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Tulani

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Do you feel there is need for a different build?
Don't we need something fresh? ImageUploadedByTapatalk1358094394.931659.jpg
 

hafr

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Do you feel there is need for a different build?
Don't we need something fresh? View attachment 389999

Since the iPhone was released, I can honestly say the only thing that has really made me go "yeah, this is it, I want this!" is the e-ink back screen of the Yota phone.

I'm not too bothered with the design resembling that of the first iPhone, but I'd absolutely love to have that second e-ink display!
 

Small White Car

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I would like something different ;)

The front of the iPhone is going to be a piece of glass, unless you have some radical idea for an iPhone Shuffle or something. So when talking about changes, that leaves the back of the phone.

Since we've started we've had a curved aluminum back, a curved plastic back, a flat glass back, and now a flat aluminum back.

Those seem like, I dunno, changes to me. But apparently you don't see it that way. So you're going to have to fill us in on exactly what you consider a change, since that series of alterations went un-noticed by you.
 

Tulani

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The front of the iPhone is going to be a piece of glass, unless you have some radical idea for an iPhone Shuffle or something. So when talking about changes, that leaves the back of the phone.

Since we've started we've had a curved aluminum back, a curved plastic back, a flat glass back, and now a flat aluminum back.

Those seem like, I dunno, changes to me. But apparently you don't see it that way. So you're going to have to fill us in on exactly what you consider a change, since that series of alterations went un-noticed by you.

Don't be too incensed by my post, its just debate mate.
 

sulpfiction

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Aug 16, 2011
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The front of the iPhone is going to be a piece of glass, unless you have some radical idea for an iPhone Shuffle or something. So when talking about changes, that leaves the back of the phone.

Since we've started we've had a curved aluminum back, a curved plastic back, a flat glass back, and now a flat aluminum back.

Those seem like, I dunno, changes to me. But apparently you don't see it that way. So you're going to have to fill us in on exactly what you consider a change, since that series of alterations went un-noticed by you.

There is a lot of room for change on the front. A lot of wasted space above and below the display. The physical home button is also in need of some innovation. It works and its an iOS device staple and its not going anywhere anytime soon. But I believe it's the weak link in both in form and function.
 

Tulani

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Lets try put another competitive perspective to the discussion, despite Samsung's perceived inferior material build has it not genuinely done better in coming up with fresher handset designs than the iPhone? eg the progression of the S2 to the S3....maybe?
 

vastoholic

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Lets try put another competitive perspective to the discussion, despite Samsung's perceived inferior material build has it not genuinely done better in coming up with fresher handset designs than the iPhone? eg the progression of the S2 to the S3....maybe?

What do you think? If you're going to start a debate, then please fill us in on your perspective and thoughts as well.

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I don't think it's been that much of a fresher handset design change from the S2 to the S3. For sure, more than from the 3G to 3Gs or 4 to 4s. But it's not exactly radical. Neither are apple's design changes. They are slowly progressive.

I personally would like to see a little less wasted space on front. I don't really even care what the back looks like that much as long as the camera works. I still don't know what I would want from the home button area. I don't know what I would do to replace it or if I even want it to be replaced with anything.
 

scaredpoet

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Lets try put another competitive perspective to the discussion, despite Samsung's perceived inferior material build has it not genuinely done better in coming up with fresher handset designs than the iPhone? eg the progression of the S2 to the S3....maybe?

Design taste is subjective. What you call a "progression," I call "throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks." And with Samsung so far, nothing has stuck.

And their biggest problem, IMO, is that their phones are movable billboards for the carrier and the network they're on. I can look at the screen and see that I'm on Verizon 4G LTE... don't need it plastered all over the place, front and back, thanks.

If they can get rid of all that, that's a good first step. The next would be using less cheap plastic, and something a little more bold. Say what you want about Apple's design, but it uses industrial design to speak for itself, and I like that. And even with that in mind, you can still look at an iPhone on a table or in someone's hand and just KNOW it's an iPhone, as opposed to some random Android device, the model of which you have no idea but you can sure as hell tell which carrier subsidized it.
 

scaredpoet

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Those who fear change will say no.

I don't fear change, but I have yet to see anything else that I like out there. I'm not against Apple taking a risk and doing a physical redesign, but I don't want something different just for the sake of it being different, and no other valid reason for it. Nor do I want it to feel cheap or uselessly flashy. Focus on the function, first.

But Apple will benefit greatly by innovating & creating a fresh new phone.

What would you consider fresh and new? I see a LOT of people saying "Apple needs to innovate!" and yet provide no insight as to what they would find innovate or new or fresh or creative.

By the way: you can't post a picture of a Samsung or other on-the-market device and say "I want that!" because it's already done. Copying what's already out there isn't innovating, nor is it being fresh or new. If you post a picture of X other device, then what you're basically saying is, you want that... in which case, you should just go and buy it.
 

Minhimalism

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You guys are just terrible at posting the correct pictures. OP's post doesn't even have a 4S there, both of those are iPhone 4 models next to the 5. Also the person comparing the SII to the SIII posted an SIII mini instead of the normal model. :mad:
 

pooleman

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But Apple will benefit greatly by innovating & creating a fresh new phone.

Apple is the most successful company on the planet. I think they know what they are doing. These forums were drowning in threads saying that the mini would kill Apple and the mini is outselling the full size iPad 2 to 1. They should keep doing what they are doing because its working.
 

Tulani

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I am loving it guys, lets sweat it out and hear your opinions
 

vastoholic

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You guys are just terrible at posting the correct pictures. OP's post doesn't even have a 4S there, both of those are iPhone 4 models next to the 5. Also the person comparing the SII to the SIII posted an SIII mini instead of the normal model. :mad:

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Ok, my bad. Aside from the placement of the camera and front facing sensors. What's the difference in design here?
 

NewYork88

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Nov 18, 2011
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I had 2 GS3's , they are very cheaply built,honestly...... I prefer the GS2 appearance ,maybe because it looks like a iphone ?!
 

Sedrick

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Apple has to get rid of that huge waste of space top and bottom. Other than that, the only thing that needs a fresh design is the OS. And the size.
 

Zaft

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Jun 16, 2009
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Apple has to get rid of that huge waste of space top and bottom. Other than that, the only thing that needs a fresh design is the OS. And the size.

The bezel was rather big on all the iPhones. On the 5 it is reduced at least compared to older iPhones.
 
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