Go Back   MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:00 PM   #101
Glideslope
macrumors 68030
 
Glideslope's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: NY
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chupa Chupa View Post
By "concerns of flat growth" Wall Street means it has lack of faith Tim Cook can successfully launch the next big thing like Jobs could. Cook's tenure so far has been less than steller. In fact, it's almost HP-like.
Yes. Starting to look that way. IMO, Tim seemed annoyed at times during the call.

Although I'm fine with Apple's Q1. Great numbers for a very complex Q.

APPL will be $550 by 4:30p Thursday.
__________________
" A leader leads by example. Not by force." Sun Tzu
Glideslope is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:01 PM   #102
KPOM
macrumors G3
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveN View Post
Same here
Be a long term investor. Stocks go up and down on a whim. As irrationally positive as the market was last year it is irrationally negative this year. It all works out in the end. Most companies, including Samsung and Google would gladly trade places with Apple right now.
KPOM is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:02 PM   #103
jreuschl
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by parapup View Post
Apple is becoming Microsoft - or at least that's the fear. They sell a ton of their cash cow products and make good money - but that's just resting on their laurels. Where the hell is any innovation and disruption? People respect Apple for exactly that. Making profits on cash cows - that spot is for Microsoft.

The thing is they will sell some more iPads and iPhones but then when that's saturated they will badly need disruptive new product or at least leaps and bounds improvements to existing ones. And there are no winds of that for past couple years and counting.
Apple needs to think of ways to bring in new customers who are not Apple users. Android is selling like crazy, too. What will Apple need to do to bring an Android user over?
jreuschl is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:02 PM   #104
DaveN
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: May 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by gadget123 View Post
Yes and they seem to have run out of ideas..it's fine keeping it all the same but they need some innovation soon to keep in the game or they will lose to Android.
I don't see any innovations coming from Google with Android. Really, other than incremental changes, there is nothing new in Android phones and tablets.
DaveN is offline   2 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:03 PM   #105
ghost187
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Flat Growth???

iPhone sales still grew 39% yoy. iPad sales grew 49% yoy. Macs down 1.1m (obviously since they stopped selling iMacs as soon as they announced new iMacs, and even when the new iMacs became available, there wasn't enough to go around, and with no new Mac Pro, they probably sold very little desktops).
They beat their guidance and beat analyst estimates. Revenue was a slight miss (you can blame iMacs for this). Next quarter will be a monster quarter for macs. Mac mini will also show its true sales potential.

Also, the company is trading 3.5X cash and about 8X earnings. Fundamentals will kick in eventually. If anyone had the cash, they would take over this company just based on those numbers.

Now, about flat growth. Ask yourself this. Will iPhone 5 outsell iPhone 4S? Yes! Will iPhone 5S outsell iPhone 5? Yes, just because they will not have supply chain issues than. Will iPhone 6 outsell iPhone 5S? Yes because it will be a new design with new hardware features.

Will iPad sales keep going up? Guaranteed! iPad mini at $329 will maintain majority marketshare this year. Next year iPad Mini 2 will be $329, and last gen iPad mini will probably be sold for $249, breaking through yet another price barrier, giving android no chance to compete above $200.

Mac sales will never go down again. Mac Pro will be updated this year as promised. MBA with Retina will be a hit. And iMacs wont go on a 3 month hiatus on the next update since it will retain the same design. Oh, and Windows 8 is loved by everyone on Earth, NOT!

Ok, just based off of all the things I have listed, there is nothing to worry about as an investor, except your own patience, and what I have listed alone guarantees Apple huge growth for years to come!!!

BUT, how about NEEEWWW products. There are so many product categories Apple is yet the dominate.
iTV - This could be big. Hey even if it is not, it will still sell 10m+ every year just because of how well it will integrate with all of your other Apple devices.
iWatch - This could be huge. At the right price point, we can see millions of people wearing iWatches if Apple comes out with something cool.
Arm Based MBA - A $500 MBA based off of A7 or A8 processor bury Microsoft.
iGlasses - Wearable smart glasses will definitely be a huge hit in the future as we seen a preview of what it is from Google.

