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Old Aug 30, 2014, 12:10 PM   #1
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Apple inaccuracy?

Why Apple @ WWDC usually says the next iOS will be released in the Fall?

iOS 6 was released the 19th September
iOS 7 was released the 18th September

Fall means the 21th september or not? :P
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Old Aug 30, 2014, 07:23 PM   #2
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It doesnít correspond to any specific date. It could be any time in September or October and November and it would still qualify as fall. They use the seasonal names to give them flexibility so that they donít have to commit to a date that they donít know if they can make or not (missing a stated date is bad PR).

There is no inaccuracy. Apple I donít think has ever said a specific date for release until the GM was released at the specific iPhone event.
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Old Aug 31, 2014, 02:10 AM   #3
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It doesnít correspond to any specific date. It could be any time in September or October and November and it would still qualify as fall. They use the seasonal names to give them flexibility so that they donít have to commit to a date that they donít know if they can make or not (missing a stated date is bad PR).

There is no inaccuracy. Apple I donít think has ever said a specific date for release until the GM was released at the specific iPhone event.
Fall is a specific period of time.
It means between the 21th September and the 21th December. So it should be in this period.
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Of all the bones to pick with Apple, this is not the one.
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Old Aug 31, 2014, 06:14 AM   #5
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Fall means the 21th september or not? :P
So you're complaining that they're releasing iOS too soon
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Old Aug 31, 2014, 09:53 AM   #6
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Why Apple @ WWDC usually says the next iOS will be released in the Fall?

iOS 6 was released the 19th September
iOS 7 was released the 18th September

Fall means the 21th september or not? :P
Technically "fall" starts with the September equinox - generally understood to mean the day that the "day" and "night" portions of the day are equal. (There are some technical nuances that cause it to not be absolutely true, but I digress.) This can fall anytime between September 20 and September 24.

But the point here is that you are complaining because Apple missed a "generic" launch date by being between 1 and 6 days EARLY?

Talk about "first world problems".
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Old Aug 31, 2014, 10:20 AM   #7
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So you're complaining that they're releasing iOS too soon
Not complaining at all, the sooner we get iOS releases the better it is

Just pointing out this fact.

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Technically "fall" starts with the September equinox - generally understood to mean the day that the "day" and "night" portions of the day are equal. (There are some technical nuances that cause it to not be absolutely true, but I digress.) This can fall anytime between September 20 and September 24.

But the point here is that you are complaining because Apple missed a "generic" launch date by being between 1 and 6 days EARLY?

Talk about "first world problems".
I'm complaining? This is what you are assuming.
If askin' a question is complaining..

I just noticed this thing and wanted to share it and wanted to hear other opinions on that since it seems weird to me that Apple - precise about everything as we all know - release something (even just some days) before it supposed to be.

There are 2 possibility:
1) You are frustrated in life =)
2) You are a freak Apple fanboy (I like Apple but I don't consider myself as a fanboy)
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Not complaining at all, the sooner we get iOS releases the better it is

Just pointing out this fact.

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I'm complaining? This is what you are assuming.
If askin' a question is complaining..

I just noticed this thing and wanted to share it and wanted to hear other opinions on that since it seems weird to me that Apple - precise about everything as we all know - release something (even just some days) before it supposed to be.

There are 2 possibility:
1) You are frustrated in life =)
2) You are a freak Apple fanboy (I like Apple but I don't consider myself as a fanboy)

The third option (and the correct one) is that I was just pointing out the inaccuracies of your statement/question. Further, when put in context, it's clear that Apple is using seasonal references as generic. The same thing happened with the beta release of Yosemite. People were parsing the statement that there would be beta releases this summer, and freaking that the first didn't come until mid-August, when summer was coming to a close.

Done here and moving on.
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In my country Fall or September is generally considered September the first onwards.
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In my country Fall or September is generally considered September the first onwards.
You must be on the metric system or something.

Fall has been used to describe after Labor Day (unofficial end of summer) in the US for forever.
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You must be on the metric system or something.

Fall has been used to describe after Labor Day (unofficial end of summer) in the US for forever.
Labour day? Never heard of it. I labour Monday to Friday!
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First day of Fall this year is September 22.
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You must be on the metric system or something.

Fall has been used to describe after Labor Day (unofficial end of summer) in the US for forever.
Yeah, after Labor day kids are in school and summer vacations have ended. It may not be official but for the most part everyone I know considers the beginning of Sept to be the start of fall.
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Most people in the US (me) typically see the seasons as:

Fall > Sept/Oct/Nov
Winter > Dec/Jan/Feb
Spring > Mar/Apr/May
Summer > Jun/Jul/Aug

At least I think that would be the general consensus, even if not technically accurate
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Most people in the US (me) typically see the seasons as:

Fall > Sept/Oct/Nov
Winter > Dec/Jan/Feb
Spring > Mar/Apr/May
Summer > Jun/Jul/Aug

At least I think that would be the general consensus, even if not technically accurate
Exactly what I was about to type, and exactly how I teach it to my students.
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Fall > Sept/Oct/Nov
Winter > Dec/Jan/Feb
Spring > Mar/Apr/May
Summer > Jun/Jul/Aug
That's what I go by, its so much simpler and the weather tends to fall into place with this as well, i.e., coldest months are Dec/Jan/Feb, hottest are Jun/Jul/Aug etc.
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