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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:12 PM   #51
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Now all they have to do is apply the same tactics again and acquire Google
Is the full moon here already?
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:13 PM   #52
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becasue AAPL has 3x the amount of outstanding shares compaired to goog?
I love my apple products but I believe AAPL is over inflated.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:13 PM   #53
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I never used Lala for the CD sharing, but bought lots of MP3's from there before they were bought by Apple and subsequently shut down. They were the first (that I know of) where if you bought an MP3 from them, you could then stream it to listen anywhere. You could also buy just the streaming for a song for like .10, and there might have even had a match features for streaming too (can't remember for sure though).

I'm still bitter about the service being bought and closed though, it was pretty sweet at the time and there isn't much even now that really match the features and prices.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:14 PM   #54
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Google.
If you used Google correctly, you'd see Apple makes more money in a quarter than Google makes in a year.

The lack of financial understanding is truly hilarious in this forum...hahahaha
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:15 PM   #55
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Chances are Google has more revenue & profits than Apple. They have a search engine, Android, RELIABLE Maps, etc.
"Chances are," huh? Wow. Do you really think you can lie about stuff like this?

Let's look at Q3 2012 earnings for Apple and Google, the most recent quarter for which both companies have data.

Google reported about $14 billion in revenue, and Apple reported… let's see… $35 billion.

Oh, and you mentioned Android?
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:18 PM   #56
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I doubt it, running a government and running a business is completely different. The whole point of a government is to do the essential things that businesses won't touch because there's no profit in it.
Agreed.... Yes, running a Gov't and running a business ARE 2 different things....

But the point I tried to make was that maybe if Gov't was provided with some fresh ideas --- Steve's ideas--- things could be different...

I was just throwing something out there to divert my attention from the GOOGLE v. APPLE word war that had begun to take place on these pages...
Which is NOT what the original first post was about.... this thread got out of hand quickly.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:21 PM   #57
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:24 PM   #58
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"Chances are," huh? Wow. Do you really think you can lie about stuff like this?

Let's look at Q3 2012 earnings for Apple and Google, the most recent quarter for which both companies have data.

Google reported about $14 billion in revenue, and Apple reported… let's see… $35 billion.

Oh, and you mentioned Android?
Forgot to mention ads. That's 95% of their revenue.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:29 PM   #59
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Google.
You need to learn how to use Google then.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:34 PM   #60
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Now all they have to do is apply the same tactics again and acquire Google

Someone doesnt follow the stock market. Apple could never even come close to buying google.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:37 PM   #61
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Someone doesnt follow the stock market. Apple could never even come close to buying google.
In a stock swap they could. However, there would be a lot of regulatory hurdles, not least of which would be that the combined company would have the top two smartphone operating systems. Culturally the two firms wouldn't match, either.

Apple probably will make some acquisitions with its cash pile, but I doubt it will be a "10 figure" or "11 figure' transaction. Those are the kinds of deals that usually fail, and fail spectacularly.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:40 PM   #62
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If you used Google correctly, you'd see Apple makes more money in a quarter than Google makes in a year.

The lack of financial understanding is truly hilarious in this forum...hahahaha

Speaking of lack of financial understanding! Do you even know the definition of revenue? I know you dont so ill fill you in, its money made before any expenses are paid. Google makes tons of cash off ads that require little labor while apples products require more and more labor at every step. Not to mention r and d. I would be shocked if after expenses apple managed to make more money.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:40 PM   #63
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Oh please... Without Google, Apple is nothing.
Trolls gonna Troll.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:41 PM   #64
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Chances are Google has more revenue & profits than Apple. They have a search engine, Android, RELIABLE Maps, etc.
This is like saying market share is more important than profit margins. Yes, Google makes milions and has their fingers in a lot of [free] pies, some of which become revenue streams, but they are making a mess of their search engine with all of the changes. Their recipe for success was simplicity, and search results are no longer simple. Good thing the results are good enough for most people.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:52 PM   #65
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Now all they have to do is apply the same tactics again and acquire Google

Yeah, because that would be allowed...
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:55 PM   #66
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Now all they have to do is apply the same tactics again and acquire Google
Happened in the first post... cannot say I am surprised though.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:55 PM   #67
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If Steve were alive, he'd be invited to sit with Obama to figure a way out of the Finacial mess this country is in..... He maybe couldn't fix it right away, but there would be some unique ideas thrown out there, I'd bet !
No.

If that was the case, why wasnt he asked to do that before he died, say a year or 2 before when he was healthy?

He was a business man, not a bloody magician.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:56 PM   #68
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This is like saying market share is more important than profit margins. Yes, Google makes milions and has their fingers in a lot of [free] pies, some of which become revenue streams, but they are making a mess of their search engine with all of the changes. Their recipe for success was simplicity, and search results are no longer simple. Good thing the results are good enough for most people.
Guess it is only the canadian Google engine that is broken? US one still works fabulously and is not a mess.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 12:57 PM   #69
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Why are you guys arguing about government and business and stocks and companies? TALK ABOUT LALA. damn.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 01:00 PM   #70
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Speaking of lack of financial understanding! Do you even know the definition of revenue? I know you dont so ill fill you in, its money made before any expenses are paid. Google makes tons of cash off ads that require little labor while apples products require more and more labor at every step. Not to mention r and d. I would be shocked if after expenses apple managed to make more money.
You're kidding, right?

Apple has more revenues than Google. Apple has higher profits than Google. These are facts.

The notion that Google ads generate revenue with very little expenses is likely true, but Google spends a ton of money on projects that make little to no profits.

For the last reported quarter, Google had an operating margin of 28%. Apple had an operating margin of 35%. Apple's margins are considered very high for a predominantly hardware company. Google's margins are average for a predominantly software company.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 01:01 PM   #71
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I always thought that the whole "write a number on a piece of paper" thing was just in movies. I guess that it reduces the shock of saying a huge number out loud?
I've done this as well (albeit for purchases much less than $80 million). But for houses, cars, jewelry, yes, this does sometimes work.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 01:03 PM   #72
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you need to learn how to use google then.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 01:03 PM   #73
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Tips on how Steve Jobs bought a company:

1) He made an offer
2) It was accepted

For bonus points, pass the offer on a piece of paper for added oomph.
I bet it was really not quite so simple and that number written on the paper was the result of a dozen or so accoiuntants working over over to come up with value.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 01:03 PM   #74
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Chances are Google has more revenue & profits than Apple.
... are you serious?
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 01:12 PM   #75
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Speaking of lack of financial understanding! Do you even know the definition of revenue? I know you dont so ill fill you in, its money made before any expenses are paid. Google makes tons of cash off ads that require little labor while apples products require more and more labor at every step. Not to mention r and d. I would be shocked if after expenses apple managed to make more money.
Seriously? Do i have to use Google for you?

LTM ending Sept Net Income: Apple = $41.7B ; Google = $10.6B

I was never talking about revenue. I said money...net income is probably a great reflection of earnings for tech companies as asset base is low. We can speak fcf but i don't think you have a sophisticated enough understanding to make reasonable arguments there.

BTW, net income takes into account all the expenses that you speak of above.
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