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Old Jan 2, 2013, 12:54 PM   #51
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For Apple, using the serial numbers when they connect to the internet and phone home, to either brick them or spot them would be a good solution.
Bricking them requires effort on Apple's part and results in innocent customers having an inferior experience... I don't think criminals will find it too difficult to sell these to customers before they find out they're bricked.
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Old Jan 2, 2013, 12:59 PM   #52
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Old Jan 2, 2013, 01:09 PM   #54
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Why? Were there riots on the Champs Elysees?
Riots and fights always happen on New Year's Eve in Paris - in fact, that city is a dumpster and a train wreck in terms of safety, always infested with illegal immigrants and unemployed youths coming from the banlieues.
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Old Jan 2, 2013, 01:13 PM   #55
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If their products weren't so over priced then there wouldn't be such a false second hand product market. You don't see people smash and grab PC World for some Samsung laptops because their prices are reasonable so there isn't a stupid second hand market.
You seriously typed this? Thieve's conversation in your mind "Apple store or PC World?" "Well, Samsung's price point is more reasonable, so let's hit the Apple Store!"

You are clearly an android user.

They hit the Apple Store because Apple products are in demand, and they can get rid of them quickly. That is all.
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Old Jan 2, 2013, 01:17 PM   #56
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Glad no one was hurt.

Last edited by usasalazar; Jan 3, 2013 at 11:51 AM. Reason: Previous post was very insensitive.
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Old Jan 2, 2013, 01:17 PM   #57
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Riots and fights always happen on New Year's Eve in Paris - in fact, that city is a dumpster and a train wreck in terms of safety, always infested with illegal immigrants and unemployed youths coming from the banlieues.
especially north African immigrants, now 2nd or 3rd gen, French-born, who love to steal, damage new stuff like train and metro glasses, wall tagging...

well people who have no respect for others

that why police forces have to sent reinforcements and focus on this area every year

as i remember they broke a few shop glasses 2 years ago

this year, they burned more than 1000 cars
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Old Jan 2, 2013, 01:27 PM   #58
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mmm... unlucky insurance company surely?

Don't worry though they've called Chief Inspector Jacques Clouseau.
No such thing as an unlucky insurance company, only unlucky insurance policy holders on re-newal day....
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Old Jan 2, 2013, 01:28 PM   #59
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MacRumors didn't credit me after I emailed the story about Steve Jobs dying.
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Old Jan 2, 2013, 01:42 PM   #60
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Thanks for the credit after I emailing you the story lads!
It's been all over the internet for 48 hours already [:rolleyes]...

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Yep.

THey must have known stock. No way they would have cold called.
Then again, year-end is pretty much synonym with full inventories. Then again, stealing EUR 1M of goods without being caught probably requires, like you suggest, quite a lot of inside intel and/or collaboration...
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especially north African immigrants, now 2nd or 3rd gen, French-born, who love to steal, damage new stuff like train and metro glasses, wall tagging...

well people who have no respect for others

that why police forces have to sent reinforcements and focus on this area every year

as i remember they broke a few shop glasses 2 years ago

this year, they burned more than 1000 cars
Really....? Are we still going for this type of racial stereotyping?

Those North Africans, just love to steal and burn right?

So I am betting you are one of these 'educated' people who believe that muggings are only carried out by young black men and that paedophile's are fat balding middle aged white men?
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Old Jan 2, 2013, 01:54 PM   #62
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The French are great at surrendering and turning their stuff over to invaders.
Think twice, cow-boy
surrenderring >> being shot

At least when "their stuff" = "a bunch of iPads in a store". We're not talking about WWII here...
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Old Jan 2, 2013, 02:08 PM   #63
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Armed robery in France, hmmm

Hmmm, how very interesting (sad). And I thought that France had some of the strictest gun laws in the world (effectively outlawing guns), and yet 4 armed thugs robbed an Apple store there.

I wonder what they were doing with guns - oh wait, you mean to tell me that criminals don't care about the law?

The stories are light on detail, but at least it looks like they attacked after hours and nobody is dead.

And all the serial #'s of the stolen products are known, so authorities should eventually be able to trace at least one item back to the thieves. It's just a matter of time...
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Old Jan 2, 2013, 02:10 PM   #64
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"Mr Crepin said the robbers mainly took 'a lot of goods' and very little money. Early estimates were that the haul was worth well over 1 million euros, or close to 1 million pounds."