Also, APPL might have a stock split this year, to get into the Dow Jones. Than the law of large numbers wont apply to the share price anymore, and could easily boost to stock to trade 15-20X share like it should, considering that this company is still a GROWTH company.

I am writing all of this because I am fed up with the stock manipulation of Apple. If the price of the stock goes any lower, Apple should just go private and buy all of its shares. If Apple as a company was torn apart right now, their cash intellectual property, retail stores, and inventory would be worth more than its market cap. Apple investors, stop listening to the media who don't own the stock, and so called analyst who know nothing about Apple.

Apple maps fiasco? Hmm. If you don't like Apple maps, download one of many free or payed GPS applications out there, and if you cant do that good luck with Android!

Scratch gate? Since when is any electronic scratch proof?

Boring OS? Just row of iCons? Than how come Windows was so successful for decades, and now they are getting bashed for changing their UI now?

Thank you for reading.
ghost187 is offline   17 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:04 PM   #106
AHDuke99
macrumors 68020
 
AHDuke99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Charleston, SC
Send a message via AIM to AHDuke99
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glideslope View Post
Yes. Starting to look that way. IMO, Tim seemed annoyed at times during the call.

Although I'm fine with Apple's Q1. Great numbers for a very complex Q.

APPL will be $550 by 4:30p Thursday.
Hah. If it goes up $100 tomorrow I will gladly eat my left shoe. I wish that would be the case, but it is going to be some time, if not a long time, before Apple sees $500 a gain, much less $550.
AHDuke99 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:04 PM   #107
KPOM
macrumors G3
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by swester View Post
What about the iPhone 5 and iPad mini scream revolutionary to you? There's been nothing even close to official about the TV product yet, so that's a total unknown.

Remember: for AAPL during the 2000s, under Jobs, everything was disruptive and unprecedented for Apple. An MP3 player, a music store, a phone, an app store, a tablet, and so on. Since the iPad, every new release has basically just been an incremental update. And while the products are selling fantastically well, there comes a point where its capability to disrupt is fading.

Again, don't get me wrong - Apple is an exceptionally strong company. But so are Microsoft, Google, and countless other industry giants whose stock prices grow incrementally rather than exponentially once they've hit a certain maturity and market saturation.
The iPhone was introduced more than 5 YEARS after the iPod. In between we had incremental improvements. People are holding Tim Cook to an unrealistic standard.
KPOM is offline   3 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:04 PM   #108
cclloyd
macrumors 68000
 
cclloyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Alpha Centauri A
Best to buy now before people come to their senses.
__________________
iPhone 5 Sprint w/ iOS 7.0.4 Jailbroken
iPad mini Retina w/ iOS 7.0.4 Jailbroken
MacBook Pro Retina Early 2013
cclloyd is offline   6 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:05 PM   #109
lildimsum7
macrumors regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by FrozenDarkness View Post
living the dream. this is like saying if i put the right lotto numbers instead of the wrong one, i would've made millions of dollars.
not really. investing is nothing like the lotto. main thing to know is diversification, then that guy wouldn't have been so screwed. think of a stock as ownership in a business. as long as the business is reasonably profitable and financially stable as Apple is, there is value in ownership. of course, the guy who bought at a period of over-optimism (bad idea) will take longer to recover his original investment, it could take years. in the meantime, he'll receive a modest dividend. most people are better off buying a fund that tracks the market while reading the Intelligent Investor.

best thing for that guy to do is sell if there's a spike in price, don't wash sale, and wait for unimpressive earnings, bad news in a solid company, or for the market to go down b/c of something like debt concerns. then you'll get bargains.
lildimsum7 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:06 PM   #110
Myiphone7
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Guys listen its very simple. Aapl is not coming back. You can forget about it. The stock went up. It was all the craze. It ballooned way too high. And it burst. That's it. It's gone. Buy something else.

