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Apple's New Fusion Drive Works on Older Macs
![]() Mac developer Patrick Stein has been toying with his own Mac Pro setup and has managed to build his own Fusion Drive using command line tools. Stein configured an internal solid-state drive and a USB-attached traditional hard drive on his system and was able to combine them into a single logical volume as used for Fusion Drive. Quote:
In several follow-up Tumblr posts, Stein details further explorations into how Fusion Drive works, noting that he was able to use not only the default HFS+ file system for OS X with it, but also ZFS. All of Stein's work was performed with a standard installation of OS X 10.8.2. Article Link: Apple's New Fusion Drive Works on Older Macs |
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Now I'm kinda wishing I'd gone for a thick MBP instead of my rMBP and swapped out the ODD
The second of my two biggest complaints is about the meager storage.Still, can't complain about the gorgeous display
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Now another reason I'm glad I didn't get the substantially worse new iMac and opted for the 2011 gen last Wednesday
The process will most likely get simplier, perhaps even an app made what automates the process of making the fusion drive. Then i'd just get a Thunderbolt SSD and stick with my 500GB Internally. I know it says only SATA for now, but you never know whats possible in time. I would gladly open my iMac and fit an SSD, but I bought Apple care with it since I got it at a 60% discount, I don't really don't wanna void it if it can be helped xD. Still, at least I can upgrade the ram to 32GB unlike the new 21.5''. Only gonna cost me 110 quid for that amount of ram.
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Is this really exactly the same as Apple's implementation of Fusion Drive? That wasn't made clear to me by the article.
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This is really cool. He makes a good point about HFS+, though. Looking forward to seeing some solid testing numbers down the road to see if the smart caching in the Fusion drive matches up (or beats) to the caching built into firmware of similar 'hybrid' drives available from WD and others. I might just have to look into throwing something like this together in my Mac Pro.
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Am I thinking of something else or is ZFS that sexy format that could handle the theoretical data limit of the universe, right?
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Is this a stable setup? The article is very technical and doesn't really say if a non-techie could make it work safely. I notice he isn't providing any script to automate the setup process.
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So how can I go about getting this to work on my 2011 Mac Mini??
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Might be time to remove the DVD drive in my MBP and install an SSD. I didn't want to have to deal with split drives and this would be amazing if it worked.
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Just installed this upgrade on my 2010 MBP 2 weeks ago. When Apple announced the Fusion drive I wondered if the current OS X 10.8.2 would recognize and use the hybrid drive in this way, or if Seagate has baked something into this line.
Actually I partitioned the hybrid into 250 for the OS and 500 which I then RAID-1'ed with the existing internal drive. So I don't really know what's going on in there. Everything is definitely faster but also did a clean install of ML so who knows. |
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Good news!
Because initially I thought the Fusion drive was managed/enabled via a software implementation. Later, I heard things making me rethink and see it as a hardware enabled option. Indeed, good news! Hope the software tools mentioned can be published/public
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AFAIK Mountain Lion has built in handling instructions for Fusion drive.
But, on the hardware side, doesn't it require a custom controller? |
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So he has an internal SSD and an external HDD with a single drive letter, what makes that a "fusion" drive? Nothing! There's no proof this is what Apple calls Fusion Drive technology. The article is a fail.
P.S. There's Windows software out there that will combine various drives into a single "hybrid" volume. Does that mean that's "fusion" drive software? I think not. |
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This reminds me of the original CCcloner. The first few iterations had teething issues and broke for every new hardware configuration or OS update. My point being that we will likely see a user friendly utility out of this in a few months Very cool regardless |
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Regardless, my guess is Apple blocks this option in an update. |
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What if there is a thunderbolt SSD with a USB HDD
Great to know how it works! I would like to know if an alternative solution could also work. With a thunderbolt SSD (tSSD) and a USB HDD (uHDD), one installs the whole OS X 10.8.2 on the tSSD and only mounts the uHDD. How the performance looks like?
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I can't wait til there's some easy instructions to get this up and running --- maybe something like trim enabler... I'm currently running vtx3 120gb + 1tb in my mid 2011 iMac!
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It should read more like "Computer Geek manages to emulate Apple's Fusion Drive in his own setup" |
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Correct me if I am wrong, but isnt the Fusion drive just some RAID'ed drive?
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Good news. Means something like the approach in this article may make it so we can create our own Fusion drives.
http://www.petralli.net/2012/10/anal...nal-hard-disk/ |
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Really awesome. Had this question about "fusing" two internal drives together on my Mac Pro when I first heard of the fusion drive. I would love to see some software with a nice UI for n00bz like me that lets you define the drives you want to fuse and the behavior for how to move files from one drive to the other.
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As setting it up requires using Terminal etc I wouldn't say this is something a non techie could do 'safely'. If one was going to try to do it, a backup would most definitely be in order because chances are the data will get screwed at least a couple of times before it all gets set up right.
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