Go Back   MacRumors Forums > Mac Community > Community Discussion > Politics, Religion, Social Issues

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Dec 25, 2012, 04:07 PM   #26
Dr McKay
macrumors 68040
 
Dr McKay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Kirkland
Send a message via MSN to Dr McKay Send a message via Skype™ to Dr McKay
No, it took us that long to get rid of him. You're stuck with him. Also don't they understand the irony of trying to boot someone out for disagreeing with the 2nd amendment. Meanwhile they completely disregard the 1st.
__________________
If only I could be so grossly incandescent.
Dr McKay is offline   4 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 25, 2012, 05:07 PM   #27
APlotdevice
macrumors 68020
 
APlotdevice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by hollerz View Post
Doesn't the first amendment allow free speech?
Technically there are exceptions to free speech. Such as making serious threats against another person's well being. Though if one accepts that the first amendment is not all-encompassing, then it logically follows that neither is the second amendment.
__________________
There is something deeply wrong with a society more offended by breasts than by entrails.
Pebble SmartWatch | iPhone 5c | 11" Macbook Air '13 | HTPC | TV | Numerous Old Consoles

Last edited by APlotdevice; Dec 25, 2012 at 10:03 PM. Reason: Refined statement for better comprehension
APlotdevice is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 25, 2012, 05:53 PM   #28
flopticalcube
macrumors G4
 
flopticalcube's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: In the velcro closure of America's Hat
You would have thought he was trying to be controversial, oh wait...
__________________
Read the Rules / Search the Forums / Use a Descriptive Title
Mac Won't Boot?
flopticalcube is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 25, 2012, 07:00 PM   #29
NickZac
macrumors 68000
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
He's one, of numerous, news personalities who contributes very little to the discussion and is not taking all factors into account IMO.

But does that really surprise you with the media today?
NickZac is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 02:56 AM   #30
CaptMurdock
macrumors 6502a
 
CaptMurdock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: The Evildrome Boozerama
I'd say that while he had the right of free speech (even if he's a resident alien as opposed to a citizen) anyone with a beef against him is certainly free to petition the network -- NOT the government -- to take him off the air. Start a boycott of the show's sponsors. That's exercise of free speech too.
__________________
13" MacBook, 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM, 320 GB HD, OS 10.9.2 | iPhone 4, 32 GB, iOS 7.1
"I got no reason, it's all too much/You'll always find me out to lunch"
CaptMurdock is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 07:29 AM   #31
CorvusCamenarum
macrumors 65816
 
CorvusCamenarum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Birmingham, AL
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr McKay View Post
No, it took us that long to get rid of him. You're stuck with him. Also don't they understand the irony of trying to boot someone out for disagreeing with the 2nd amendment. Meanwhile they completely disregard the 1st.
The First Amendment guarantees you the right to run your mouth. It does not guarantee you a platform from which to run said mouth.
__________________
Much of modern liberalism consists of people trying to get revenge on the football players to whom they felt inferior in school.
CorvusCamenarum is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 07:33 AM   #32
rdowns
macrumors Penryn
 
rdowns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by CorvusCamenarum View Post
The First Amendment guarantees you the right to run your mouth. It does not guarantee you a platform from which to run said mouth.
And petitioning the government to remove him from said platform is ignorant, at best.
__________________
If you say you're leaving Apple because Tim Cook announced he's gay, don't let the door hit you in the ass.
rdowns is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 07:33 AM   #33
skunk
macrumors Demi-God
 
skunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Republic of Ukistan
Quote:
Originally Posted by CorvusCamenarum View Post
The First Amendment guarantees you the right to run your mouth. It does not guarantee you a platform from which to run said mouth.
No, audiences do that.
__________________
"The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted the spoons." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
skunk is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 07:37 AM   #34
roadbloc
macrumors 604
 
roadbloc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: UK
Keep him. We don't want him back.

