Notebook Refresh to Be Highlight of WWDC, Non-Retina MacBook Pro to Continue?

MacRumors · Apr 28, 2013, 08:07 AM

KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has issued a new report forecasting that the product highlight of Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC), which kicks off on June 10, will be the introduction of new models of the company's MacBook Pro and MacBook Air lines based on Intel's latest Haswell processors. The projection is in line with previous reports from Kuo and other sources, as well as recent claims that Apple will begin ramping up production of the new models in mid-May.

On the MacBook Pro side, Kuo is reversing his earlier predictions suggesting that 2013 would see Apple discontinue the non-Retina MacBook Pro lineup and shift consumers to the slimmer and more expensive Retina line introduced at last year's WWDC. Kuo believes that continued strength of non-Retina MacBook Pro models, particularly the 13-inch line, have led Apple to continue producing the non-Retina lineup for the time being.

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Contrary to our previous projection, we now think Apple will continue to make the MacBook Pro alongside the MacBook Air and Retina MacBook Pro because the 13" MacBook Pro remains the most popular product in the MacBook line. Also, there is still demand in emerging markets, where Internet penetration isn't advanced, for optical disk drives.

Kuo believes that the updated versions of the non-Retina MacBook Pro could begin shipping very soon after WWDC, but that the new Retina MacBook Pro models will begin shipping somewhat later due to production bottlenecks on the displays.

For the MacBook Air, Kuo also believes that the new models will be introduced at WWDC and ship very soon after, but he indicates that Apple is unlikely to include Retina displays in the updated lineup. He believes that cost, thickness, and production concerns will continue to keep Retina displays out of Apple's lowest-cost and thinnest notebook line for the time being.

Article Link: Notebook Refresh to Be Highlight of WWDC, Non-Retina MacBook Pro to Continue?

Nathan20 · Apr 28, 2013, 08:09 AM

There was me hoping iOS 7 would be the highlight of WWDC...

skaertus · Apr 28, 2013, 08:11 AM

Disappointing. Very disappointing. No rMBA. Delayed Haswell rMBP. And the cMBP will continue in production. I hope Kuo is wrong this time.

Simplicated · Apr 28, 2013, 08:12 AM

There, stopped reading right at "analyst". Until there is substantial evidence, I have learnt to turn a deaf ear to analysts' predictions.

DBZmusicboy01 · Apr 28, 2013, 08:12 AM

If apple doesn't announce iOS 7
I will move to android and lose all hope in apple
They have billions and they have no excuses to delay anything. If they disapoint
It's doom for apple

Liquinn · Apr 28, 2013, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by skaertus

Disappointing. Very disappointing. No rMBA. Delayed Haswell rMBP. And the cMBP will continue in production. I hope Kuo is wrong this time.

So my two cMBPs aren't obsolete then?

justperry · Apr 28, 2013, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by skaertus

Disappointing. Very disappointing. No rMBA. Delayed Haswell rMBP. And the cMBP will continue in production. I hope Kuo is wrong this time.

Does that hurt you, NO, plenty of people still want an optical drive and plenty of people still use wired network.

I think it is actually excellent news.

Andy-V · Apr 28, 2013, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DBZmusicboy01

If apple doesn't announce iOS 7

They will. That much is a fact. Whether it'll be an interesting update or not remains to be seen though.

alent1234 · Apr 28, 2013, 08:15 AM

Has intel even started shipping haswel?

Liquinn · Apr 28, 2013, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by justperry

Does that hurt you, NO, plenty of people still want an optical drive and plenty of people still use wired network.

I think it is actually excellent news.

This sorta makes me feel better about not having the retina, I might pick up a 2012 15" rMBP if Apple update the rMBPs in June.

justperry · 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplicated

There, stopped reading right at "analyst". Until there is substantial evidence, I have learnt to turn a deaf ear to analysts' predictions.

He is more right than wrong!

HarryKNN21 · Apr 28, 2013, 08:20 AM

Nice, at least Apple still emphasise the practicality of the classic MacBook Pro.

ohbrilliance · Apr 28, 2013, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by alent1234

Has intel even started shipping haswel?

Yes, to OEMs.

WildCowboy · Apr 28, 2013, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplicated

There, stopped reading right at "analyst". Until there is substantial evidence, I have learnt to turn a deaf ear to analysts' predictions.

Kuo is one analyst you should listen to. He isn't always right, but he's pretty darn good.

Among his correct predictions: 1) That the Retina MacBook Pro would appear alongside non-Retina models instead of as a replacement, 2) Discontinuation of the 17" MacBook Pro, 3) October launch for 13" Retina MacBook Pro, 4) The minor internal tweak to the Apple TV earlier this year.

Liquinn · Apr 28, 2013, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by WildCowboy

Kuo is one analyst you should listen to. He isn't always right, but he's pretty darn good.

