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Old Jan 20, 2013, 04:16 PM   #1
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Extremists Muslims enforcing Shaira Law on the steets...

Just to break up the endless parade of gun threads, here's one demonizing a religious entity.

These are some recently published video clips of muslims enforcing Shaira Law on the streets of London, harassing people for completely legal things and vandalizing public property. These people should be shot (preferably, by one of the many pro-gun crazies ;P)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=beb_1358359911
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 04:18 PM   #2
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Just to break up the endless parade of gun threads, here's one demonizing a religious entity.

These are some recently published video clips of muslims enforcing Shaira Law on the streets of London, harassing people for completely legal things and vandalizing public property. These people should be shot (preferably, by one of the many pro-gun crazies ;P)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=beb_1358359911
They should just start rounding these people up and deporting them before they actually have enough votes to implement Shaira LAw.
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 04:20 PM   #3
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Just to break up the endless parade of gun threads, here's one demonizing a religious entity.
Right now, I'd trade a few gun nuts and our lax gun laws for a few Muslims.
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 04:21 PM   #4
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Why do you call them extremists?
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 04:25 PM   #5
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Why do you call them extremists?
If they were of X faith doing the same thing I would still call them extremists. It's not what a balanced and rational person would do, especially in London. People get smashed on the streets with cheap whiskey.
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 04:29 PM   #6
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They should just start rounding these people up and deporting them before they actually have enough votes to implement Shaira LAw.
yeah! great idea for a very real problem (the implementation of Sharia law in the UK or the US)...

Or better yet, round them up, deport them as you say - preferably on trains to save some money... of course, to do that they'd have to be stripped of their rights as citizens, but that can easily be fixed by some well designed changes in the law.... and concentrate them in some sort of closed facility, like a camp or something, so they don't pose the same danger anywhere in the world.

How is it possible that nobody else has thought of such practical solution before!?!? genius!

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They should just start rounding these people up and deporting them before they actually have enough votes to implement Shaira LAw.

I thought you and your gun-owning brethren are there to protect against tyranny.
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 04:37 PM   #8
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They should just start rounding these people up and deporting them before they actually have enough votes to implement Shaira LAw.
And if they were born in England where do you propose we deport them to?
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And if they were born in England where do you propose we deport them to?
Guantanamo Bay for being public enemies of the US.
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 04:56 PM   #10
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The men have been filmed walking the streets of London and calling white women "naked animals with no self respect".

The group is also shown taking away alcohol booze from revellers. They also filmed a cyclist being treated after a road accident, and claimed he was injured because he was "unclean".

A member of the group says: "We don't care if you are appalled at all."

Scotland Yard has said it was investigating.
Shot on a mobile phone at night in Waltham Forest area of London, a number of men are seen shouting "this is a Muslim area" towards white Britons, police said.

One video says: "From women walking the street dressed like complete naked animals with no self respect, to drunk people carrying alcohol, to drunks being killed in the middle of the road, we try our best to capture and forbid it all."

The men also tell a group of women they need to forbid themselves "from dressing like this and exposing themselves outside the mosque".

Mohammed Shafiq of the Ramadhan Foundation, a Muslim organisation which campaigns for a peaceful co-existence among communities, has condemned the group's behaviour.
In US, at least, we mostly do not tolerate religious/ethnic policing of neighborhoods. Are there non-Muslim neighborhoods in Riyadh where the residents can enforce alternative law? If you move to a country, you need to accept the customs of that country, not create your own enclave. This kind of thing is just wrong and should be punished.
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This does seem to be from 2011...
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So the fact that Jewish law applies to some Jewish matters in the UK means you can call those Jews extremists?
Not necessarily, as they don't seek to enforce their opinions, attitudes and perspectives on those who are not of their faith, which is what seems to be happening in the instance cited by the OP.
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How the heck do you manage to live in the United States then?
I don't live in a religious area
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Not necessarily, as they don't seek to enforce their opinions, attitudes and perspectives on those who are not of their faith, which is what seems to be happening in the instance cited by the OP.
Fair point (which is why I changed my post ).
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yeah! great idea for a very real problem (the implementation of Sharia law in the UK or the US)...

Or better yet, round them up, deport them as you say - preferably on trains to save some money... of course, to do that they'd have to be stripped of their rights as citizens, but that can easily be fixed by some well designed changes in the law.... and concentrate them in some sort of closed facility, like a camp or something, so they don't pose the same danger anywhere in the world.

How is it possible that nobody else has thought of such practical solution before!?!? genius!

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wow haha, talk about slippery slope
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According to The Commentator the video was from 2012.

Possibly related though.

http://www.thecommentator.com/articl...CiBNlU.twitter
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And if they were born in England where do you propose we deport them to?
Jail them I guess. Idk.

The ones that come to the UK, and refuse to live by the laws of the UK should be sent back to where they came from. And that applies to anybody.
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Jail them I guess. Idk.

The ones that come to the UK, and refuse to live by the laws of the UK should be sent back to where they came from. And that applies to anybody.
What they do is classed as disturbing the peace.
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What they do is classed as disturbing the peace.
The way I see it is when you immigrate to another country, you're there a few years on a trial period, to make sure you learn the laws and culture and become integrated into your new community. Then you can earn your citizenship.

When somebody shows up, and just thinks they can start enforcing their own rules on the street, or has no willingness to become part of their new community, they need to be deported.
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Jail them I guess. Idk.

The ones that come to the UK, and refuse to live by the laws of the UK should be sent back to where they came from. And that applies to anybody.
Jails are already overcrowded.
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Jails are already overcrowded.
Legalize drugs

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Legalize drugs

problem solved

That just introduces a lot more problems. No dice. Apart from the fact that the majority of those in prison aren't on drug-related offences which legalisation would solve.
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If they were of X faith doing the same thing I would still call them extremists. It's not what a balanced and rational person would do, especially in London. People get smashed on the streets with cheap whiskey.
So it seems eminently balanced and reasonable to try to keep such behaviour out of one's neighbourhood.
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So it seems eminently balanced and reasonable to try to keep such behaviour out of one's neighbourhood.
Yes it would be, but not by vandalizing and causing trouble.
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Yes it would be, but not by vandalizing and causing trouble.
I'd be interested to know what they could be charged with.
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