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Old Jan 22, 2013, 12:24 PM   #1
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Charges won't be filed in Raleigh gun show shooting

http://www.wral.com/charges-won-t-be...ting/12009665/

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RALEIGH, N.C. — Wake County's top prosecutor will not file charges in a weekend shooting at a Raleigh gun show that injured three people.

District Attorney Colon Willoughby said Tuesday that he found no violation of law in what authorities said was an accidental shooting at the Dixie Gun and Knife Show at North Carolina's state fairgrounds on Saturday.

Investigators said Gary Lynn Wilson, 36, of Wilmington, brought a 12-gauge shotgun to the event to sale but that it went off when Wilson removed it from its case at a security checkpoint around 1 p.m.

Three people who were hit by shotgun pellets were treated and released from a local hospital the same day.

The shooting prompted event organizers to close for the rest of the day, but it reopened Sunday without private gun sales.

The Dixie Gun and Knife Show has been held at the fairgrounds for more than 30 years and has had an excellent track record for safety, state fairground police said Saturday.

"If we thought that it was a problem or a hazard or was dangerous, we would not have this show," state fairground Police Chief Joel Keith said.
I think it is absurd that charges won't be filed. It makes little sense to me how three people were hit, tbh. There should be something done in the sense that a gun owner was incapable of handling the weapon safely.

And no, I am not trying to start an argument about how no one should be able to own a gun. I do believe this gun owner should be charged with something though.
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Old Jan 22, 2013, 12:32 PM   #2
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I think it is absurd that charges won't be filed. It makes little sense to me how three people were hit, tbh. There should be something done in the sense that a gun owner was incapable of handling the weapon safely.

And no, I am not trying to start an argument about how no one should be able to own a gun. I do believe this gun owner should be charged with something though.
I agree. I wish there was a law against being stupid.
A misdemeanor would be appropriate, money fine just punishment.

And BTW, it's a SHOT gun, 12 Ga to boot.
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Old Jan 22, 2013, 12:37 PM   #3
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I was at that show on Sunday, the day after it happened.

Virtually everyone I talked to at the show was in agreement that the idiot with the loaded shotgun should be criminally charged with some type of felony.

An accident like that could have easily resulted in much more serious injuries or death.
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Old Jan 22, 2013, 01:38 PM   #4
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Wow. Talk about a stupid decision. I guess the idiot will get the **** sued out of him in civil court.
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Old Jan 22, 2013, 03:41 PM   #5
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I was at that show on Sunday, the day after it happened.

Virtually everyone I talked to at the show was in agreement that the idiot with the loaded shotgun should be criminally charged with some type of felony.

An accident like that could have easily resulted in much more serious injuries or death.
No doubt people were lucky but how does one "accidentally" fire a shot gun once and hit 3 people? I'm serious, I don't get it.
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Old Jan 22, 2013, 03:45 PM   #6
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A bigger question is why was it loaded?
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No doubt people were lucky but how does one "accidentally" fire a shot gun once and hit 3 people? I'm serious, I don't get it.



Either one magic loogie or buckshot.
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Old Jan 22, 2013, 04:18 PM   #8
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No doubt people were lucky but how does one "accidentally" fire a shot gun once and hit 3 people? I'm serious, I don't get it.
Because shotguns typically fire a shell containing multiple projectiles (shot).
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Because shotguns typically fire a shell containing multiple projectiles (shot).
Learn something new everyday.
Now what did you buy at the gun show?
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Because shotguns typically fire a shell containing multiple projectiles (shot).
Quick, ban it!
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Old Jan 22, 2013, 07:31 PM   #11
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How is this possible since all the pro gun people say no one ever gets shot at gun shows?
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Learn something new everyday.
Now what did you buy at the gun show?
A small pocket knife... sorry to disappoint any prurient interests.
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A small pocket knife... sorry to disappoint any prurient interests.
Good thing I didn't have any prurient interests. Well, not about guns that is.
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I'd be curious to know if he does get sued..

