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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:04 PM   #76
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A look at history
So, when I like in the Macrumors archive we see this:

2012: iOS 6 first showed up in March 2012. The new iPhone launched in September. Five months between discovery of iOS 6 'mentions' and launch.
http://www.macrumors.com/2012/03/02/...p-in-web-logs/

2011: iOS 5 first showed up in late April 2011. The new iPhone launched in October. Five months between discovery of iOS 5 'mentions' and and launch.
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/27/...-from-ios-5-0/

2010: iOS 4 first showed up in December 2009. The new iPhone launched in June. Five months between discovery iOS 4 'mentions' and launch.
http://www.macrumors.com/2009/12/14/...iphone-4-0-os/

Looking at history...
Counting this month and looking at past launch patterns, than a new iPhone should launch in June.

Of course, this is all speculation, but the fact that iOS 7 shows up this early could indicate that a new iPhone is going to launch sooner than we anticipated.
Your historical analysis actually shows the gap as 6 months.

This would be one hell of an observation if you're right. Guess we'll find out soon!
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:05 PM   #77
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[QUOTE=leesmith2;16586835]Here's what I want to see in iOS 7...

3. Vehicle mode - no texting if device is moving > 5 mph

At times in car there are people called passengers how will the phone be able to determine who is who or should the people in the back seat also not text?
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:05 PM   #78
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My AT&T line has been contract free since May. I've been waiting to see what the new iPhone may offer. The latest iPhone wash't worth using the upgrade. I'm hoping the new one will be 128GB storage. That's all I really want.
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:07 PM   #79
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I did the same thing you did, but I did it already at iPhone 3GS. Regular flip cell phone, no smartness just phone and text. Last almost 5 days straight one charge. I could not be happier. No more playing with phone needlessly.

I have a regular small tablet for email and music fits right in my pocket.

"one has to know how to live" simplicity! All i see is craziness with ithis and ithat, iOS here and ios there. Come on,

Peace. Good post.
Are you serious? So you have three devices instead of one? I have enough with my iMac and iPhone. I use my iPhone for calling, texting, navigation, emailing, occasionally browsing, taking photo's and as my iPod.
I would hate to go back to all those different devices. And this one also fits in my pocket. Simplicity is just in that!
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:09 PM   #80
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Other than some inevitable glitches and slowdowns iOS 6 has been fine for me. I think some of you all are assuming that everyone feels the way you do.
'inevitable' glitches? iOS 6 hardly offered any features, and it's been 3 months since it was released, any glitches present at this moment isnt inevitable, it just shows sloppiness

Slowdowns? I thought apple fanboys brag about how smooth iOS is, why do you make it sound like a slow down is acceptable? if the OS was changed in radical ways (e.g. iCloud in iOS 5) and slowed down older devices, then it's understandable, but that's not the case with iOS 6. btw, try loading up the 'top 25' list on the retina iPad on your ios 6 app store, it takes ages.

I dont need to assume anything, but if im having problems even after clean installation of iOS 6, i'd imagine other people to have similar experiences.
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:09 PM   #81
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Your historical analysis actually shows the gap as 6 months.

This would be one hell of an observation if you're right. Guess we'll find out soon!
Yeah, it depends on how you count. Like if the first log shows up in January and the launch in May, I would count like the months in between (so February, March, April). You could also include either January or May, or both.
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:09 PM   #82
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Hopefully Ive has done something radical.
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Show us what you've got Ive
Let's be realistic here. It'll most likely have the same design/form factor as a S-type update.
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:10 PM   #83
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Let's be realistic here. It'll most likely have the same design/form factor as a S-type update.
I think they were referring to iOS 7...
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:12 PM   #84
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iOS 7 is sure to have many nifty new things but here's some low hanging stuff.

1. Let us hide apps. I don't have to delete them but for many I don't want to have to see them in a folder.

2. Notes - needs to use iCloud without requiring setting up a mail account.

3. Stores need a list view option. Wishlist with notifications of price drops and faster speed.

3. Better inter-application sharing.

4. Easier iCloud setup

5. Ability to reset all badges or turn all notifications off.
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:13 PM   #85
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I'd be more shocked if it wasn't appearing in developer logs.

Ideal wishlist (for me, personally before some nutjob starts saying I'm wrong):

(iPhone 6)
- Senseg touchscreen (i.e water feels like water, grit would feel gritty, etc - info: http://senseg.com/)
- A true bigger screen this time. Not a stretched one. (S3 screen is pretty much the ideal size IMO - not so big it wont fit in your pocket, but big enough to be usable for longer periods).
- Either carbon fiber or plastic shell (there really is zero benefit to a metal shell, and causes more problems than its worth)
- Replace the physical home button with a touch one.

(iOS 7)
- Complete control over your default app
- Ability to delete built-in apps (Maps....I'm looking at you.)
- Full UI overhaul
- Removal of Passbook, Stocks, Weather, Reminders as default/installed apps - move them to the appstore for those that want them
- Widgets
- Customisable lock screen
- Customisable springboard (i.e not forced to have icons on the 4x4/5 grid)
- Landscape home screen support
- Option to list apps instead of have a large icon
- Option to rollback app updates (for when devs have bugs slip through in an update)
- Option to enable automatic app updates
- File manager (will never happen but we can dream - but it may be a necessity if they ever allow you to control default apps)
- Better settings. Not sure how, but as it stands the settings app is a terribly designed way of managing your iPhone (and app) settings.
- Removal of that frigging newsstand icon - why oh why can I not just disable it and hide it in a folder with the rest of the crap Apple ships on the iPhone!


(Unimportant/minor iOS7 wishlist)
- Ability to set your own OS colorscheme, which basically lets you change the gradients, bars, etc to be more personalised
- Either complete removal of siri's online search system, or a massive improvement to make it actually half decent outside major cities. The likes of Google Now are years ahead of Siri.
- Controls for the camera to adjust aperture, dof, exposure, etc

I dont see a single one of these things happening however
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:13 PM   #86
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Add a temperature sensor and an altimeter...tactile feedback...
I was just saying this myself about the altmeter would be great if an iPhone had one, then watch how all other smartphones get one!
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:15 PM   #87
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I'm tired of all the iOS and itoys news.

Not because I prefer Mac news... but because the iOS news is the same thing EVERY YEAR! :/
So don't read them. Some people are interested in reading what the latest OS and hardware is coming out.

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I'd be more shocked if it wasn't appearing in developer logs.

Ideal wishlist (for me, personally before some nutjob starts saying I'm wrong):

(iPhone 6)
- Senseg touchscreen (i.e water feels like water, grit would feel gritty, etc - info: http://senseg.com/)
- A true bigger screen this time. Not a stretched one. (S3 screen is pretty much the ideal size IMO - not so big it wont fit in your pocket, but big enough to be usable for longer periods).
- Either carbon fiber or plastic shell (there really is zero benefit to a metal shell, and causes more problems than its worth)
- Replace the physical home button with a touch one.

(iOS 7)
- Complete control over your default app
- Ability to delete built-in apps (Maps....I'm looking at you.)
- Full UI overhaul
- Removal of Passbook, Stocks, Weather, Reminders as default/installed apps - move them to the appstore for those that want them
- Widgets
- Customisable lock screen
- Customisable springboard (i.e not forced to have icons on the 4x4/5 grid)
- Landscape home screen support
- Option to list apps instead of have a large icon
- Option to rollback app updates (for when devs have bugs slip through in an update)
- Option to enable automatic app updates
- File manager (will never happen but we can dream - but it may be a necessity if they ever allow you to control default apps)
- Better settings. Not sure how, but as it stands the settings app is a terribly designed way of managing your iPhone (and app) settings.
- Removal of that frigging newsstand icon - why oh why can I not just disable it and hide it in a folder with the rest of the crap Apple ships on the iPhone!


(Unimportant/minor iOS7 wishlist)
- Ability to set your own OS colorscheme, which basically lets you change the gradients, bars, etc to be more personalised
- Either complete removal of siri's online search system, or a massive improvement to make it actually half decent outside major cities. The likes of Google Now are years ahead of Siri.
- Controls for the camera to adjust aperture, dof, exposure, etc

I dont see a single one of these things happening however
Go to Apple's Feedback site and submit your suggestions.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/

That's where it will get directed to the appropriate people that can actually do something about it.
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:16 PM   #88
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Leaked photo of said iPhone

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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:17 PM   #89
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:27 PM   #90
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If your calculating like that its kinda unfair to calculate the data plan every month for a smartphone because its required.

If you look at it from that way yes, but look at it regularly. You can get an iPhone as cheap as $0 and an iPad as cheap as $330 (Mini).
Kinda unfair? Those are the cold facts. You don't get a phone for free just because you decide to get a data plan or something like that. No, they tell you "here is the phone, for two years every month you'll pay us a bit, you'll pay rent and we'll throw in some data".

Also, this is only the case in the US.

You do not get a phone for just $199. You don't get an iPhone 4S for $99 and you definitely don't get an iPhone 4 for free. You pay for it, every month again, for two years.
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:29 PM   #91
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I can honestly say I want almost none of these.
Then has Microsoft got just the phone for you!
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:30 PM   #92
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Anyone think it will be called the iPhone 7?
No. It might be called the iPhone 5S.
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:31 PM   #93
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Kinda unfair? Those are the cold facts. You don't get a phone for free just because you decide to get a data plan or something like that. No, they tell you "here is the phone, for two years every month you'll pay us a bit, you'll pay rent and we'll throw in some data".

Also, this is only the case in the US.

You do not get a phone for just $199. You don't get an iPhone 4S for $99 and you definitely don't get an iPhone 4 for free. You pay for it, every month again, for two years.
Which is why I'm saying if your going to compare, compare the money you pay when you buy a new device or compare them both with data for 2 years.

Either case, you still pay more for the iPad. iPhones are cheaper than iPads in that regard.

Yes, when you go to data, its a different story.
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:39 PM   #94
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My AT&T line has been contract free since May. I've been waiting to see what the new iPhone may offer. The latest iPhone wash't worth using the upgrade. I'm hoping the new one will be 128GB storage. That's all I really want.
I hope you like being outrageously charged after your contract is up. When I called them to ask if my bill would go down now that my contract was up and the phone was "paid for", I simply asked what the point of not being on a contract and being month to month is, their answer "You can leave at any point since you're month to month". Wow, really??? Their arrogance, needless to say I'm not with them anymore. You'll have wasted paying roughly $30 extra a month for a year... so I hope $360 is not a big deal to you. Switch to TMO w/ a BYOD once they offer the iPhone officially, unlocked. I'm waiting to switch to TMO until it becomes officially supported and I can use my visual voicemail again.
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:39 PM   #95
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I think we might see ios7 in March when the new ipads come out.
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:40 PM   #96
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iOS 7 wish list:

- default apps (open with...)
- hide/remove native apps
- iPhone multi-touch gestures
- Mail rules/filters
- locking home screen layout (to prevent accidental icon wiggling)
- password-protect any app
- mass-check for iMessage-enabled contacts (e.g., blue circle next to a contact?)
- access some phone settings from the lock screen/notification center
- 'clear all' button in the notification center
- swipe from the very bottom to reveal app switcher
- free icon positioning on home screen (allowing empty grids)
- Apple's standalone dictionary app + built-in translator
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:40 PM   #97
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I doubt much will change, maybe the slide to unlock is slightly more "modern" more redesigns for stock apps and that's about it.
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:42 PM   #98
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An iPhone 4 with a 2 year contract is just a loan with high interest. An iPhone 4 does not cost $0. You pay for it for over a period of two years.

A new iPhone 4, on Apple's website, costs $450.
Sort of. You pay the same for the service either way in most cases in the US, so it's more like either a loan with high interest, or no loan with the same high interest as if you had the loan anyway.

In that case, you might as well take the loan, right?
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Old Jan 1, 2013, 05:43 PM   #99
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Which is why I'm saying if your going to compare, compare the money you pay when you buy a new device or compare them both with data for 2 years.

Either case, you still pay more for the iPad. iPhones are cheaper than iPads in that regard.

Yes, when you go to data, its a different story.
iPads are cheaper. This is what iPhones cost (according to Apple's website) and this is how much an iPhone will cost you. On top of these prices, you'll pay some sort of rent and you'll pay a bit for your data/minutes.

iPhone 4 8 GB: $449
iPhone 4S 16 GB: $549
iPhone 5 16 GB: $649
iPhone 5 32 GB: $749
iPhone 5 64 GB: $849

Only the 2.5 year old model is $50 cheaper than a 2012 fourth generation iPad with Retina display.

Above prices is what you'll pay over a period of two years. And that's the best case scenario.

As I said, buying a subsidized phone is really getting a phone with a loan. What you pay for data isn't really what you pay for data. It's what you pay for data, plus what you pay for the phone, plus something so they can make a decent profit.

According to your logic, I could claim a $2000 iMac is cheaper than an iPod shuffle. After all, I'm getting it for $0 plus a contract for which I will get a few gigs of data for just $100 a month.
After 24 months, I have paid $2400. $2000 went to paying for the iMac, $50 to the data, $250 'rent' (because that $2000 iMac has been paid for 24 months ago) (this is, of course, also pure profit) and the last $100 just general profit.
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Leaked photo of said iPhone
That wasn't funny/clever the first time it came out and it isn't any funnier now.
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