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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:10 PM   #26
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The shorter cable is nice. It makes it more convenient to use with docks or the Seagate Thunderbolt HD adapter that I have.
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:11 PM   #27
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Thunderbolt is a dead non-starter. USB3 is on course to win the fight.
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:13 PM   #28
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Thunderbolt is a dead non-starter. USB3 is on course to win the fight.
Not good for us.

TB can become a FireWire port, a Gigabit Port, an extension for the PCIe port to expand graphic card capabilities, etc, not to mention connect to a display and the display becomes a hub, etc.

USB3.0 cannot.

TB is a PCIe extension directly connected to the motherboard, kind of like the now dead ExpressCard.
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:14 PM   #29
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Nah... I'm waiting for oxygen-free SuperHD Monster Thunderbolt cables...
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:15 PM   #30
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If you've known about it for a week, it would have been helpful if you'd told us about it at any point.
And that matters how? Telling MacRumors about good Apple/mac related info has no relation to whether the info is written up as an article. The articles are written up on their own schedule. Sure I am happy about the article quality here, not perfect but one of the best rumour sites (quality wise out there).

Just don't expect your telling MacRumors anything to magically translate into a speedily written article based on your info. Not gonna happen.
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:18 PM   #31
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Chill out peasants. It's only 50 bucks. If it offends you that much go buy something else.
Haha!
what are these lower class people doing on an apple forum.
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:20 PM   #32
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Judging by this... How much will the 10 metre one cost?
Going by the extra cost of the longer option, it works about to $7.50 per meter? That's expensive wire!
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:20 PM   #33
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Cool.
Not really:
Active Thunderbolt Cables Are Hot Cables

I wait for the next (cooler) cable generation.
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:20 PM   #34
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Thank you apple for giving us this awesome port that makes the iMac, MacBook Air and Mac Mini so powerful and upgradeable without making them big and bulky with lots of extra ports. I was a huge fan of firewire 800, using it for all my external hard drives, now we finally have something even better.


For all the haters who think it's a failure just like firewire LOL. It's real simple and you just don't get it. I could audibly hear a huge difference in how my hard drives worked over Firewire vs USB, Firewire smooth as butter just like esata, usb noisy and choppy. Looking at the speed of USB 3 is like looking at megapixels of a camera.
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:21 PM   #35
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Thunderbolt is a dead non-starter. USB3 is on course to win the fight.
Thunderbolt won't be ubiquitous like USB 3.0. However, it can still be useful. I don't know why Intel doesn't insist on it as part of the Ultrabook spec (instead they focus on silly things like Wi-Di and touchscreens). It would be the perfect port for a universal docking station, since it has greater capabilities than USB 3.0. Apple has the right idea with the Thunderbolt monitor. With the cable down to a more reasonable $29 and a smaller size, maybe we'll see some companies take it more seriously. The $300 docks are a start, but we really need to get these down below $200 before anyone will notice. Decent USB 3.0 docks are about $150.
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:23 PM   #36
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Hopefully Monster comes out with a gold plated thunderbolt cable, I need it to be faster.
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:23 PM   #37
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AFAIK the ends of the cable enable the high speed and low latencies by adapting to the electrical characteristics of the copper. That's all. Just like the newly announced optical cables, all the ends do is manage their medium.
Yeah, correct.
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:24 PM   #38
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Judging by this... How much will the 10 metre one cost?
If you need it, you don't care.
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:25 PM   #39
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Thunderbolt won't be ubiquitous like USB 3.0. However, it can still be useful. I don't know why Intel doesn't insist on it as part of the Ultrabook spec (instead they focus on silly things like Wi-Di and touchscreens). It would be the perfect port for a universal docking station, since it has greater capabilities than USB 3.0. Apple has the right idea with the Thunderbolt monitor. With the cable down to a more reasonable $29 and a smaller size, maybe we'll see some companies take it more seriously. The $300 docks are a start, but we really need to get these down below $200 before anyone will notice. Decent USB 3.0 docks are about $150.
Heh, I'd rather have a touchscreen than a thunderbolt port.
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:25 PM   #40
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Take 1 inch and $10 off my lightning to 30 pin adapter!
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:26 PM   #41
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Thunderbolt is a dead non-starter. USB3 is on course to win the fight.
I hear one day they might figure out how to put both types of ports on the same computer!

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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:27 PM   #42
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Cool. I'll buy one of these to connect to my.... nothing.
Exactly. I can just use USB cables from Monoprice for $1.50.
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:27 PM   #43
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Haha!
what are these lower class people doing on an apple forum.
This question has often plagued me!

No seriously, I just think everyone needs to chill out and whine less.
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:28 PM   #44
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Chill out peasants. It's only 50 bucks. If it offends you that much go buy something else.
Quoted for attitude. Magic.
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:29 PM   #45
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I need a Thunderbolt to USB 3.0 adaptor. They have one for Firewire and Ethernet, why not USB 3.0. WTH Apple!
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:35 PM   #46
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Excellent, now the Belkin Thunderbolt box is only $299 + $29
+ 199 US$, if you need/want eSATA.

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USB 3.0 put the pressure on TB. Good! When there are choices, the consumer wins!
Reatime applications over USB 3.0? Target disk mode over USB 3.0? ≈ 500 MByte/s read speed over USB 3.0? Nope!
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:36 PM   #47
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weren't people asking for bigger, longer & uncut?
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:38 PM   #48
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If you've known about it for a week, it would have been helpful if you'd told us about it at any point.
I had thought about submitting it to MR but i thought it wasn't exactly front page news.

Just incase anyone wondered, i saw these cables while checking out a BTO mac mini, and it gave me the option of buying the two cables, and i thought "huh, they do a 0.5m cable now."
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:38 PM   #49
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Thunderbolt is a dead non-starter. USB3 is on course to win the fight.
Which fight?
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Old Jan 9, 2013, 04:39 PM   #50
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So basically one is still $10 overpriced and the other is $20 overpriced?
Then why don't you start producing them and selling them by the thousands at your better price? Looks like a great opportunity for you.
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