And still us Americans have no idea how much that is actually worth LOL
Close to 1 million only if you think 811800 is close to a 1 million pounds.
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Old Jan 2, 2013, 02:11 PM   #65
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especially north African immigrants, now 2nd or 3rd gen, French-born, who love to steal, damage new stuff like train and metro glasses, wall tagging...

well people who have no respect for others

that why police forces have to sent reinforcements and focus on this area every year

as i remember they broke a few shop glasses 2 years ago

this year, they burned more than 1000 cars
Well, I'm French and live in paris.
Whilst I wouldn't focus like you on the racial aspect - which does not predispose anyone for any mean actions in case you forgot it - it is true that Paris (where I live) has become a very difficult, insecure city.

Using the subway to go back home after NYE was like going through an apocalyptic scene of drunk idiots and scum assaulting everyone, trying to touch girls, to steal purses and bags, shouting, vomiting in the metro, throwing junk out of the bins in every directions. I went home with the content of a McFlurry spread on my new suit after a stupid drunk teenager under drugs threw it at me and his five friends tried to get into an argument with me and my girlfriend. Police don't do anything and can't do anything without being heavily criticized by the whole population. There is clearly a total lack of respect, of education, of hygiene, of order in the city.

While it is obvious that many poor migrants or children of migrants take part in the riots and disrupt the quietness of other citizens, let's face it, rioting, getting drunk and revolting against order is something deeply rooted in the French culture. Poor, inoccupied people, who assault or revolt or do graffitis on the walls, among whom quite a few migrants, act in a way that is very... French. Because their own parents and also because school, the French school system, failed to educate them. A way that does not solve any problems by the way... The more it is, the more I despise the shape the French society is turning into.
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especially north African immigrants, now 2nd or 3rd gen, French-born, who love to steal, damage new stuff like train and metro glasses, wall tagging...

well people who have no respect for others

that why police forces have to sent reinforcements and focus on this area every year

as i remember they broke a few shop glasses 2 years ago

this year, they burned more than 1000 cars
Glad to see racism (that's irony for you yanks) is alive and well on this board.

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Well, I'm French and live in paris.
Whilst I wouldn't focus like you on the racial aspect - which does not predispose anyone for any mean actions in case you forgot it - it is true that Paris (where I live) has become a very difficult, insecure city.

Using the subway to go back home after NYE was like going through an apocalyptic scene of drunk idiots and scum assaulting everyone, trying to touch girls, to steal purses and bags, shouting, vomiting in the metro, throwing junk out of the bins in every directions. I went home with the content of a McFlurry spread on my new suit after a stupid drunk teenager under drugs threw it at me and his five friends tried to get into an argument with me and my girlfriend. Police don't do anything and can't do anything without being heavily criticized by the whole population. There is clearly a total lack of respect, of education, of hygiene, of order in the city.

While it is obvious that many poor migrants or children of migrants take part in the riots and disrupt the quietness of other citizens, let's face it, rioting, getting drunk and revolting against order is something deeply rooted in the French culture. Poor, inoccupied people, who assault or revolt or do graffitis on the walls, among whom quite a few migrants, act in a way that is very... French. Because their own parents and also because school, the French school system, failed to educate them. A way that does not solve any problems by the way... The more it is, the more I despise the shape the French society is turning into.
No justice no peace, just a thought like.
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Old Jan 2, 2013, 02:19 PM   #67
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We have the plot to a new Hercule Poirot's case...
Poirot, being Belgian, would of course have been more appropriate to investigate the Mobistar theft of a few weeks ago.
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Old Jan 2, 2013, 02:25 PM   #68
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Well, I'm French and live in paris.
Whilst I wouldn't focus like you on the racial aspect - which does not predispose anyone for any mean actions in case you forgot it - it is true that Paris (where I live) has become a very difficult, insecure city.