Now apple, they'll be fine. I'm looking forward to iPhone 6, 7, 8, 1082810, etc.

I'm looking forward to the TV coming out

And I'll probably buy the next mini.

But the stock? Forget about it folks. Technicals are broken. Fundamentals are broken. This. Stock. Is. DEAD.
Myiphone7 is offline   4 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:09 PM   #111
SeattleMoose
macrumors 65816
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Der Wald
The media/stock market "couple" has now becomes its own self-fulfilling prophecy machine....
SeattleMoose is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:10 PM   #112
NovemberWhiskey
macrumors 68000
 
Join Date: May 2009
If we didn't have "analysts" (and I'm putting the term in quotations, as their analysis seems nothing more than conjecture and/or manipulation) putting up these inflated predictions, would the stock keep dropping with these types of numbers?
NovemberWhiskey is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:10 PM   #113
jlasoon
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Orlando, FL
Quote:
Originally Posted by akadmon View Post
Sorry, not impressed. I lost $100K, which is nothing compared to Tim Cook's $100 million loss.
If you couldn't see this coming, I suggest you stop playing the rigged casino.
__________________
09 2.26ghz Octo, Cinema Display 27", MacBook Air, iPhone 4, iPad 16gb 3G, TV 2G,
jlasoon is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:11 PM   #114
KPOM
macrumors G3
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Myiphone7 View Post
Guys listen its very simple. Aapl is not coming back. You can forget about it. The stock went up. It was all the craze. It ballooned way too high. And it burst. That's it. It's gone. Buy something else.

Now apple, they'll be fine. I'm looking forward to iPhone 6, 7, 8, 1082810, etc.

I'm looking forward to the TV coming out

And I'll probably buy the next mini.

But the stock? Forget about it folks. Technicals are broken. Fundamentals are broken. This. Stock. Is. DEAD.
I disagree. It won't grow at the same rate as it did between 2008-2011, but I think it is in a different position from say, Microsoft, in 1999. The DOJ isn't investigating Apple to a significant degree, as it was with Microsoft in 1999. China is still a huge growth market. Microsoft wasn't trading at 9 times earnngs in 1999. Microsoft didn't have $137 billion of cash in the bank.

Don't expect to see $1000 or even $700 in a year, but don't expect to see $250 either.
KPOM is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:12 PM   #115
YourAvgUser
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Quote:
Originally Posted by jreuschl View Post
Apple needs to think of ways to bring in new customers who are not Apple users. Android is selling like crazy, too. What will Apple need to do to bring an Android user over?
Budget phone, not a joke. All things considered, that's the market they are missing. And by budget phone, I don't mean reselling last year's iPhone. There was a Forbes article about capturing a larger piece of the China market if they had a budget phone b/c of avg household income. Besides that, people love cheap and free new things.

But I hope Apple doesn't do it. It'd be uncharacteristic of them and Apple would lose some of its luster on the higher end.

The other is expansion, despite iPhone and iPad being available in so many countries, its still vastly limited when compared to Android phones.
YourAvgUser is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:13 PM   #116
samcraig
macrumors G5
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1Alec1 View Post
The history doesn't matter. Whatever price someone buys at is the price from which he expects the stock to go up, and whatever price someone does NOT buy at is the price from which he expects it to go down... in theory. Of course, people would only trade the stocks they're looking at, and trade commissions limit who can trade and when, but you're apparently monitoring AAPL, and I just have to assume that you're buying in enough quantity to overcome $20 in commission.
You said "if that's your target buy point, I can see why you like it when Apple does stuff wrong."

