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Old Jan 23, 2013, 03:39 PM   #26
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 03:51 PM   #27
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You didn't read the article properly. At about the last third it explains that you are exactly wrong.
You are correct (I did not read the entire article). This means that Apple still buys more chips than Samsung.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 04:59 PM   #28
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Tim says:
"Most prolific period of innovation and new products in Apple's history. New products in every category we make in the past few months."

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Uh, I don't remember seeing a new Mac Pro in the past few months, Tim. Where's the new Pro machine?
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 05:23 PM   #29
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The only point I see to this article post is another worthless apple vs samsung flame war.
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Old Jan 23, 2013, 11:07 PM   #30
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So Samsung spent more money on semiconductors? I don't get what this is supposed to tell us. That they buy more units? That they pay more per unit? Seriously, people will write anything these days for click bait.
It a dumb way to analyze a company unless they use the exact same parts and you are just comparing EXACT LIKE FOR LIKE. But that's never the case.

There are things that Samsung makes that Apple doesn't. Like TVs, appliances, traditional cell phones.

Personally, whomever at Gartner that tracks and releases this info should have their head decapitated. There is NOTHING relevant at all. Not one single Financial analyst worth a crap would use this information for anything other that using the paper it's printed on to line a cage for a bird.

It's a useless study. They might as well study how many rolls of toilet paper each of these companies use in a year, that would be just as relevant.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 02:00 AM   #31
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Really ! Last I read- still had some 65% profits in mobile space and 60% or more market share in tablets !
PROFITS yes, but its selling iPhone at near 100% profit compared to competitors getting 20% or even less, its number of sales you need to compare, not profit, bums on seats drive unit sales, and unit sales drive store revenue, if more people are buying android, then google is making the money in the store, remember, google doesn't make a profit on the hardware, thats up to the hardware manufacturer, it makes its money via the Play store, apple makes profit on both hardware AND iTunes sales, so its easy for apple to post a bazillion % market share on profit terms. Creative accountancy at its best.

Android sells more devices, a LOT more devices, because they are cheap, and do basically the same function. oh and they offer more choice of device form factor to please everyone.

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That was a joke, right?
nope, id like some love given to the desktop range, i feel the latest iMac is a Practical joke, im going to have to build a hackintosh for my next "upgrade" and use my existing iMac as a display, the sealing of the unit to prevent ANY user maintenance or upgrades was the last straw for me, coupled with the lack of any Mac pro upgrade, which would have been my only other option, hopefully they will finally get the Thunderbolt pros out this year before i plan to upgrade.
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Old Jan 24, 2013, 05:49 AM   #32
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I'm sure LCD TVs and monitors alone would account for a large percentage of orders that Apple wouldn't have made themselves because they don't overlap Samsung in every product category, just smart phones, computers and related technology.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 05:58 AM   #33
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Hey, anyone remembers when Apple topped the list ?

Apple Ranked as World's Top Semiconductor Customer in 2011

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another in a long string or reports where Apple not only comes out at the top of the list but also has grown significantly where others are shrinking. How close are we getting to total world domination??
Wow, when Apple did it, it was "Apple is winning!" and now that Apple slipped back to 2nd place it's "Meh, what a silly metric to talk about".

Gotta love the cognitive dissonance going on in the Macrumors community. Always spin and spin and spin.

Geez guys, try for a little consistency.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 07:40 AM   #34
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lolwut?

You really, really do not want that - otherwise say hello to appalling updates, plastic hardware & god awful customer service.
Prefer the build quality on my galaxy S2 to that off both the iPhone 4 and 5, i can have my phone and not have it crack, scratched, etc , i don't need to buy a case for it, it just goes in my pocket, with my change and keys and works.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 09:18 AM   #35
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Hey, anyone remembers when Apple topped the list ?

Apple Ranked as World's Top Semiconductor Customer in 2011



Wow, when Apple did it, it was "Apple is winning!" and now that Apple slipped back to 2nd place it's "Meh, what a silly metric to talk about".

Gotta love the cognitive dissonance going on in the Macrumors community. Always spin and spin and spin.

Geez guys, try for a little consistency.
I am confused. Are you posting a quote from a random poster (who hasn't posted in here) as if it was everyone's opinion? I don't understand. I mean, it'd make sense if you caught people flip-flopping and called those specific people out but you're trying to lump everyone together. How does that even make sense?
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:47 AM   #36
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So Samsung spent more money on semiconductors? I don't get what this is supposed to tell us. That they buy more units? That they pay more per unit? Seriously, people will write anything these days for click bait.
Yeah, and you can thank Gartner for bringing up the data in the first place.