Among his correct predictions: 1) That the Retina MacBook Pro would appear alongside non-Retina models instead of as a replacement, 2) Discontinuation of the 17" MacBook Pro, 3) October launch for 13" Retina MacBook Pro, 4) The minor internal tweak to the Apple TV earlier this year.

What's the latest and greatest MBP? The current 2012 cMBP or the early 2013 rMBP? Or both?

The 2012 15" rMBP is going to be pretty cheap if Apple update the 15" rMBP in June.

jreed91 · Apr 28, 2013, 08:28 AM

Pretty much what I expect, notebook refresh alongside 10.9 release. That's usually what they do. Not surprised they're keeping the non-retinas around. The prices are still a bit to high.

Shrink · Apr 28, 2013, 08:29 AM

Unless I have missed something, no one outside of Apple knows what will be announced at WWDC.

All the wailing, gnashing of teeth, and rending of clothing over what will, or will not be announce at the conference is all based on speculation.

Much wasted emotional energy, perhaps...

charlituna · Apr 28, 2013, 08:30 AM

I think he's wrong about WWDC. The software would have revealed the retina models so talking about them made sense but there's not likely to be any new product line in the same boat this year.

So I I think any bumps will just get a press release and possibly before WWDC to hit the early part of the US BTS promo

skaertus · Apr 28, 2013, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Liquinn

So my two cMBPs aren't obsolete then?

They're not obsolete anyway. Would it be obsolete if Apple pulled it off production? I don't think so, because it should still run everything fine.

HishamAkhtar · Apr 28, 2013, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DBZmusicboy01

If apple doesn't announce iOS 7
I will move to android and lose all hope in apple
They have billions and they have no excuses to delay anything. If they disapoint
It's doom for apple

Cook is quoted saying iOS 7 and OSX 10.9 will be previewed at WWDC. Relax.

bushido · Apr 28, 2013, 08:35 AM

seems pretty obvious.

praying that the rMBP isnt getting a redesign already as my old mbp still looks like the current one and im pretty happy about that

yes im shallow i care more about the atheistic than the hardware and id hate having a obsolete rMBP design after only 4 months ^^

sparks9 · Apr 28, 2013, 08:35 AM

looking forward to Haswell MBA, will probably get me one of those

AQUADock · Apr 28, 2013, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Liquinn

So my two cMBPs aren't obsolete then?

So when an item goes out of production it suddenly turns obsolete? You do realize what obsolete means right?

rockyroad55 · Apr 28, 2013, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Liquinn

So my two cMBPs aren't obsolete then?

Haha what?

orangebluedevil · Apr 28, 2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Simplicated

There, stopped reading right at "analyst". Until there is substantial evidence, I have learnt to turn a deaf ear to analysts' predictions.

Not sure of you point because I stopped reading after you said "stopped reading". I'd be an idiot to listen to someone that didn't even read the article.

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skaertus macrumors 65816 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brazil	Disappointing. Very disappointing. No rMBA. Delayed Haswell rMBP. And the cMBP will continue in production. I hope Kuo is wrong this time. __________________ 13-inch MacBook 2.4 GHz (early 2008) \| 32 GB new iPad wi-fi + cellular \| 16 GB iPhone 4S \| 32 GB iPod Touch (1st gen) \| 16 GB iPod nano (6th gen)
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Simplicated macrumors 6502a Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ingsoc	There, stopped reading right at "analyst". Until there is substantial evidence, I have learnt to turn a deaf ear to analysts' predictions.
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jreed91 macrumors member Join Date: Jan 2009	Pretty much what I expect, notebook refresh alongside 10.9 release. That's usually what they do. Not surprised they're keeping the non-retinas around. The prices are still a bit to high. __________________ 20" iMac, 2.4 GHz, 2GB Ram, 250GB HD; iPhone 4; The "New" iPad
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Shrink macrumors Demi-God Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New England, USA	Unless I have missed something, no one outside of Apple knows what will be announced at WWDC. All the wailing, gnashing of teeth, and rending of clothing over what will, or will not be announce at the conference is all based on speculation. Much wasted emotional energy, perhaps... __________________ Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. -- Albert Einstein
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charlituna macrumors 601 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA	I think he's wrong about WWDC. The software would have revealed the retina models so talking about them made sense but there's not likely to be any new product line in the same boat this year. So I I think any bumps will just get a press release and possibly before WWDC to hit the early part of the US BTS promo
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Apr 28, 2013, 08:35 AM	#21
bushido macrumors 68040 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Germany, Europe	seems pretty obvious. praying that the rMBP isnt getting a redesign already as my old mbp still looks like the current one and im pretty happy about that yes im shallow i care more about the atheistic than the hardware and id hate having a obsolete rMBP design after only 4 months ^^ __________________ '13 MacBook Pro Retina 2.5 GHz '13 MacBook Pro 2.54 GHz, C2D, 128GB SSD iPhone 5 (white & silver), 16GB iPad 3 white, 32 GB, Wifi+Cellular Apple TV 3
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