That's a judgement call. For example - maybe I'm in at $100 a share now. Naturally I want the stock to keep climbing. I don't want to see Apple do "stuff wrong" However - maybe I plan on capitalizing when/if the stock does go below a certain threshold. Just to pick up additional shares. That doesn't MEAN I like when Apple does stuff wrong. Again - that's your value judgement on me. Might I prefer that Apple does really really well and my original shares are just worth a lot more money? See my point?
samcraig is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:14 PM   #117
1Alec1
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo, you racist!
Quote:
Originally Posted by iLilana View Post
Title says it all. We all knew there was going to be record profits but investors are dumb.
"We all knew there was going to be record profits"; therefore, it is irrelevant.
1Alec1 is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:16 PM   #118
Bahroo
macrumors 68000
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by bedifferent View Post
I cannot help feeling a bit sad for Tim Cook. It was a bit of a given that Apple may have suffered from a dip post-Steve Jobs. Running a company after such a tragic loss while at the top of its game with so much pressure, I'm surprised it has done this well. However, I agree that Apple needs to innovate more and stop following the markets, lead them. Jobs made a point in developing products based on idea's and not following the market/dollar, this lead to Apple taking more risks (and some failing) with a bigger payout.

It seems post-Jobs Apple is falling apart. The last year has seen many top executives departing Apple, with OS X VP Software Engineering Bertrand Serlet leaving pre-Lion 10.7 with no one taking his place until last October. Forstall, Johnson, Bertrand, and of course Jobs were huge in developing Apple into what it is presently. Ive has been with Apple before Jobs, while I admire his work and he has been a key player, even with his rock hard antics, Jobs kept the team together.
I have confidence that as each day goes by, Tim Cook will become a better leader. Jony Ivy is in helm of the software department so im very excited what he will bring
Bahroo is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:16 PM   #119
1Alec1
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: The Democratic Republic of Congo, you racist!
Quote:
Originally Posted by samcraig View Post
You said "if that's your target buy point, I can see why you like it when Apple does stuff wrong."

That's a judgement call. For example - maybe I'm in at $100 a share now. Naturally I want the stock to keep climbing. I don't want to see Apple do "stuff wrong" However - maybe I plan on capitalizing when/if the stock does go below a certain threshold. Just to pick up additional shares. That doesn't MEAN I like when Apple does stuff wrong. Again - that's your value judgement on me. Might I prefer that Apple does really really well and my original shares are just worth a lot more money? See my point?
If you are holding right now, then you think it will go up, but if you're waiting for it to go down to $350 before you buy, then you think it will go down, otherwise you would buy right now. But if you think it will go down to $350, you should sell the ones you bought at $100/share. So there's conflicting logic.
1Alec1 is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:17 PM   #120
DaveN
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: May 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost187 View Post
Flat Growth???

iPhone sales still grew 39% yoy. iPad sales grew 49% yoy. Macs down 1.1m (obviously since they stopped selling iMacs as soon as they announced new iMacs, and even when the new iMacs became available, there wasn't enough to go around, and with no new Mac Pro, they probably sold very little desktops).
They beat their guidance and beat analyst estimates. Revenue was a slight miss (you can blame iMacs for this). Next quarter will be a monster quarter for macs. Mac mini will also show its true sales potential.

Also, the company is trading 3.5X cash and about 8X earnings. Fundamentals will kick in eventually. If anyone had the cash, they would take over this company just based on those numbers.

Now, about flat growth. Ask yourself this. Will iPhone 5 outsell iPhone 4S? Yes! Will iPhone 5S outsell iPhone 5? Yes, just because they will not have supply chain issues than. Will iPhone 6 outsell iPhone 5S? Yes because it will be a new design with new hardware features.

Will iPad sales keep going up? Guaranteed! iPad mini at $329 will maintain majority marketshare this year. Next year iPad Mini 2 will be $329, and last gen iPad mini will probably be sold for $249, breaking through yet another price barrier, giving android no chance to compete above $200.

Mac sales will never go down again. Mac Pro will be updated this year as promised. MBA with Retina will be a hit. And iMacs wont go on a 3 month hiatus on the next update since it will retain the same design. Oh, and Windows 8 is loved by everyone on Earth, NOT!

Ok, just based off of all the things I have listed, there is nothing to worry about as an investor, except your own patience, and what I have listed alone guarantees Apple huge growth for years to come!!!

