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ZeRoLiMiT

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I found some MacBooks in Craigslist

One 2.4 4gigs ram 2011 $700.00 cash

And. 2.5 4gigs ram brand new 2012 $950.00 cash

What do you guys recommend?
 

macs4nw

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I found some MacBooks in Craigslist One 2.4 4gigs ram 2011 $700.00 cash And. 2.5 4gigs ram brand new 2012 $950.00 cash
What do you guys recommend?

Compare the specs against similarly equipped units currently on the APPLE website. Provided the laptops are in good, working condition, and no older than about a year to 18 mos, I would only consider buying, in light of the inherent risk associated with used/without warranty equipment, if the sellers asking price is no more than about 50% max of the new equipment's prices. Insist on meeting the seller in person, and trust your gut.

If you decide to go for it, do get a legible, detailed receipt, including date, sellers full name & address, device description and serial #. Good luck!
 

thekev

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If you decide to go for it, do get a legible, detailed receipt, including date, sellers full name & address, device description and serial #. Good luck!

This last part is worthless. I can understand if you're concerned about buying potentially stolen goods, but you won't be able to enforce any kind of a warranty request or any real guarantee through a private seller. It's also understandable if they don't want to give out their home address to a complete stranger. If the Apple Store can tell you who it's registered to, meeting there and conducting the transaction outside of it is a better option. Where I agree with you is that the OP should check the exact configurations against what is available new or refurbished through Apple and their resellers prior to making a used purchase. There are a lot of dumb purchases made by uneducated buyers.
 

macs4nw

macrumors 601
This last part is worthless. I can understand if you're concerned about buying potentially stolen goods, but you won't be able to enforce any kind of a warranty request or any real guarantee through a private seller. It's also understandable if they don't want to give out their home address to a complete stranger. If the Apple Store can tell you who it's registered to, meeting there and conducting the transaction outside of it is a better option. Where I agree with you is that the OP should check the exact configurations against what is available new or refurbished through Apple and their resellers prior to making a used purchase. There are a lot of dumb purchases made by uneducated buyers.

The receipt is not intended to enforce a warranty request, but rather to 'save your bacon', if it turns out the laptop was stolen. With that receipt, you can also take the seller to court, if he/she materially misrepresented the merchandise to you.

Without a complete receipt, you're SOL.
If the seller is unwilling to give you one, that should be a giant red flag.
 

thekev

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The receipt is not intended to enforce a warranty request, but rather to 'save your bacon', if it turns out the laptop was stolen. With that receipt, you can also take the seller to court, if he/she materially misrepresented the merchandise to you.

Without a complete receipt, you're SOL.
If the seller is unwilling to give you one, that should be a giant red flag.

Trying to take a thief to small claims court would be a thankless task. If you look at the threads on here regarding people selling their iphones, many of them insist on meeting in a public place. Like I said, a better option would be if Apple is able to verify who it's registered to at the Apple Store or something of that sort. That would be far more useful than an attempt to ID the seller and take them to court later if it turns out to be stolen.
 

ZeRoLiMiT

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I was going to meet them in Starbucks. What I wanted to know was the 2.4 system almost the same performance then the 2.5 system? Would it make a big difference on system performance

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If it is stolen would I get in trouble?
 

Vudoo

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Sep 30, 2008
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Besides CPU and RAM, we would need more information to assess if there is a big difference between the two. What screen size, type and resolution, video card, hard drive type and size and etcetera. There's a lot more to a computer besides CPU and RAM that makes up overall performance.

If the system is stolen, you could get in trouble under state or local law but not federal law since it's under $5000.

In the United States, Receipt of stolen property is a federal crime under 18 U.S.C. § 2315, defined as knowingly receiving, concealing, or disposing of stolen property with a value of at least $5,000 that also constitutes interstate commerce (i.e., has been transported across state lines).

A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the following facts are proven:
  • The person received or concealed or stored or disposed of items of stolen property.
  • The items were moving as, or constituted a part of, interstate commerce.
  • The items had a value in excess of $5,000.
  • The person acted knowingly and willfully.
The government must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the person either received, concealed, stored, sold, or disposed of the stolen property.

To be guilty of the offense, a person must know that the property had been stolen, but he need not know that it was moving as, or constituted a part of, interstate commerce. The term "interstate commerce" merely refers to the movement of property from one U.S. state into another; and it is sufficient if the property has recently moved interstate as a result of a transaction or a series of related transactions that have not been fully completed or consummated at the time of the person's acts as alleged.

All US states also have laws regarding receipt of stolen property; however, there usually is no minimum dollar amount in many jurisdictions, and, of course, the requirement in Federal law regarding interstate commerce does not apply. Also, in many states (Ohio, for example), the burden to prove criminal intent is not as stringent or is nonexistent.[5] This means that one can be charged with the crime - usually a minor degree of felony - even if the person did not know the item in question was stolen. In the Ohio case of State v. Awad, the goods did not need to actually be stolen, just represented as such.[6]

Receiving stolen property and possession of stolen property are treated as separate offenses in some jurisdictions. The distinguishing element is when the person knew that the property was stolen. If the person knew that the property was stolen at the time he received it, the crime is receiving stolen property. If the person did not know the property was stolen at the time she received it but found out after receiving possession, the crime is possession of stolen property.

The state must prove that the defendant received or possessed the property for a dishonest purpose. If, for example, the person acquired possession for the purpose of returning the property to its lawful owner, no crime has been committed.
 

ZeRoLiMiT

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Talked to the guy and they both have proof or purchase.

The $900 machine is the new system
2.5GHz dual-core Intel Core i5
Turbo Boost up to 3.1GHz
4GB 1600MHz memory
500GB 5400-rpm hard drive1
Intel HD Graphics 4000

$700 system has

2.4 ghz
8gig 1333 ram ddr3
Hd graphics 3000 512
128 SSD
 

Vudoo

macrumors 6502a
Sep 30, 2008
763
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Dallas Metroplex
In terms of performance...

  1. The SSD will give you the most noticeable performance difference over a 5400 RPM HD, but will 128 GB be large enough for you? Not to mention you can always add a SSD later if needed.
  2. The HD 4000 over the HD 3000 will make a bigger difference if you will be doing any gaming.
  3. If the 2011 is also an i5, then you won't see much difference in terms of CPU. If it's an i7, then that's a different story.
  4. 4 GB of RAM is sufficient unless you do a lot of VMs, photo or video editing but RAM is easy to replace and fairly cheap.
 
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