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Old Dec 28, 2012, 10:41 AM   #51
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 10:49 AM   #52
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Is this problem unique to just iPad minis? Or all iPads in general?
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 11:15 AM   #53
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Is this problem unique to just iPad minis? Or all iPads in general?
The 'problem' has nothing to do with iPads, either the Mini or in general.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 11:16 AM   #54
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"Where every detail is finely crafted and made just exquisite.
And the process by which it's manufactured and the level of tolerances unseen in our industry" - Phil Schiller (iPad mini event)

"Absolutely remarkable levels of fit and finish" ... Jony Ive (iPad mini video)


Just saying....
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 11:27 AM   #55
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Looks like Apples quality control is starting to seriously drop.

Cant believe some people would accept the device with a defect just because its apple! If ive paid any kind of money for a device, I expect it to be in pristine condition and fir for purpose, unless I was advised about the defects at the point of sale and offered a discount.

Guess thats the joy of living in the UK with the Sales of Goods Act.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 11:31 AM   #56
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Looks like Apples quality control is starting to seriously drop.

Cant believe some people would accept the device with a defect just because its apple! If ive paid any kind of money for a device, I expect it to be in pristine condition and fir for purpose, unless I was advised about the defects at the point of sale and offered a discount.

Guess thats the joy of living in the UK with the Sales of Goods Act.
Starting to? It's been a pretty prevalent downward spiral since the switch to Intel.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 11:32 AM   #57
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Looks like Apples quality control is starting to seriously drop.

Cant believe some people would accept the device with a defect just because its apple! If ive paid any kind of money for a device, I expect it to be in pristine condition and fir for purpose, unless I was advised about the defects at the point of sale and offered a discount.

Guess thats the joy of living in the UK with the Sales of Goods Act.
Yes, two threads from anonymous people on the Internet spells doom for Apple.

Hyperbole, anyone?
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 11:32 AM   #58
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The 'problem' has nothing to do with iPads, either the Mini or in general.
Why'd you put quotation marks around the world problem? I suppose we should all look forward to unboxing tablets with dust trapped underneath the screen, then?
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And I suppose we should all look forward to unboxing tablets with dust trapped underneath the screen, then?
and not just any dust, dust that grows according to these threads.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 11:35 AM   #60
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Yes, two threads from anonymous people on the Internet spells doom for Apple.

Hyperbole, anyone?
And of course forgetting iPhone 5 and retina MacBook issues.

I guess the issues with iPod duff batteries was BS too....
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Yes, two threads from anonymous people on the Internet spells doom for Apple.

Hyperbole, anyone?
Because everyone that reports a defect with their idevice is a lyer? Im guessing this is what they call blind loyalty.

Ive seen plenty of threads/articles all over the internet reporting that apples quality control has slipped recently.
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Because everyone that reports a defect with their idevice is a lyer? Im guessing this is what they call blind loyalty.

Ive seen plenty of threads/articles all over the internet reporting that apples quality control has slipped recently.
I stand corrected. Two threads on MR is one thing, but 'plenty of threads' and not just on MR, but 'all over the internet', is all the proof I need.

My iPad4 and 2 Minis are clearly the exception.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 11:51 AM   #63
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I stand corrected. Two threads on MR is one thing, but 'plenty of threads' and not just on MR, but 'all over the internet', is all the proof I need.

My iPad4 and 2 Minis are clearly the exception.
Are you deliberately trying to be awkard? Just because your two devices are defect free, dosent mean everyone has been as lucky.

There maybe 2 threads on MR, but how many people within those threads have reported defects?

Google "Apple defects" "Apple Quality Control" and see for yourself.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 12:06 PM   #64
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Are you deliberately trying to be awkard? Just because your two devices are defect free, dosent mean everyone has been as lucky.

There maybe 2 threads on MR, but how many people within those threads have reported defects?

Google "Apple defects" "Apple Quality Control" and see for yourself.
My iPad mini was perfect out of the box. No one I know has had an issue with their iPad mini (or regular). The OP must have had really terrible luck to get 9 defective ones in a row (or he's exaggerating, which is more likely).

And by the way, a handful of defective units out of millions sold is normal for any product, its not a quality control issue.
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My iPad mini was perfect out of the box. No one I know has had an issue with their iPad mini (or regular). The OP must have had really terrible luck to get 9 defective ones in a row (or he's exaggerating, which is more likely).

And by the way, a handful of defective units out of millions sold is normal for any product, its not a quality control issue.
You obviously have big hands....
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 12:10 PM   #66
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My iPad mini was perfect out of the box. No one I know has had an issue with their iPad mini (or regular). The OP must have had really terrible luck to get 9 defective ones in a row (or he's exaggerating, which is more likely).

And by the way, a handful of defective units out of millions sold is normal for any product, its not a quality control issue.
Ah my mistake. If you have a defect free device it means no one can possibly have any issues with their.

Might want to take those rose tinted glasses off - Its hardly a handful. Its exactly the same as the people that dont believe the iphone 5 has dents and nicks upon opening.

Absolute blind loyalty.
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Ah my mistake. If you have a defect free device it means no one can possibly have any issues with their.

Might want to take those rose tinted glasses off - Its hardly a handful. Its exactly the same as the people that dont believe the iphone 5 has dents and nicks upon opening.

Absolute blind loyalty.
Well, what percentage are you talking about? Are 50% defective? 20%? 10%? Please elaborate.
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Old Dec 28, 2012, 12:20 PM   #68
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Well, what percentage are you talking about? Are 50% defective? 20%? 10%? Please elaborate.
I don't know. Maybe you could enlighten me with how may are effective?
Are 50% effective? Please elaborate?

See, two can play that game.
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I don't know. Maybe you could enlighten me with how may are effective?
Are 50% effective? Please elaborate?

See, two can play that game.
Thanks for proving just how juvenile you are.
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Thanks for proving just how juvenile you are.
Hows that juvenile? You asked me to prove how many are defective and in return I asked you to prove how many are effective.

Only apple have these figures! Just proving what a silly question you asked.
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Hows that juvenile? You asked me to prove how many are defective and in return I asked you to prove how many are effective.

Only apple have these figures! Just proving what a silly question you asked.
Dude, if you don't know how many are actually defective, your argument has no ground to stand on. How can you say there's an issue with quality control if you don't know whether there's a problem with 1 in 1000 or 999 in 1000?
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...If ive paid any kind of money for a device...
I think he gets them for free.
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Dude, if you don't know how many are actually defective, your argument has no ground to stand on. How can you say there's an issue with quality control if you don't know whether there's a problem with 1 in 1000 or 999 in 1000?
Well I had 2 out of 4 that had issues. So to me that's a 50% defect rate. I don't give a toss about the real figures.
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Well I had 2 out of 4 that had issues. So to me that's a 50% defect rate. I don't give a toss about the real figures.
That's what I figured.
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Dude, if you don't know how many are actually defective, your argument has no ground to stand on. How can you say there's an issue with quality control if you don't know whether there's a problem with 1 in 1000 or 999 in 1000?
Ive seen numerous people all over the net report about defects from forums to tech blogs. To me that indicates theres some kind of quality control issue.

As I said earlier, only apple have the official figures as to how many defective products they released.
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