I don't think I would but.....
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 12:28 PM   #15
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I wish they would charge him. It may have been an accident but it was still criminally negligent. The gun shows are very clear that you can't bring in loaded firearms. What possessed him to bring a loaded shotgun in the first place, with a round in the chamber? If he "forgot" about it that brings up even more questions, like how you would forget that your gun is loaded and then not notice that it was. And the cherry on top is that somehow he managed to pull the trigger of the gun while taking it out of the case. That takes a special kind of skill

If I was the guy next to him who got shot through the hand this incident may have turned into a murder

Raleigh is my hometown by the way, I've been to this gun show many times and they have very tight security at the front that checks all weapons coming in.
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How is this possible since all the pro gun people say no one ever gets shot at gun shows?
It's possible because they don't want all the media attention that such a court case could attract. They just want people to forget this incident ASAP.
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It's possible because they don't want all the media attention that such a court case could attract. They just want people to forget this incident ASAP.
Yes, if only we would just enforce the gun laws already on the books.
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I wish they would charge him. It may have been an accident but it was still criminally negligent.
To be found criminally negligent, he would have had to break the law.

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Yes, the gun was loaded. He probably didn't realize it was. But if every single accident that ever took place in this world was "criminal," we'd ALL be in jail.

They determined he didn't break the law. Time to move on.
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three gun show shootings in one weekend. I read a couple weeks ago a guy coming out of a gun shop put his gun in the truck and accidentally shot his son in the chest and killed him. People are stupid with guns and leave them loaded and handle them wrong.
people who don't handle their guns responsibly should be held accountable. but We all know the NRA would fight that tooth and nail. as everyone has the right to be stupid.

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Yes, the gun was loaded. He probably didn't realize it was. But if every single accident that ever took place in this world was "criminal," we'd ALL be in jail.

They determined he didn't break the law. Time to move on.
if you don't know your gun is loaded you should not own a gun. It's not a toy that you can play with and be a fool with.
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It's possible because they don't want all the media attention that such a court case could attract. They just want people to forget this incident ASAP.
I was somewhat sarcastically saying how is it possible that someone got shot there when according to the pro gun crowd no one ever gets shot at these things. It doesn't surprise me that they don't want to deal with the court case and didn't file charges...
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if you don't know your gun is loaded you should not own a gun. It's not a toy that you can play with and be a fool with.
I don't disagree that this was a BIG mistake, but it was that, and nothing more - a mistake. What you're saying really isn't far off from saying "if you have an auto accident, you should not own a car."
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To be found criminally negligent, he would have had to break the law.
Don't most states have some kind of law making it illegal to negligently discharge a firearm?

But, you do raise an interesting point. Why don't we have laws mandating not only gun safety training, but, safe gun behavior?

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Yes, the gun was loaded. He probably didn't realize it was. But if every single accident that ever took place in this world was "criminal," we'd ALL be in jail.

They determined he didn't break the law. Time to move on.
Nevertheless, he must have violated the first rule of gun safety for this to happen-- always assume a gun is loaded until you personally verify that it isn't. He "knew" the gun was unloaded, and, it wasn't. Happens all the time.

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I don't disagree that this was a BIG mistake, but it was that, and nothing more - a mistake. What you're saying really isn't far off from saying "if you have an auto accident, you should not own a car."
Yes, but, for some types of "accidents", you should only get one chance to own a car, and, some types of "accidents" should disqualify you from ever driving a car again. And, after two or three significant "accidents", you lose your license to drive a car forever. You shouldn't be allowed to be that accident prone.
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I don't disagree that this was a BIG mistake, but it was that, and nothing more - a mistake. What you're saying really isn't far off from saying "if you have an auto accident, you should not own a car."
tell that to the father who shot is toddler son because it was just a big mistake. if you drive a car in an inappropriate manor you should not be allowed to drive.
the Whole it was an accident excuse is is a big problem in this world.
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Yes, but, for some types of "accidents", you should only get one chance to own a car, and, some types of "accidents" should disqualify you from ever driving a car again. And, after two or three significant "accidents", you lose your license to drive a car forever. You shouldn't be allowed to be that accident prone.
I appreciate your use of the quotation marks. The vast majority of auto collisions are the direct result of operator negligence but are treated like some kind of bizarre coincedence as opposed to an obvious outcome of a deliberate choice.
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I appreciate your use of the quotation marks. The vast majority of auto collisions are the direct result of operator negligence but are treated like some kind of bizarre coincedence as opposed to an obvious outcome of a deliberate choice.
yes it is pretty bad. one way to curb is is make it so insurance only pays the person you ran into or if no one was at fault.
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