iPad mini Itching for one, but need 2 things in the next mini

It's a good thing you listed those two things, I don't think they have been brought up in any other posts.

In due time, my friend. In due time.

I might go iPad mini in the future once my iPad 2 lives a long life, and those features would certainly make it more appealing. Of course by the time I'm done with my current iPad, there may be several iterations of the mini inevitably beyond what you've mentioned.

thelead said:

Woke up on the wrong side of the bed today? Lighten up. This is a forum, this is what happens here. Hope you have a better rest of your day

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No need to be so condescending. It isn't like he insulted you in any way. I don't usually care if there are redundant threads on a forum. But come on? Retina? Literally 12 threads about it on the front page right now.

thelead said:

1) Everyone's #1 feature: Retina

2) 1GB of RAM. This is a necessity for users that like to open a few safari tabs at a time.

Obviously, there would be other things that would be great like a better processor (which would be required for the retina display anyway). I'm dying to get a mini, but those two things are a requirement at this point for me. Anyone else holding out for the same?

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Don't worry about what people are saying about starting this thread...you can always tell the people with no life that hang out all day on here, they think they have a right to tell people what to talk about, ON A FORUM habahaha. All forum communities have people like this, they are unknowingly part of the forum "ecosystem" like a moderator or troll...best to ignore...

I was waiting for the same things on the mini as you, and holding out. I just so happen ran into an apple store that had a new shipment of minis and bought one for my girlfriend for Christmas and one to maybe sell on Craigslist...well I decided to open one and check it out compared to my iPad 4...I NEVER TOUCHED THE IPAD 4 AGAIN, other than to take off the case and return to best buy...

My point is, it's a VERY good tablet. The next version will be better, but using this doesn't feel it's lacking. I suggest you pick one up, use it, if you dont like return. If you keep it, worse case you sell the mini for a very minimal loss and get the mini 2...I'm telling you, this thing is fantastic

While you guys are waiting for the "perfect" mini, I'm enjoying the heck out of mine. We go through these same discussions with every new device. "I would get it except for__________(fill in the blank)."

I just go ahead buy it and enjoy it while those that are waiting can "only" wait and post "how it should be done".

Retina isn't needed, it's perfectly fine as it is. Retina would make it thicker and heavier which defeats the point. Can't say I ever found the ram an issue with my iPad 2, will see how the mini fares

I'm with you OP. Retina is important to me too. I find small fonts benefit the most from retina. The smaller the screen, the more important is retina. My work-around is to use the device in landscape and a lot of zooming/panning when needed.

I don't get the argument about heavier and thicker. When the iPad went retina, it was 0.8 mm thicker. And 2 ounces heavier. When the iPod went retina, it actually got thinner and lighter. And the (retina) iPhone 5 is thinner and lighter than the (non-retina) iPhone 3.

ugcop said:

While you guys are waiting for the "perfect" mini, I'm enjoying the heck out of mine. We go through these same discussions with every new device. "I would get it except for__________(fill in the blank)."

I just go ahead buy it and enjoy it while those that are waiting can "only" wait and post "how it should be done".

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Probably more folks than not already have an ipad to tide them over till the perfect one so to speak or at least one that meets their satisfaction arrives.

A higher resolution screen is always welcomed to me, but the mini's screen is more than adequate. As for the RAM, I haven't had any issues yet, and never did with my iPad 2.

The thing with Apple products is that they don't need the latest/fastest hardware to perform effortlessly.

ugcop said:

We go through these same discussions with every new device. "I would get it except for__________(fill in the blank)." I just go ahead buy it and enjoy it while those that are waiting can "only" wait and post "how it should be done".

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I don't think this is true. When the iPad 3 came out, it was an obvious winner. At least, it was to me.

Sure, people quibbled about the heat, the yellow screens (imaginary and real), and the old processor. But, it was so clearly superior to the 1 or 2, I don't think there was any question in most minds that this was a worthwhile purchase, whatever their complaints.

The Mini is a different beast, in my opinion. The dpi is inferior to other tablets at that size, and the worst in the entire idevice lineup. The processor remains at least two years older than the newest generation of the iPad. The RAM is far less than the newest generation of the iPad. Does it matter? When your PDFs take a long time to render, it sure does. And, when you cannot read PDFs well on it (I tested many of mine and found it quite difficult, but I work a lot in Asian characters, and they are a lot more complex than the English alphabet), it sure does.

If I were in the market for a Mini, I'd definitely wait another generation. If Apple's past is any guide to its future, you can expect the second generation to be a much better product. Just look at the iPad 2. They are still selling it! The iPad 1 is gone. Then again, so is the 3

thelead said:

1) Everyone's #1 feature: Retina

2) 1GB of RAM. This is a necessity for users that like to open a few safari tabs at a time.

Obviously, there would be other things that would be great like a better processor (which would be required for the retina display anyway). I'm dying to get a mini, but those two things are a requirement at this point for me. Anyone else holding out for the same?

