Do you recommend the CleanMyMac app?
Keep Your Mac Clean With CleanMyMac Double Pack
If not what do you recommend for maintenance?
Keep Your Mac Clean With CleanMyMac Double Pack
If not what do you recommend for maintenance?
I'm using it.
Rather pain-free, but it doesn't get rid of all the files though. You gotta manually search for them.
All in all it's not bad.
I would not recommend CleanMyMac, based on the number of complaints that have been posted in this forum and elsewhere. As an example: CleanMyMac cleaned too much. Here's a recent example. While you may not have experienced problems yet, enough people have that it's wise to avoid it, especially since there are free alternatives that have better reputations, such as Onyx.Do you recommend the CleanMyMac app?
I would not recommend CleanMyMac, based on the number of complaints that have been posted in this forum and elsewhere. As an example: CleanMyMac cleaned too much. Here's a recent example. While you may not have experienced problems yet, enough people have that it's wise to avoid it, especially since there are free alternatives that have better reputations, such as Onyx.
You don't need "cleaner" or "maintenance" apps to keep your Mac running well, and some of these apps can do more harm than good. Most only remove files/folders or unused languages or architectures, which does nothing more than free up some drive space, with the risk of deleting something important in the process.
These apps will not make your Mac run faster or more efficiently, since having stuff stored on a drive does not impact performance, unless you're running out of drive space. In fact, deleting some caches can hurt performance, rather than help it, since more system resources are used and performance suffers while each cache is being rebuilt.
Many of these tasks should only be done selectively to troubleshoot specific problems, not en masse as routine maintenance.
Mac OS X does a good job of taking care of itself, without the need for 3rd party software. Among other things, it has its own maintenance scripts that run silently in the background on a daily, weekly and monthly basis, without user intervention.
If you're having performance issues, this may help:
In most cases, app removal software including CMM doesn't do a thorough job of finding and removing files/folders related to deleted apps. For more information, read this and this. If you just want to delete the app, drag the .app file to the trash. No other software needed. If you want to completely remove all associated files/folders, no removal apps will do the job.Residual files do stayed behind after applications are deleted.
That is false. Your system doesn't get slower simply because files are stored on the drive, unless you're almost out of drive space. Having data or apps stored on the drive has no impact on performance. Performance is affected by what you have running on your Mac, not what's stored on the drive.They do slow down the system as time goes by.
In most cases, app removal software including CMM doesn't do a thorough job of finding and removing files/folders related to deleted apps. For more information, read this and this. If you just want to delete the app, drag the .app file to the trash. No other software needed. If you want to completely remove all associated files/folders, no removal apps will do the job.
The most effective method for complete app removal is manual deletion:
That is false. Your system doesn't get slower simply because files are stored on the drive, unless you're almost out of drive space. Having data or apps stored on the drive has no impact on performance. Performance is affected by what you have running on your Mac, not what's stored on the drive.
I have always recommended complete app removal via the Finder, rather than simply dragging the .app to the trash or using ineffective apps like CMM that sometimes leave behind much larger files than they delete. You're welcome to use any app you wish, but CMM is a basically useless app, ineffective what it claims to do and potentially problematic for many users. Such apps are unnecessary for keeping a Mac running well.Your system don't get slow because the files stay on your Mac. But it does get slowed down when these files are ran unnecessarily. Deletion of apps via drag and drop to trash bin is not a good way, whether you believe it or not.
I did in fact use your method outlined in your post in another thread for almost complete app deletion, except for those relevant files that aren't named use the app's name. Thanks for that!
CleanMyMac shouldn't be a complete solution, but personally for me, it serves as an additional tool for me to view additional files I have previously no idea where they reside.
I ran CleanMyMac the time I installed Mt. Lion. My last scan was last January 9, '13 and it recovered a total space of 11.15GB. So far, I haven't had any problems with it. I usually use it when uninstalling applications, and seldom use it to scan junk files to delete it.
