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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:29 AM   #26
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The preview was so badly staged and acted that I thought it was a horror movie. Watch "Pirates" if you want a good film about Apple.

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It's a freaking movie. Only idiots don't expect some poetic license.
...poetic?
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:31 AM   #27
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Real Woz is fat - movie Woz is fat

Not sure what he's complaining about?!
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:33 AM   #28
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Just like the social network
The same can also be said about Pirates of Silicon Valley - there are a lot of inaccuracies in that too.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:34 AM   #29
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Surprised the producers didn't have Woz in to consult.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:34 AM   #30
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I agree with Woz, I thought the clip was really dumbed down, inaccurate and over dramatic, and I expect the entire movie to be the same.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:34 AM   #31
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Those of you complaining about this film - I wonder how you felt about

Argo
The Social Network
The King's Speech
Dolphin Tale
Moneyball
The Blindside
Big Miracle

...and so on...
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:34 AM   #32
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It comes as a great shock to me that the scene got details wrong. I was under the distinct impression Kutcher was a method actor.
Woz is talking about the script here, not something the actors would control.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:35 AM   #33
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Forget about this movie... I wish they would release the audiobook version of Fire In The Valley. I bought the reissue back in the late 1990s/early 2000s when they added some content to it. Great book. That is the gold standard when it comes to books about how the PC was born.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:35 AM   #34
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It's a freaking movie. Only idiots don't expect some poetic license.




Woz is irrelevant and only opens his mouth so he can try and be relevant again. What has he done lately, other than stand on line for new phones being released?
He has done nothing...I should have put sarcasm on that when I wrote it. Aside from appearing on TV shows and what not, he just seems to exist, yet everyone goes all crazy over him...almost like Justin Bieber
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:36 AM   #35
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Those of you complaining about this film - I wonder how you felt about

Argo
The Social Network
The King's Speech
Dolphin Tale
Moneyball
The Blindside
Big Miracle

...and so on...
Yeah, remember that Curley Sue movie with Jim Bulushi? That really sux0rs.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:36 AM   #36
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Sure, artistic licenses will be made with movies, but if it's a movie based on someone's life (and you're marketing it as a movie on someone's life), you can only go so far. Things like who's idea was it or if someone's a social extravert versus being a loner should stay the same.

What's interesting is that people bash Ashton Kutcher for what seems to be him trying his best to be Steve Jobs and probably only missing a few points here and there, yet they are fine when Woz says that the scene is largely being portrayed incorrectly, brushing it off as "it's a movie"?
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:37 AM   #37
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Is anyone surprised? Seriously.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:39 AM   #38
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In other news, Apple has it's best quarter ever? Wall Street's reaction, chop off $50 billion of market cap. That's just what I would have thought...
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:39 AM   #39
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Where did all this Woz hate come from?

Woz brought it back to reality. Good to have input from one of the two guys who actually was there at the true beginning! And without Woz, none of us would even be here on an "Apple" forum. So show some respect for the Woz!
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:39 AM   #40
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...poetic?
The movie ends with Steve Jobs riding off on a dragon to Valhalla after defeating the world serpent in a battle of wits.

POETIC!
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:40 AM   #41
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Here is a the dialogue from that actual scene.

SJ: "Look here, Ive found this 486 motherboard behind the cushion of this futon sofa bed that we just carried up here into this converted loft area"
BW: "And what do you intend to do with that, man?"
SJ: "Ive made a computer casing with 'Mac' on the front an' that. And Ive got a 4mb hard disk drive, a cd player and a box of spare memory chips and a Soundblaster card .. and .."
BW: "For chrissakes, Steve - thats the most preposterous idea I've ever heard .. it'll never catch on"
SJ: "Perhaps not intiially - but once we get around to the iPod, iMac and eventual iPad production in full - THEN world domination will be ours, possibly"
BW: "Hmmm .. well, now you put it like that, alright then - where's our nearest Apple store?"

Ok - historically the script isn't 100% accurate but lets not stop that from ruining a great story ... everybody ready? Aaaaand .. action!
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:43 AM   #42
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Here is a the dialogue from that actual scene.

SJ: "Look here, Ive found this 486 motherboard behind the cushion of this futon sofa bed that we just carried up here into this converted loft area"
BW: "And what do you intend to do with that, man?"
SJ: "Ive made a computer casing with 'Mac' on the front an' that. And Ive got a 4mb hard disk drive, a cd player and a box of spare memory chips and a Soundblaster card .. and .."
BW: "For chrissakes, Steve - thats the most preposterous idea I've ever heard .. it'll never catch on"
SJ: "Perhaps not intiially - but once we get around to the iPod, iMac and eventual iPad production in full - THEN world domination will be ours, possibly"
BW: "Hmmm .. well, now you put it like that, alright then - where's our nearest Apple store?"

Ok - historically the script isn't 100% accurate but lets not stop that from ruining a great story ... everybody ready? Aaaaand .. action!
9/10 would read again.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:43 AM   #43
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The clip feels wrong. Even Woz looks wrong. The character is hunched over and looks like a shy geek that was pushed around by Steve Jobs when in reality I think they were pretty much equals. Woz certainly strikes me as much more confident than the character in this clip suggests.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:43 AM   #44
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Woz needs to get that through his head before he starts shooting his mouth off.
The one who needs to get a better understanding before shooting his mouth off is you. From the snippet above it seems Woz gets that the goal is entertainment just fine:

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I’m embarrassed but if the movie is fun and entertaining, all the better.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:43 AM   #45
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Yeah, remember that Curley Sue movie with Jim Bulushi? That really sux0rs.
What's your point?

Mine was that movies based on real events/people often delineate from the truth and/or compress time events.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:43 AM   #46
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The scene is out of context. We don't know what has taken place before or after.

In short - it's possible that they just hit on this moment to move things along/condense time frame.

Who knows. Can't judge from the clip alone
Umm, Woz.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:44 AM   #47
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Well that does it for me. Time to boycott the movie!


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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:46 AM   #48
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I thought Wozniaks perception of times and events were skewed to begin with.
Wasn't Woz in a plane crash that scrambled his memory? I was under the impression he doesn't really remember things Pre-crash first-hand, but second-hand based on what others told him post-crash?
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:46 AM   #49
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The one who needs to get a better understanding before shooting his mouth off is you. From the snippet above it seems Woz gets that the goal is entertainment just fine:
Look, Woz wrote his book. He's had his say. He's done. Is he going to pic apart every single biopic from now until the end of time? He needs to give it rest already.
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Old Jan 25, 2013, 10:46 AM   #50
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I other words, Steve Wozniak is saying "Don't believe in movies!"
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