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No and No!

LeeM said:

Retina isn't needed, it's perfectly fine as it is. Retina would make it thicker and heavier which defeats the point. Can't say I ever found the ram an issue with my iPad 2, will see how the mini fares

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People always say "this is needed" until they actually use it.

Also saying that a Retina display would make the iPad Mini fatter is just premature. IGZO display and smaller, more efficient processors and batteries all have to be taken into account.

Highly doubt you never ran to a single RAM problem on the iPad 2. The iPad 2 is a good device but far from being problem free.

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ugcop said:

While you guys are waiting for the "perfect" mini, I'm enjoying the heck out of mine. We go through these same discussions with every new device. "I would get it except for__________(fill in the blank)."

I just go ahead buy it and enjoy it while those that are waiting can "only" wait and post "how it should be done".

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Not everyone buys a new Apple product every year like some sort of hobby.

Most people actually buy a product and consider it an investment, use it for a long time, and then replace it when it no longer can meet their needs.

Apple fanboys continually just throw money to Apple and fit your above description. It seems they can never be satisfied with the newest and latest as they need to upgrade every single time.

irDigital0l said:

Not everyone buys a new Apple product every year like some sort of hobby.

Most people actually buy a product and consider it an investment, use it for a long time, and then replace it when it no longer can meet their needs.

Apple fanboys continually just throw money to Apple and fit your above description. It seems they can never be satisfied with the newest and latest as they need to upgrade every single time.

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I do buy a new phone every year but I'm far from an Apple fanboy. In fact until the first iPhone, I had never owned an Apple product. Up to that point I had tried every smart phone. The iPhone was and still is the best out there. The same with the iPad. On the other hand I would never own a Mac. I buy the latest and greatest because I can. If somebody comes to market with a smartphone or pad that meets my needs better I'll be the first to jump ship. Until then, in your eyes I guess I'll be the 69 yo fanboy.



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The current iteration of Foreflight can tax the Mini when zooming around the charts.

The 5 handles the version fine.

So the new processor isuch better for that and more ram certainly helps too.

palpatine said:

Sure, people quibbled about the heat, the yellow screens (imaginary and real), and the old processor. But, it was so clearly superior to the 1 or 2, I don't think there was any question in most minds that this was a worthwhile purchase, whatever their complaints.

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Funny, it seemed clear to me for the same reasons that apple had overeached with the 3, and I decided to pass on this iteration. The 4 offered little of additional interest. If the 5 reflects style and design improvements of the mini it could be very exciting. The future of the full size ipad comes down to its weight.

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palpatine said:

The dpi is inferior to other tablets at that size, and the worst in the entire idevice lineup. The processor remains at least two years older than the newest generation of the iPad. The RAM is far less than the newest generation of the iPad.

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Actually, the mini has a higher dpi than than the ipad2

I'm personally waiting for retina ipad mini myself before I consider my upgrade options.

You don't "need" retina, 1GB RAM or even an iPad mini. I open multiple tabs on mine all the time. No problems. Retina isn't that big of a deal. It's awesome but doesn't get in the way of me enjoying it. You could keep waiting for 3D, 4D, holographic, 1TB RAM, etc. but I will be enjoying the heck out of mine.

My mini opens up a multiple tabs and the screen is fine. The issue with a retina mini is
1. Cost, the display will drive up the cost on what is already an expensive tablet.
2. CPU/GPU, the retina screen will need the newer A5x or A6

3. Battery because of the cpu upgrade the battery will need to be increased

4. Larger battery means larger more expensive mini.

I'm not saying we'll not see a mini but rather there may be sacrifices like price size and weight which I'm not really all jazzed up to embrace. The mini is a great 7" tablet as it is

rowspaxe said:

Funny, it seemed clear to me for the same reasons that apple had overeached with the 3, and I decided to pass on this iteration. The 4 offered little of additional interest. If the 5 reflects style and design improvements of the mini it could be very exciting. The future of the full size ipad comes down to its weight.

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Funny. The 3 seemed like an obvious choice to me at the time and it remains a great device. The 4 is clearly an improvement, but nothing worth selling the 3 and upgrading for.

Actually, the mini has a higher dpi than than the ipad2

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Yep. You are correct. 163 for the Mini and 132 for the iPad 2. I didn't realize just how bad the iPad 2 screen was. I mean, I knew it even at the time I bought it, because I had the iPad 1, but seeing the numbers is a whole other thing. Ouch. I'm really not willing to go backwards on the display, but I understand why some people would.

As you said, the iPad 5 will be exciting if they can make significant improvements to the body. I actually prefer the larger bezel, though, so I am not sure if I will like what I see.

maflynn said:

My mini opens up a multiple tabs and the screen is fine. The issue with a retina mini is

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I think Apple priced the current Mini so they won't raise the price for the Retina one.