BUT, how about NEEEWWW products. There are so many product categories Apple is yet the dominate.
iTV - This could be big. Hey even if it is not, it will still sell 10m+ every year just because of how well it will integrate with all of your other Apple devices.
iWatch - This could be huge. At the right price point, we can see millions of people wearing iWatches if Apple comes out with something cool.
Arm Based MBA - A $500 MBA based off of A7 or A8 processor bury Microsoft.
iGlasses - Wearable smart glasses will definitely be a huge hit in the future as we seen a preview of what it is from Google.

Also, APPL might have a stock split this year, to get into the Dow Jones. Than the law of large numbers wont apply to the share price anymore, and could easily boost to stock to trade 15-20X share like it should, considering that this company is still a GROWTH company.

I am writing all of this because I am fed up with the stock manipulation of Apple. If the price of the stock goes any lower, Apple should just go private and buy all of its shares. If Apple as a company was torn apart right now, their cash intellectual property, retail stores, and inventory would be worth more than its market cap. Apple investors, stop listening to the media who don't own the stock, and so called analyst who know nothing about Apple.

Apple maps fiasco? Hmm. If you don't like Apple maps, download one of many free or payed GPS applications out there, and if you cant do that good luck with Android!

Scratch gate? Since when is any electronic scratch proof?

Boring OS? Just row of iCons? Than how come Windows was so successful for decades, and now they are getting bashed for changing their UI now?

Thank you for reading.
I agree with 80% of what you wrote but I'm still nervous.
DaveN is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:18 PM   #121
jlasoon
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Orlando, FL
Quote:
Originally Posted by KPOM View Post
Don't expect to see $1000 or even $700 in a year, but don't expect to see $250 either.
$ 175 <----- Bank on it

Look at the fundamentals. GET OUT OF THE STUPOR!!!
__________________
09 2.26ghz Octo, Cinema Display 27", MacBook Air, iPhone 4, iPad 16gb 3G, TV 2G,
jlasoon is offline   1 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:18 PM   #122
swester
macrumors member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by KPOM View Post
The iPhone was introduced more than 5 YEARS after the iPod. In between we had incremental improvements. People are holding Tim Cook to an unrealistic standard.
Yes, except you're leaving out the iTunes store. That came in between the two, and it was as disruptive as the iPod itself (arguably, it was what made the iPod so revolutionary).

Cook is being held to the standard of Jobs himself. You are correct; that is an unrealistic standard.
swester is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:19 PM   #123
macs4nw
macrumors 68020
 
macs4nw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: On Safari…..
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost187 View Post
Flat Growth???

iPhone sales still grew 39% yoy. iPad sales grew 49% yoy. Macs down 1.1m (obviously since they stopped selling iMacs as soon as they announced new iMacs, and even when the new iMacs became available, there wasn't enough to go around, and with no new Mac Pro, they probably sold very little desktops).
They beat their guidance and beat analyst estimates. Revenue was a slight miss (you can blame iMacs for this). Next quarter will be a monster quarter for macs. Mac mini will also show its true sales potential.

Also, the company is trading 3.5X cash and about 8X earnings. Fundamentals will kick in eventually. If anyone had the cash, they would take over this company just based on those numbers.

Now, about flat growth. Ask yourself this. Will iPhone 5 outsell iPhone 4S? Yes! Will iPhone 5S outsell iPhone 5? Yes, just because they will not have supply chain issues than. Will iPhone 6 outsell iPhone 5S? Yes because it will be a new design with new hardware features.

Will iPad sales keep going up? Guaranteed! iPad mini at $329 will maintain majority marketshare this year. Next year iPad Mini 2 will be $329, and last gen iPad mini will probably be sold for $249, breaking through yet another price barrier, giving android no chance to compete above $200.

Mac sales will never go down again. Mac Pro will be updated this year as promised. MBA with Retina will be a hit. And iMacs wont go on a 3 month hiatus on the next update since it will retain the same design. Oh, and Windows 8 is loved by everyone on Earth, NOT!