Honestly, when I read all the complains, I don't want to open this application again before it wrecks my Mac.
Thank you for all the warnings.
One more thing, is Onyx available now in Mt. Lion? I haven't downloaded Onyx yet because my CleanMyMac was just doing great.
Good advice!so maybe just leave your Mac alone
Good advice!
Anyone with that experience would know how to properly maintain their Mac without using such apps.Some of us might actually know what we're doing. Some of us might have used Unix and Unix-like systems for a couple of decades, some of us might be *nix system administrators with degrees in computer science and finally some of us just might be OCD enough to not want to leave crap all over our systems.
It wasn't condescending. It was serious. Such apps are not necessary to properly maintain a Mac.But thanks for the condescending advice.
I would not recommend CleanMyMac, based on the number of complaints that have been posted in this forum and elsewhere. As an example: CleanMyMac cleaned too much. Here's a recent example. While you may not have experienced problems yet, enough people have that it's wise to avoid it, especially since there are free alternatives that have better reputations, such as Onyx.
You don't need "cleaner" or "maintenance" apps to keep your Mac running well, and some of these apps can do more harm than good. Most only remove files/folders or unused languages or architectures, which does nothing more than free up some drive space, with the risk of deleting something important in the process.
These apps will not make your Mac run faster or more efficiently, since having stuff stored on a drive does not impact performance, unless you're running out of drive space. In fact, deleting some caches can hurt performance, rather than help it, since more system resources are used and performance suffers while each cache is being rebuilt.
Many of these tasks should only be done selectively to troubleshoot specific problems, not en masse as routine maintenance.
Mac OS X does a good job of taking care of itself, without the need for 3rd party software. Among other things, it has its own maintenance scripts that run silently in the background on a daily, weekly and monthly basis, without user intervention.
If you're having performance issues, this may help:
Anyone with that experience would know how to properly maintain their Mac without using such apps.
It wasn't condescending. It was serious. Such apps are not necessary to properly maintain a Mac.
I've never suggested anything like that, although some such apps do delete files without asking first.I don't understand your reasoning. You sounded as if there is this magic button where once you pressed, it will just delete whatever "trash" there is in your system without further prompting you.
What "redundant files"? Give an example.What they do is categorically search through your system and find redundant files,
That's the point. There is no need to "maintain" OS X, with or without such apps, as OS X takes care of itself.It is illogical to ask experienced users to manually maintain their systems,
The Finder method I posted is specifically related to removing apps, not general maintenance. Searching is faster and more effective in identifying what app components are installed, since not every app stores components in the same locations.An app like that is not so different from your method of "manually" searching for all the files from the finder, because I could jolly well say that isn't truly manual enough, since you used filters. You should be search through folders and looking through files yourself one by one without resorting to finder filters shouldn't you?
Not evil. Just unnecessary, ineffective and potentially problematic.You make it sounds as if all Mac cleaning apps are evil,
It's not condescending to inform users of the facts and to warn them about apps that are unnecessary and have reputations for causing problems. The fact that a few will so fiercely defend such apps leads me to wonder if such protests are veiled shilling attempts. Honestly, use the app if you want, but there is nothing wrong with notifying new users that others have had problems with such apps and that such apps are not needed.and at the same time condescending to a point I personally feel you think all users are ignorant about upkeeping their Mac systems.
I have never claimed that the manual method of using Finder to identify and delete app components is "my" method. Also, I've never suggested anything resembling "my way or the highway". I inform users of the facts and warn them when appropriate. What they choose to do with that information is up to them. I have no vested interest in anyone buying or not buying any app. It makes me wonder why some would push so hard for people to buy an app in the face of clear evidence that they're not needed, have free alternatives with much better reputations and have a history of causing problems for some users.While I compliment you for posting your method for manual app deletion, I can't say its either your way or the highway.
Good for you. Congratulations.I use CleanMyMac and my system is running fine.