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Old Dec 23, 2012, 04:02 AM   #76
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Yeah. Get with it octatonic.

Don't you relish the freedom of saturating your country in firearms?

Sure it might cost you ~6,000 citizens a year.

But just think of all that freedom you're missing out on.

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Never mind that. What is the rabid animal rate?

LOL.
Well this rather illustrates my point more that I could.
Bravo.

I am in no way limited in my freedom.
I do everything that I need to.
I have no need of and do not want a gun.
I don't want to be killed by someone who does though.

Some of you have very weird ideas of what constitutes 'freedom'.

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Guns are a hedge against good government turning into bad government. You people in the UK have nothing between you and a government that all of a sudden decides to enslave you. Or if the Taliban was to overthrow your government, your women would have to be covered head to toe and your men would never be allowed to shave again.
Just wow!
Genuine LOL.

You lose thousands of people a year to gun violence in order to protect yourself from something that is so unlikely as to be comical.
Sounds like paranoia to me.
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Old Dec 23, 2012, 05:08 AM   #77
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Guns are a hedge against good government turning into bad government. You people in the UK have nothing between you and a government that all of a sudden decides to enslave you. Or if the Taliban was to overthrow your government, your women would have to be covered head to toe and your men would never be allowed to shave again.

This kind of thinking is outdated and it would be impossible for the US government to enslave its citizens, that's downright ridiculous! I mean sorry, really? When's the last time your government took away your civil liberties or threatened to kill you if you didn't do such-n-such? Give me ONE example.

And what influence does the Taliban have in US or European society, or even Islamic culture. NONE! What you are repeating here is propaganda from some nitwit who thinks that's all real, and for some reason it sticks. Sure, it may happen in Middle Eastern or Arabian countries but they are still at the beginnings of their individual civil rights movements.
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Old Dec 23, 2012, 05:29 AM   #78
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This kind of thinking is outdated and it would be impossible for the US government to enslave its citizens, that's downright ridiculous! I mean sorry, really? When's the last time your government took away your civil liberties or threatened to kill you if you didn't do such-n-such? Give me ONE example.
Patriot Act, NDAA, Gov't raids of everything from raw milk sellers to guitar manufacturers by jack booted thugs carrying an abundance of firepower. There is Ruby Ridge also which involved the murder of a US citizens wife and child by a gov't sniper.
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Old Dec 23, 2012, 06:28 AM   #79
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Patriot Act, NDAA, Gov't raids of everything from raw milk sellers to guitar manufacturers by jack booted thugs carrying an abundance of firepower. There is Ruby Ridge also which involved the murder of a US citizens wife and child by a gov't sniper.
The PATRIOT Act and NDAA have both illustrated that both parties have no issues with undermining certain civil liberties and rights. Hurricane Katrina is probably the most recent event like this.

With that said, the idea of overthrowing the government is quite silly and almost guaranteed to fail. If someone dislikes policy, rather than shooting people there needs to be an emphasis on civility and diplomacy to change the government from the inside out through truly democratic means. One of the great things in this country is the right to disagree. I see no need to plan to overthrow the government, but plenty of need for change. The shooting of Gabrielle Giffords was one of the events in which someone decided they needed to use force rather diplomatic means...which is terribly un-American and un-democratic. This type of thought process is not the way government should be ran or changed to better serve the people...and nothing is ever accomplished by violence of the sort.
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Old Dec 23, 2012, 07:26 AM   #80
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someone decided they needed to use force rather diplomatic means...which is terribly un-American
I like a bit of satire at Christmas.
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Old Dec 23, 2012, 09:09 AM   #81
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Guns are a hedge against good government turning into bad government. You people in the UK have nothing between you and a government that all of a sudden decides to enslave you. Or if the Taliban was to overthrow your government, your women would have to be covered head to toe and your men would never be allowed to shave again.
OK, well now that we know you aren't serious...
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Old Dec 23, 2012, 11:45 AM   #82
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I don't buy or smoke.
Then maybe you should stop talking in stereotypical generalities that are the result of the PR arm of the war on drugs.
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Old Dec 23, 2012, 12:22 PM   #83
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Guns are a hedge against good government turning into bad government. You people in the UK have nothing between you and a government that all of a sudden decides to enslave you. Or if the Taliban was to overthrow your government, your women would have to be covered head to toe and your men would never be allowed to shave again.
Yes it's complete tyranny here. I've lost count of the number of times I've been abducted by government officers off the street in dark vans. Just a part of my daily routine, you know- get up, go to work, leave work, get abducted, released a few days later and repeat. If only somebody thought to give overpowered weapons to the unorganised, undisciplined, unintelligent public, then I'd be much safer.
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Old Dec 24, 2012, 11:41 AM   #84
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At least guns protect us from those socialist government workers...

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At least two firefighters died when they were shot at the scene of a blaze in upstate New York on Monday, police said.
Two other firefighters were injured, police in Webster, New York, told reporters.
Authorities believe one or more shooters took aim at the firefighters after they left their vehicles, Police Chief Gerald Pickering said.
It was unclear whether there were any suspects.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/24/us/new...html?hpt=hp_t1
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Old Dec 24, 2012, 12:01 PM   #85
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Guns are a hedge against good government turning into bad government. You people in the UK have nothing between you and a government that all of a sudden decides to enslave you. Or if the Taliban was to overthrow your government, your women would have to be covered head to toe and your men would never be allowed to shave again.
This is absolute lunacy.

It's no wonder our country is going down the ******* if there's a portion of the population that thinks like this.
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Old Dec 24, 2012, 12:47 PM   #86
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Guns are a hedge against good government turning into bad government. You people in the UK have nothing between you and a government that all of a sudden decides to enslave you. Or if the Taliban was to overthrow your government, your women would have to be covered head to toe and your men would never be allowed to shave again.
What! We'll all have to become bearded hipsters?

It's those skinny fit trousers that would scare me at my age!

Just to add - ideas of the UK having 'banned' guns are very wide of the mark - there's actually just under 2 million guns here in private ownership... It's just kept very low profile by those who own them.
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