This is worthless data to use to make judgements of a company or to compare.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 11:06 AM   #37
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I am confused. Are you posting a quote from a random poster (who hasn't posted in here) as if it was everyone's opinion? I don't understand. I mean, it'd make sense if you caught people flip-flopping and called those specific people out but you're trying to lump everyone together. How does that even make sense?
Read the general tone of that old thread and the general tone of this thread.

I posted 1 example.
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 08:35 AM   #38
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Hey, anyone remembers when Apple topped the list ?

Apple Ranked as World's Top Semiconductor Customer in 2011



Wow, when Apple did it, it was "Apple is winning!" and now that Apple slipped back to 2nd place it's "Meh, what a silly metric to talk about".

Gotta love the cognitive dissonance going on in the Macrumors community. Always spin and spin and spin.

Geez guys, try for a little consistency.
Insulting? Here to pick arguments? Want to irritate people with your posting style, trying to cause upset, what?

Why are you always talking down to, correcting, and insulting members here. I find your condescending posts irritating and unnecessary.

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Old Jan 26, 2013, 09:04 AM   #39
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I feel so sorry for the moderators here. I bet they have to sift through 300 reports a day at least.
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 09:10 AM   #40
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 09:29 AM   #41
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Hey, anyone remembers when Apple topped the list ?

Apple Ranked as World's Top Semiconductor Customer in 2011



Wow, when Apple did it, it was "Apple is winning!" and now that Apple slipped back to 2nd place it's "Meh, what a silly metric to talk about".

Gotta love the cognitive dissonance going on in the Macrumors community. Always spin and spin and spin.

Geez guys, try for a little consistency.
Well it would only be inconsistent if the same person flip flopped wouldn't it? Generalizing is not a good way to prove a point.

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I am confused. Are you posting a quote from a random poster (who hasn't posted in here) as if it was everyone's opinion? I don't understand. I mean, it'd make sense if you caught people flip-flopping and called those specific people out but you're trying to lump everyone together. How does that even make sense?
Yeah this is the flaw inherent with people who say Apple users flip flop, they never show specific examples and just generalize. Find it incredibly immature but that's how it's always gonna be...
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 10:22 AM   #42
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Well it would only be inconsistent if the same person flip flopped wouldn't it? Generalizing is not a good way to prove a point.

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Yeah this is the flaw inherent with people who say Apple users flip flop, they never show specific examples and just generalize. Find it incredibly immature but that's how it's always gonna be...
Talking about the general tone of the thread. Where are those same people ? The ones that set the general tone when Apple became first ?

That's the whole point, but obviously, it blew past your head. Same as when there are lawsuit threads. When Apple gets sued, it's "Patent trolls! Litigate rather than innovate!" and when Apple sues it's "Apple needs to defend its IP! Copycats!".

That's the whole point of my post, a point obviously that 3 of you now failed to grasp in some quick bid to attack the messenger rather than the message (another big problem at Macrumors).
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 10:28 AM   #43
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Insulting? Here to pick arguments? Want to irritate people with your posting style, trying to cause upset, what?

Why are you always talking down to, correcting, and insulting members here. I find your condescending posts irritating and unnecessary.

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Your confusing insulting and condescending with facts and reality, ,all he did is display the facts of what people did when apple became number one and basically put egg on faces, nothing wrong with displaying the TRUTH.
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Old Jan 26, 2013, 10:42 AM   #44
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Talking about the general tone of the thread. Where are those same people ? The ones that set the general tone when Apple became first ?

That's the whole point, but obviously, it blew past your head. Same as when there are lawsuit threads. When Apple gets sued, it's "Patent trolls! Litigate rather than innovate!" and when Apple sues it's "Apple needs to defend its IP! Copycats!".

That's the whole point of my post, a point obviously that 3 of you now failed to grasp in some quick bid to attack the messenger rather than the message (another big problem at Macrumors).
You're generalizing. Who cares where the other people are? If I said "Now all the android users are excited when it didn't matter to them when Apple was first" would you get my point or would you say the same thing I am?

It's immature and you're generalizing. Poor forum etiquette. If the same people who made a big deal about it are now saying its not a big deal, then you'd have a point. Right now, you don't. I say you just stop arguing a failed point.
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