GB.
__________________
roadbloc is online now   4 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 07:46 AM   #35
APlotdevice
macrumors 68020
 
APlotdevice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by CorvusCamenarum View Post
The First Amendment guarantees you the right to run your mouth. It does not guarantee you a platform from which to run said mouth.
Except that these News outlets are corporations, which for better or worse the Supreme Court has long since ruled are protected under the first amendment. So these hosts are free to express their opinions on the air. They can even flat out lie, as those on Fox News often do.
__________________
There is something deeply wrong with a society more offended by breasts than by entrails.
Pebble SmartWatch | iPhone 5c | 11" Macbook Air '13 | HTPC | TV | Numerous Old Consoles
APlotdevice is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 09:49 AM   #36
Rodimus Prime
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by glocke12 View Post
oh, i agree and my post was facetious....but seriously, the guy is obnoxious as hell...anyone who comes on his show and disagrees with him or offers opposing viewpoints gets shouted down and is not given enough time to answer his question.
My response to this can be summed up in 2 words that kills your entire argument by pointing to something much much worse and more annoying.
Rush Limbaugh.
Rodimus Prime is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 10:27 AM   #37
CorvusCamenarum
macrumors 65816
 
CorvusCamenarum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Birmingham, AL
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdowns View Post
And petitioning the government to remove him from said platform is ignorant, at best.
You're right. Wanting to kick people out of the country is stupid.
__________________
Much of modern liberalism consists of people trying to get revenge on the football players to whom they felt inferior in school.
CorvusCamenarum is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 10:32 AM   #38
rdowns
macrumors Penryn
 
rdowns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by CorvusCamenarum View Post
It's not often that we agree.
__________________
If you say you're leaving Apple because Tim Cook announced he's gay, don't let the door hit you in the ass.
rdowns is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 11:13 AM   #39
zioxide
macrumors 603
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Massachusetts
I think we should keep Piers Morgan and deport that idiot who runs the NRA. Where's that petition?
zioxide is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 01:42 PM   #40
bradl
macrumors 68030
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by CorvusCamenarum View Post
The First Amendment guarantees you the right to run your mouth. It does not guarantee you a platform from which to run said mouth.
To the contrary. In Piers Morgan's case, it does give him the platform for him to run his mouth.

Everyone here is rambling on about his comments and his freedom of speech to make said comments.. But you all forget that he is a member of the press, and is granted that platform via the very same 1st Amendment that guarantees his right to free speech.

Oh wait.. it's that same 1st Amendment that guarantees Fox News the same right, as being part of the press, to lie to the public! Same Freedom of speech, and platform to use it in (the press).

What next, repeal the 1st Amendment or restrict it to only be for citizens? Oh, the indignity.

It was already mentioned before: those doing this need to pull the zipper around from the back of their waist, and grow the smeg up.

BL.
bradl is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 02:15 PM   #41
MacNut
macrumors P6
 
MacNut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: CT
CNN would be happy just to get 48,000 people to watch.
__________________
The thoughts in my head are rated TV-MA. Viewer discretion is advised.
Now batting, Number 2 Derek Jeter, Number 2
MacNut is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 02:16 PM   #42
leekohler
Banned
 
leekohler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacNut View Post
CNN would be happy just to get 48,000 people to watch.
Ah- so popular= good?

In that case, conservatives should be jumping up and down for Obama and working with him to avoid the fiscal cliff- oh wait...
leekohler is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 02:18 PM   #43
ericrwalker
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Albany, NY
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacNut View Post
CNN would be happy just to get 48,000 people to watch.
I would imagine (just a guess on my part) they get half their ratings from businesses leaving the TV on in the waiting rooms/areas.
ericrwalker is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 02:21 PM   #44
MacNut
macrumors P6
 
MacNut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: CT
Quote:
Originally Posted by leekohler View Post
Ah- so popular= good?

In that case, conservatives should be jumping up and down for Obama and working with him to avoid the fiscal cliff- oh wait...
I think CNN is enjoying the free publicity that Morgan is bringing. Even if he is a train wreck it is most likely geting people to watch.

