my surprise, the Verizon iPhone 4S requires a SIM card - it can't function without one. Traditionally, 3G CDMA phones don't need a SIM, but apparently the iP4S needs one... Am I the only one who didn't know this? haha

KJmoon117 · Jul 7, 2012, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Prof.

I was at the Apple store today getting my iPhone swapped out due to a 'crunchy' home button, and much to my surprise, the Verizon iPhone 4S require a SIM card - it can't function without one. Traditionally, 3G CDMA phones don't need a SIM, but apparently the iP4S needs one... Am I the only one who didn't know this? haha

I was not.. aware of that.

I never carry a SIM card in my 4S and it works fine with Verizon's network. Only time I ever put in a SIM card is when I go overseas, and even then I don't use a Verizon SIM.

jav6454 · Jul 7, 2012, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Prof.

I was at the Apple store today getting my iPhone swapped out due to a 'crunchy' home button, and much to my surprise, the Verizon iPhone 4S require a SIM card - it can't function without one. Traditionally, 3G CDMA phones don't need a SIM, but apparently the iP4S needs one... Am I the only one who didn't know this? haha

You have proof? Have you tried using it without the SIM module?

Prof. · Jul 7, 2012, 11:05 PM

Unfortunately, i do not have proof. However, when he took the SIM Card out of my iPhone, the iPhone said no sim and there was no service. I even said to the guy, "Wait... the Verizon iPhone has a SIM card? I thought Verizon phones don't need them..." His response, "Yeah, all Verizon 4S's have a SIM card"

reclusive46 · Jul 7, 2012, 11:06 PM

It is a sim card for international roaming

jav6454 · Jul 7, 2012, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Prof.

Unfortunately, i do not have proof. However, when he took the SIM Card out of my iPhone, the iPhone said no sim and there was no service.

This sounds interesting... what was the SIM branding?

Prof. · Jul 7, 2012, 11:08 PM

Branding...?

jav6454 · Jul 7, 2012, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Prof.

Branding...?

Does it say Verizon, etc... color scheme... etc

KJmoon117 · Jul 7, 2012, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Prof.

Unfortunately, i do not have proof. However, when he took the SIM Card out of my iPhone, the iPhone said no sim and there was no service. I even said to the guy, "Wait... the Verizon iPhone has a SIM card? I thought Verizon phones don't need them..." His response, "Yeah, all Verizon 4S's have a SIM card"

Then just toggle the Airport mode on and off. It should pick up a Verizon CDMA signal without the SIM card.

Prof. · Jul 7, 2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jav6454

Does it say Verizon, etc... color scheme... etc

I only saw it briefly, it looked to be the underside with the gold connectors. The sim card itself looked to be white.

Zaft · Jul 7, 2012, 11:16 PM

Thats weird because my sprint iphone 4S works without a sim card and its CDMA also.

Mac.World · Jul 7, 2012, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by reclusive46

It is a sim card for international roaming

^^^ This. And the sim should be identical to this:

photo taken from member hbah427

ace198 · Jul 8, 2012, 01:02 AM

My Verizon iPhone 4S works fine with and without the micro sim card. Not sure if you would need the sim inside when activating.

Diseal3 · Jul 8, 2012, 01:37 AM

Used to say vodaphone for international roaming.

macMD · Jul 8, 2012, 08:14 AM

So will a 4G LTE Verizon iPhone use a larger SIM slot with a single SIM for both world use and 4G US use?

JerseyDoug · Jul 8, 2012, 08:49 AM

Learned something today.. Thanks.

Took the sim out of my purchased from Verizon 4s and phone works normally. Good to know. My daughter is going to Europe in 2 weeks and I am betting she is going to loose the verizon sim when she replaces it with a local one. (based on previous experience.) so her phone will still work when she returns home, regardless.

KJmoon117 · Jul 8, 2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JerseyDoug

Learned something today.. Thanks.

Took the sim out of my purchased from Verizon 4s and phone works normally. Good to know. My daughter is going to Europe in 2 weeks and I am betting she is going to loose the verizon sim when she replaces it with a local one. (based on previous experience.) so her phone will still work when she returns home, regardless.

Call Verizon to have them unlock the SIM slot though.

The Verizon 4G LTE iPhone will probably end up using a microSIM. Probably...

Jimbo47 · Jul 8, 2012, 10:06 AM

My sim card accidentally got locked as I was fiddling around with the settings. Rather than calling vzw to get the code to unlock it, I simply took it out, and my phone worked again. So now if I put in the sim card, I lose service.

Reaper0bot0 · Jul 8, 2012, 10:56 AM

It does not require a SIM card for domestic use.

Period.

JerseyDoug · Jul 8, 2012, 01:41 PM

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Call Verizon to have them unlock the SIM slot though.
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Already did. Thanks.

Anthonymenafro · Dec 22, 2012, 08:44 PM

Can you use a verizon iPhone 4S sim card in a verizon 4G LTE phone?

cutienoua · Dec 22, 2012, 10:35 PM

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Can you use a verizon iPhone 4S sim card in a verizon 4G LTE phone?

that sim is for international roaming. why you want that,since you get a new sim for free?

AppleFanatic10 · Dec 22, 2012, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthonymenafro

Can you use a verizon iPhone 4S sim card in a verizon 4G LTE phone?

Had a friend who tried to use their Verizon 4S sim with their Verizon iPhone 5 & it wouldn't activate... & they did this at the apple store so I'm not sure if they just had a bad sim or if you can't use the same sim for two phones.

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Prof. macrumors 68040 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chicago-ish...	Verizon iPhone 4S Requires SIM Card I was at the Apple store today getting my iPhone swapped out due to a 'crunchy' home button, and much to my surprise, the Verizon iPhone 4S requires a SIM card - it can't function without one. Traditionally, 3G CDMA phones don't need a SIM, but apparently the iP4S needs one... Am I the only one who didn't know this? haha __________________ This year, everyone I know is getting married. Me? I'd be thrilled to be asked to go to Taco Bell by a semi-attractive male. Last edited by Prof.; Jul 8, 2012 at 10:33 AM. Reason: Fixed typo
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Prof. Thread Starter macrumors 68040 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chicago-ish...	Unfortunately, i do not have proof. However, when he took the SIM Card out of my iPhone, the iPhone said no sim and there was no service. I even said to the guy, "Wait... the Verizon iPhone has a SIM card? I thought Verizon phones don't need them..." His response, "Yeah, all Verizon 4S's have a SIM card" __________________ This year, everyone I know is getting married. Me? I'd be thrilled to be asked to go to Taco Bell by a semi-attractive male.
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Prof. Thread Starter macrumors 68040 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chicago-ish...	Branding...? __________________ This year, everyone I know is getting married. Me? I'd be thrilled to be asked to go to Taco Bell by a semi-attractive male.
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ace198 macrumors regular Join Date: Oct 2007	My Verizon iPhone 4S works fine with and without the micro sim card. Not sure if you would need the sim inside when activating. __________________ iPhone 5 16 GB iPod Nano 4th Generation Macbook 1.83 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
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Jimbo47 macrumors 6502 Join Date: Jun 2010	My sim card accidentally got locked as I was fiddling around with the settings. Rather than calling vzw to get the code to unlock it, I simply took it out, and my phone worked again. So now if I put in the sim card, I lose service.
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Jul 7, 2012, 11:06 PM	#5
reclusive46 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: England	It is a sim card for international roaming
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Jul 7, 2012, 11:16 PM	#11
Zaft macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2009	Thats weird because my sprint iphone 4S works without a sim card and its CDMA also.
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Jul 8, 2012, 01:37 AM	#14
Diseal3 macrumors 6502a Join Date: Jun 2008	Used to say vodaphone for international roaming.
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Jul 8, 2012, 08:14 AM	#15
macMD macrumors 6502 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New York	So will a 4G LTE Verizon iPhone use a larger SIM slot with a single SIM for both world use and 4G US use?
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Jul 8, 2012, 08:49 AM	#16
JerseyDoug macrumors regular Join Date: May 2012	Learned something today.. Thanks. Took the sim out of my purchased from Verizon 4s and phone works normally. Good to know. My daughter is going to Europe in 2 weeks and I am betting she is going to loose the verizon sim when she replaces it with a local one. (based on previous experience.) so her phone will still work when she returns home, regardless.
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Jul 8, 2012, 10:56 AM	#19
Reaper0bot0 macrumors regular Join Date: Dec 2010	It does not require a SIM card for domestic use. Period.
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Dec 22, 2012, 08:44 PM	#21
Anthonymenafro macrumors newbie Join Date: Dec 2012	Can you use a verizon iPhone 4S sim card in a verizon 4G LTE phone?
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