Using the subway to go back home after NYE was like going through an apocalyptic scene of drunk idiots and scum assaulting everyone, trying to touch girls, to steal purses and bags, shouting, vomiting in the metro, throwing junk out of the bins in every directions. I went home with the content of a McFlurry spread on my new suit after a stupid drunk teenager under drugs threw it at me and his five friends tried to get into an argument with me and my girlfriend. Police don't do anything and can't do anything without being heavily criticized by the whole population. There is clearly a total lack of respect, of education, of hygiene, of order in the city.

While it is obvious that many poor migrants or children of migrants take part in the riots and disrupt the quietness of other citizens, let's face it, rioting, getting drunk and revolting against order is something deeply rooted in the French culture. Poor, inoccupied people, who assault or revolt or do graffitis on the walls, among whom quite a few migrants, act in a way that is very... French. Because their own parents and also because school, the French school system, failed to educate them. A way that does not solve any problems by the way... The more it is, the more I despise the shape the French society is turning into.

it's not racism

as long as we point out the truth, it's racism...

seriously, in any other country, no matter where they come from, they feel like being real citizens, except in France, where the society, school and politics are always those to blame

nobody failed to educate them and forced them to burn cars

i have travelled in many places surrounded by immigrants and never felt safe while being in Paris

my african or arabian friends are even ashamed of seeing this kind of situations
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Old Jan 2, 2013, 02:33 PM   #69
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If Apple's products were overpriced, then there would be no customers for their products. Given that Apple's stores are so crowded, and with waiting list for some of their products, it might, in fact, mean that some of their products are underpriced.
I gave up two years of my life at Apple retail. Those lines aren't for purchases unless it's new iPhone week. Most of our foot traffic was the result of Genius Bar appointments, and about 70% of those where for the iPhone.

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You seriously typed this? Thieve's conversation in your mind "Apple store or PC World?" "Well, Samsung's price point is more reasonable, so let's hit the Apple Store!"

You are clearly an android user.

They hit the Apple Store because Apple products are in demand, and they can get rid of them quickly. That is all.
Last I checked a $4000 PC costs the same as a $4000 Mac. Since the article only tells us how much was stolen and not sold for, anyone's point about a "Samsung" or "PC" store NOT being robbed is moot.

Now, the real question is why these stores are getting robbed so easily, or why are retail employees able to heist so much merchandise? When I worked retail at Apple, there were at least 4 levels of security for each section of the store, 5 for the Genius Bar repairs, and almost 8 total if you had no business being in the BOH.
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Isn't this news 2 days old already?
Forgive macrumors, arnold kim is still moaning about his appshopper app removal
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Old Jan 2, 2013, 02:38 PM   #71
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Riots and fights always happen on New Year's Eve in Paris - in fact, that city is a dumpster and a train wreck in terms of safety, always infested with illegal immigrants and unemployed youths coming from the banlieues.
I was offered many things on the Champs Elysees... That strip is full of people and had police combing the street during NYE. Nothing like champagne in streets of Paris. Come to find out that tower lights up every hour!
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If their products weren't so over priced then there wouldn't be such a false second hand product market. You don't see people smash and grab PC World for some Samsung laptops because their prices are reasonable so there isn't a stupid second hand market.
Seriously? Blame the price for it being stolen? So the fact that they make products people want to buy wouldn't be the reason but the price is the reason? Get real, I don't see people going to a local BMW dealer stealing and selling cars, in fact lower priced Japanese cars are stolen much more often why? Because there is a demand, nothing to do with price.
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Wow, I was just in that store recently...
Apple needs to find a way to beef up their security in these stores. The more these stories are in the news the more smash and grabs are going to happen...
Not really, all the stuff on the shop floor is tagged and lo-jacked. History shows, if they put up more barricades, people just get more reckless. Sure Apple couldbe like every other electronics store and put permanent bars up on tiny windows nobody so nobody can climb in. Put heavy barricaded doors up...

They can look like a pawn shop on 8 Mile in Deroit.

ID like the media to do report what the RECOVERY RATE is for these heists. ID bet Aple ends up with most of the stuff accounted for rather quickly. THAT is how you deter crime.. Report how fast the stuff gets picked up by cops.
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So they stole 48 lightning adapters? Daaaaaaaaaaamn~
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Glad to see racism (that's irony for you yanks) is alive and well on this board.

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No justice no peace, just a thought like.
Communist rubbish!

Paris is uncivilized because it is full of uncivilized people!
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