----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by ericrwalker View Post
I would imagine (just a guess on my part) they get half their ratings from businesses leaving the TV on in the waiting rooms/areas.
Dunkin Donuts as well.
__________________
The thoughts in my head are rated TV-MA. Viewer discretion is advised.
Now batting, Number 2 Derek Jeter, Number 2
MacNut is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 02:25 PM   #45
blackhand1001
macrumors 68030
 
blackhand1001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by glocke12 View Post
oh, i agree and my post was facetious....but seriously, the guy is obnoxious as hell...anyone who comes on his show and disagrees with him or offers opposing viewpoints gets shouted down and is not given enough time to answer his question.
He's no where near as bad Bill O'Reily or Rush Limbaugh. They literaly yell over people.
__________________
Macbook 2008
HP Dv7t - 2.53 ghz, 9600m GT, WSXGA+, 120gb ssd, 250 gb 7200rpm
Core i7 3770k, 8gb ram, 2x 120gb sdd raid0, 500gb hdd, GTX 460
Moto X Dev Edition (VZW) Nexus 7
blackhand1001 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 02:39 PM   #46
rdowns
macrumors Penryn
 
rdowns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackhand1001 View Post
He's no where near as bad Bill O'Reily or Rush Limbaugh. They literaly yell over people.
When you yell to your guest, regardless of the topic, "you're an unbelievable stupid man", you're as bad as Limbaugh and O'Reilly.
__________________
If you say you're leaving Apple because Tim Cook announced he's gay, don't let the door hit you in the ass.
rdowns is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 02:40 PM   #47
Peterkro
macrumors 68020
 
Peterkro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Communard de Londres
We no want him:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...iers-morgan-uk
Peterkro is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 02:44 PM   #48
bradl
macrumors 68030
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdowns View Post
When you yell to your guest, regardless of the topic, "you're an unbelievable stupid man", you're as bad as Limbaugh and O'Reilly.
Yet O'Reilly and Limbaugh are to be tolerated, yet when another resident says or does the same thing, they scream bloody murder and want him kicked out.

Sounds like another Shut up and Sing.

BL.
bradl is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 02:47 PM   #49
MacNut
macrumors P6
 
MacNut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: CT
Quote:
Originally Posted by bradl View Post
Yet O'Reilly and Limbaugh are to be tolerated, yet when another resident says or does the same thing, they scream bloody murder and want him kicked out.

Sounds like another Shut up and Sing.

BL.
I don't think we can deport Bill or Rush. I honestly don't think O'Reilly is as bad as Rush is tho. I think Bill can have a resonable debate at times.
__________________
The thoughts in my head are rated TV-MA. Viewer discretion is advised.
Now batting, Number 2 Derek Jeter, Number 2
MacNut is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Dec 26, 2012, 02:56 PM   #50
bradl
macrumors 68030
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacNut View Post
I don't think we can deport Bill or Rush. I honestly don't think O'Reilly is as bad as Rush is tho. I think Bill can have a resonable debate at times.
Unfortunately, we can't. But it makes sense to point out the hypocrisy of these people that Bill and Rush get free passes to do the same thing that Piers has done, which they scream bloody murder on..

And also the fact that they want to deport somebody who ha used the right and legal channels to live in this country, simply because he says something that they don't agree with.

Hence, the aforementioned pull the zipper around from the back up the waist, grow a pair, and grow up. Otherwise, good for the goose=good for the gander.

BL.
bradl is offline   3 Reply With Quote


Reply
MacRumors Forums > Mac Community > Community Discussion > Politics, Religion, Social Issues

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
CNN Fires Piers Morgan LIVEFRMNYC Politics, Religion, Social Issues 28 Feb 28, 2014 10:24 PM
iMessaging while abroad?? Im on wifi, people back home using 3g? ella93 iPhone Tips, Help and Troubleshooting 3 Jul 22, 2013 06:24 PM
Pro-gun advocate Alex Jones rants at Piers Morgan in studio ‘debate’ 725032 Politics, Religion, Social Issues 130 Jan 10, 2013 12:48 PM
Piers Morgan on gun crime for CNN Risco Politics, Religion, Social Issues 116 Dec 23, 2012 11:52 AM
Why are so many people complaining about the new iPhone back? mjpearce023 iPhone 34 Aug 15, 2012 03:59 PM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:20 AM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC