Microsoft Surface Pro to Be Released February 9 with $899 Price Tag - Page 2

el-John-o · Jan 22, 2013, 01:15 PM

The thing that's flooring me the most is the batteries here. The iPad has the biggest battery of the three. How can an i5 tablet hold up battery wise to an ARM tablet with a bigger batter?

For me, a long battery life is a MUST with a tablet. It HAS to last all day long without being plugged in once. I just can't see using a tablet that I have to plug in during the day

tann · Jan 22, 2013, 01:16 PM

I wonder what the battery life on this thing will be! Smaller than iPad's and much more powerful...

nagromme · Jan 22, 2013, 01:16 PM

I like the idea of a screen cover that also offers real physical keys.

So... grab an iPad plus Logitech Ultrathin keyboard cover. Comes in 3 colors, attaches magnetically, and unlike the Surface, will hold your tablet in either portrait or landscape. And, since it doesn't try to be a halfway "old-style computer," it doesn't need a fan!

Credit to MS for a visually interesting and original UI, though. I like it. (Kind of like I like the UIs on Star Trek: I might not desire to use them all day, but they look cool!)

iAco · Jan 22, 2013, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronwasserman

They are high.

No they're not. High people think of better ideas than the Surface Pro.

Just look at it. It's a shrunken laptop with a touch screen and detachable keyboard and trackpad!

I see the past looking out the Windows.

It's about Apple and Google today.

KdParker · Jan 22, 2013, 01:17 PM

That price is too steep. Might be a nice tablet, but I just can't justify the cost.

shenfrey · Jan 22, 2013, 01:17 PM

I will never buy a Microsoft product, I don't think I will even buy the 720. Have you seen the 360s interface really? It's shockingly bloated.

pommie82 · Jan 22, 2013, 01:17 PM

I wont use trash like Bill gates rubbish

MacRumorUser · Jan 22, 2013, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KdParker

That price is too steep. Might be a nice tablet, but I just can't justify the cost.

[looks at users sig]

Yet you could justify the cost of a rMBP

xlii · Jan 22, 2013, 01:18 PM

11" MBA for $999 is a better buy.

Renzatic · Jan 22, 2013, 01:19 PM

I'm thinking the battery life will be roughly the same as the MBA, since they're directly comparable.

In other words, you won't be using it all day without plugging it in at least once. It might last 6-7 hours if you use nothing by Metro apps, but I'd guess heavy desktop use would lower that down to around 4 hours or so. This is the biggest weakness of the machine for me, and why I probably won't consider getting one until the Haswell revs come out.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iAco

Just look at it. It's a shrunken laptop with a touch screen and detachable keyboard and trackpad!

er...what's so bad about that?

ItsWelshy · Jan 22, 2013, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macrolido

Looks good but, why a non-Apple product appears on MR?

Because the price is funny.

Microsoft price points, are the modern day knock-knock joke

notjustjay · Jan 22, 2013, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiRez

I don't get this thing. It looks like they took some good ideas but jumbled them together into something that is somehow less than the sum of its parts. I can't imagine choosing this over either an iPad or a MacBook Air (or even one of the many Wndows clones of it). I'm sure they'll sell a few million of these but MS bet the company on it and I don't see this pulling them out of their slow downward spiral.

I have an iPad and have been looking at augmenting it with an ultrabook. I was considering the MacBook Air but after playing with the Surface tablet at the Microsoft Store last month, I am now open to the idea of trying Windows 8.

I might not choose a Surface Pro tablet but I am very interested in the Windows 8 "hybrid tablet/ultrabook" space. I am looking specifically at the Lenovo Yoga 11S and Thinkpad Helix, two "convertible tablets" that might offer the best of both worlds.

CausticPuppy · Jan 22, 2013, 01:20 PM

Kudos to Microsoft for building a subnotebook that can't be used on a standard airplane tray table, unless to take the keyboard off.

JarScott · Jan 22, 2013, 01:21 PM

Can't help thinking Microsoft are being greedy with THIS Surface too. It's barely better than the iPad 4 when you compare the specs.

Renzatic · Jan 22, 2013, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItsWelshy

Because the price is funny.

Microsoft price points, are the modern day knock-knock joke

It's almost the exact same hardware in the MBA with a touch and digitizer enabled, higher resolution screen.

...for $100 less.

Tell me again how that's funny.

inlinevolvo · Jan 22, 2013, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renzatic

I'm sure the 5 minutes you spent with Windows 8 was absolute hell for you.

It could use some spit shine and fine tuning, but it's hardly unusable. Once you learn where all the new stuff is, it's not vastly different than what came before.

It all really comes down to how much you like having a fullscreen start menu. That's about the biggest difference between it and 7 if you ask me.

It was for a few hours setting up my grandfathers laptop. I should have clarified, it is a nightmare for desktop users. The OS is clearly designed for tablets and the OS makes you feel like you are using a tablet in a desktop environment. For example, I can't even manually resize apps to my liking in metro when using a 1080p monitor, I have to use this rather absurd 2/3 1/3 split. I have used windows since DOS, not that I'm a technical guru, but it feels like Microsoft took all the productivity out of the OS while trying to sock it to the iPad. It doesn't work well for the desktop. Sure win 8 is prettier, smarter and faster. But it is a complete disruption in work flow. I'll stick with win 7. Besides, every win user knows to skip every other OS release. Win 8 has worst uptake than vista, and no one today doubts that was a waste.

KdParker · Jan 22, 2013, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac jones

I've tried Windows 8. A horrible experience. They actually are trying to drag back that disaster 'Metro'. They are calling it something else now.

WTF is wrong with them? They have this market share but they are lost

l o s t.

But maybe this thing is really cool. Looks cool.

Been using windows 8 for a while and I don't have any issues with usablity at all.

bassfingers · Jan 22, 2013, 01:23 PM

From my personal experience, the Surface is an engineering marvel.

I'll never wrap my brain around how they managed to fit a quad-core processor in a tablet that size and it still feels slow and unresponsive.

The touch experience is somewhere between the iPad and one of the first touchscreen garmins

shaown · Jan 22, 2013, 01:24 PM

I think this is a great threat to Apple - but not to the iPad. As everyone saying - this is a MBA competitor.

Cheaper (marginally) - has full touch, will be curious to see how it benchmarks. It will be a good test for how quickly full laptops like the MBA will go full touch and will people gravitate to some type of convertible model. I do agree though that other convertible ultrabooks that convert from tablet to full laptop (i.e. Asus) might be a better option.

radio893fm · Jan 22, 2013, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IJ Reilly

If they keep throwing things against the wall one of them might even stick.

Right... like Office, Windows itself the XBox platform... to name a few. But it's ok, keep hating MS.

nagromme · Jan 22, 2013, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renzatic

It's almost the exact same hardware in the MBA with a touch and digitizer enabled, higher resolution screen.

...for $100 less.

Tell me again how that's funny.

$100 less? But the Surface has no keyboard included at that price, vs. the Air's keyboard which offers two important things: backlighting, and adjustable screen angle. Two things you'll find hard to live without once you've tried them.

So at the very least, you'd better add that $100 back onto the Surface, to get at least a keyboard of some kind. Otherwise, you've got a product to compare with tablets, not laptops.

Chupa Chupa · Jan 22, 2013, 01:25 PM

WOW! Microsoft continues its tradition of unappetizing tablets. They'll sell 10s of hundreds.

ItsWelshy · Jan 22, 2013, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renzatic

It's almost the exact same hardware in the MBA with a touch and digitizer enabled, higher resolution screen.

...for $100 less.

Tell me again how that's funny.

I'd sooner pay $100 and get the MBA... Actually I'd sooner pay $500 more and get the air

Are you really comparing a premium OSX laptop with a two-bob Microsoft tablet?

everything-i · Jan 22, 2013, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrlcopy

I love it and windows 8. I feel that the chart should be comparing it to a MPA as well though. Since you have full desktop mode and it's basically a laptop.

My problem is all the switching between desktop and Metro interfaces makes it clunky, if they can make using it overall a more fluid experience then it would be a huge leap forward.

ItsWelshy · Jan 22, 2013, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chupa Chupa

WOW! Microsoft continues its tradition of unappetizing tablets. They'll sell 10s of hundreds.

And both of them will fly out the door.

Does it have a fan? Please tell me it has a fan...

Jan 22, 2013, 01:15 PM	#26
el-John-o macrumors 6502a Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Missouri	The thing that's flooring me the most is the batteries here. The iPad has the biggest battery of the three. How can an i5 tablet hold up battery wise to an ARM tablet with a bigger batter? For me, a long battery life is a MUST with a tablet. It HAS to last all day long without being plugged in once. I just can't see using a tablet that I have to plug in during the day __________________ Windows7 PC - Phenom II 965@4GHz x4 Cores, 4GB DDR3-2133, Radeon HD5870 \| iPhone 5 32GB \| iPad WiFi+3G 64GB \| Mid 2012 MacBook Pro 13", Dual 256GB SSD's in RAID 0, 16GB DDR3-1600
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Jan 22, 2013, 01:16 PM	#27
tann macrumors 6502a Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Oxford, England	I wonder what the battery life on this thing will be! Smaller than iPad's and much more powerful... __________________ 2010 15" MBP i7, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD \|\| Unlocked White 64GB iPhone 5 \|\| 64GB Black iPad 3 Follow me on Twitter!
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Jan 22, 2013, 01:16 PM	#28
nagromme macrumors G4 Join Date: May 2002	I like the idea of a screen cover that also offers real physical keys. So... grab an iPad plus Logitech Ultrathin keyboard cover. Comes in 3 colors, attaches magnetically, and unlike the Surface, will hold your tablet in either portrait or landscape. And, since it doesn't try to be a halfway "old-style computer," it doesn't need a fan! Credit to MS for a visually interesting and original UI, though. I like it. (Kind of like I like the UIs on Star Trek: I might not desire to use them all day, but they look cool!) __________________ nagromme What happens when corporations buy the government? Americans have returned to receiving 1960s wages, despite being twice as productive.
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KdParker macrumors 68000 Join Date: Oct 2010	That price is too steep. Might be a nice tablet, but I just can't justify the cost. __________________ 16g iPhone5 Black ; 16g iPhone5 White; 15" retina - MBP 2.6 GHZ 16 RAM; iPad4 retina
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Jan 22, 2013, 01:17 PM	#31
shenfrey macrumors 6502 Join Date: May 2010	I will never buy a Microsoft product, I don't think I will even buy the 720. Have you seen the 360s interface really? It's shockingly bloated. __________________ 27" Imac, 12GB ram (2009), Macbook Pro Late 2012 Time Capsule (2009 1TB) Apple TV (2012), IPhone 5, iPad (4th Gen)
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Jan 22, 2013, 01:17 PM	#32
pommie82 macrumors regular Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: uk	I wont use trash like Bill gates rubbish
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Jan 22, 2013, 01:18 PM	#34
xlii macrumors 68000 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millis, Massachusetts	11" MBA for $999 is a better buy.
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Jan 22, 2013, 01:20 PM	#38
CausticPuppy macrumors 6502a Join Date: May 2012	Kudos to Microsoft for building a subnotebook that can't be used on a standard airplane tray table, unless to take the keyboard off. __________________ 2011 Mac Mini Server, 16 GB RAM, 256GB Crucial M4 SSD, 500GB HDD + 3TB NAS Retina Macbook Pro 13" - i5/128GB Mac Mini 1.83GHz Core2Duo, 3GB RAM, 60GB SSD iPad3/iPhone4S
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Jan 22, 2013, 01:21 PM	#39
JarScott macrumors 6502 Join Date: May 2011 Location: England, UK	Can't help thinking Microsoft are being greedy with THIS Surface too. It's barely better than the iPad 4 when you compare the specs.
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Jan 22, 2013, 01:23 PM	#43
bassfingers macrumors 6502 Join Date: Nov 2010	From my personal experience, the Surface is an engineering marvel. I'll never wrap my brain around how they managed to fit a quad-core processor in a tablet that size and it still feels slow and unresponsive. The touch experience is somewhere between the iPad and one of the first touchscreen garmins
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Jan 22, 2013, 01:24 PM	#44
shaown macrumors member Join Date: Mar 2011	I think this is a great threat to Apple - but not to the iPad. As everyone saying - this is a MBA competitor. Cheaper (marginally) - has full touch, will be curious to see how it benchmarks. It will be a good test for how quickly full laptops like the MBA will go full touch and will people gravitate to some type of convertible model. I do agree though that other convertible ultrabooks that convert from tablet to full laptop (i.e. Asus) might be a better option.
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Jan 22, 2013, 01:25 PM	#47
Chupa Chupa macrumors 604 Join Date: Jul 2002	WOW! Microsoft continues its tradition of unappetizing tablets. They'll sell 10s of hundreds. __________________ Walled Garden ≠ Prison: "People who use Apple products considered their options, and chose Apple. If they regret their decision, they can dump it at any time." -- Harry McCracken, Technologizer.com
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