Ok, just based off of all the things I have listed, there is nothing to worry about as an investor, except your own patience, and what I have listed alone guarantees Apple huge growth for years to come!!!

BUT, how about NEEEWWW products. There are so many product categories Apple is yet the dominate.
iTV - This could be big. Hey even if it is not, it will still sell 10m+ every year just because of how well it will integrate with all of your other Apple devices.
iWatch - This could be huge. At the right price point, we can see millions of people wearing iWatches if Apple comes out with something cool.
Arm Based MBA - A $500 MBA based off of A7 or A8 processor bury Microsoft.
iGlasses - Wearable smart glasses will definitely be a huge hit in the future as we seen a preview of what it is from Google.

Also, APPL might have a stock split this year, to get into the Dow Jones. Than the law of large numbers wont apply to the share price anymore, and could easily boost to stock to trade 15-20X share like it should, considering that this company is still a GROWTH company.

I am writing all of this because I am fed up with the stock manipulation of Apple. If the price of the stock goes any lower, Apple should just go private and buy all of its shares. If Apple as a company was torn apart right now, their cash intellectual property, retail stores, and inventory would be worth more than its market cap. Apple investors, stop listening to the media who don't own the stock, and so called analyst who know nothing about Apple.

Apple maps fiasco? Hmm. If you don't like Apple maps, download one of many free or payed GPS applications out there, and if you cant do that good luck with Android!

Scratch gate? Since when is any electronic scratch proof?

Boring OS? Just row of iCons? Than how come Windows was so successful for decades, and now they are getting bashed for changing their UI now?

Thank you for reading.
Nice to read something with a bit more positive spin on it, for a change; although always interesting to read other people's take on what's current and newsworthy, sometimes these forums can get a bit too bleak and negative in their tone.
macs4nw is offline   4 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:19 PM   #124
bobenhaus
macrumors 6502
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post
I'm confused. Didn't the stock end the day up? The 10% drop was in after hours trading. How so we know it will end the day tomorrow down 10%? It could be more, but it could be less too. So can we really say they've lost $50B in market cap?
After hours AAPL stock is down 50 dollars. Not good. Apple is making a good margin in profit but not growing and thats the problem. They are stagnant and everyone has a IOS device and its starting to hurt the company.
bobenhaus is offline   0 Reply With Quote
Old Jan 23, 2013, 10:20 PM   #125
syd430
Guest
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost187 View Post

Also, the company is trading 3.5X cash and about 8X earnings. Fundamentals will kick in eventually. If anyone had the cash, they would take over this company just based on those numbers.
No. See my post here

Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost187 View Post

If Apple as a company was torn apart right now, their cash intellectual property, retail stores, and inventory would be worth more than its market cap. Apple investors, stop listening to the media who don't own the stock, and so called analyst who know nothing about Apple.
No. You are confusing book value per share with the market price. The market price is almost always different because of expectations of future cash flows, but you knew that already, didn't you. Again, see my post here.
  0 Reply With Quote

Reply
MacRumors Forums > News and Article Discussion > MacRumors.com News Discussion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads
thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Foxconn Seeks to Offset Slowing Apple Growth With Software and Licensed Apple Accessories MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 93 May 28, 2013 10:48 PM
Apple Stock Jumps on Rumors of Stock Split at Tomorrow's Shareholder Meeting MacRumors MacRumors.com News Discussion 179 Mar 3, 2013 11:37 AM
Stock trading with Pro alexstjo Mac Pro 37 Feb 24, 2013 05:48 PM
Buying Apple stock on the first trading day of 2013? raptorstv Apple, Industry and Internet Discussion 21 Jan 23, 2013 06:48 PM
Sold Out in 1 Hr, Lol, Guess Apple's Stock Stock Price Tomorrow. Jazwire iPhone 1 Sep 14, 2012 04:26 AM

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:01 PM.

Mac Rumors | Mac | iPhone | iPhone Game Reviews | iPhone Apps

Mobile Version | Fixed | Fluid | Fluid HD
Copyright 2002-2013, MacRumors.com, LLC