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Old Jan 28, 2013, 01:54 AM   #76
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If this is the case, it would clearly be offered as 32/64/128 on new devices
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Sounds like it will be a fourth size option: 16/32/64/128. Kind of disappointing, as I was hoping they'd just bump the base model to 32gb and have 32/64/128 at the same prices.
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32GB become base model.

Makes sense for the iPad, not really for iPhone, iPod touch, etc.

Surface also has 128GB option
I'd like to see 32GB as the base model at the current price points.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 02:14 AM   #77
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Having a microSD card slot is more about being able to make large storage expansions for a cheap price So instead of buying a 32 or 64GB iPad you could buy the 16GB one and stick a big microSD card in there for $30-$50 - Which would be anywhere from HALF to a QUARTER of the cost of buying the built in memory from Apple.
He was talking about a USB port, though. I definitely want MicroSD, but a USB port would be big and awkward on an iPad and wouldn't be that useful.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 02:37 AM   #78
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Lets be honest. If you already have an iPad and had it for a couple generation, you're not going to switch to surface or android because you have too much invested in apps. I know I do. I love my iPad. I'd never switch.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 02:42 AM   #79
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That's not a 1 day work kiddo.
some is asking for some IOS improvements not exactly from yesterday...
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 02:52 AM   #80
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Lets be honest. If you already have an iPad and had it for a couple generation, you're not going to switch to surface or android because you have too much invested in apps. I know I do. I love my iPad. I'd never switch.
People do though - Myself included.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 03:04 AM   #81
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You can transfer files without relying on iTunes or the Internet?
I transfer files from iTunes to iOS devices without the need of a USB port.
I still transfer photos from my DSLR camera to my iPad through an SD card reader.
As for not relying on the internet,I am on the internet almost everywhere and all time. I would i want another ugly last century hole called USB port on my mobile device. Wireless is the way to go.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 03:09 AM   #82
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Lets be honest. If you already have an iPad and had it for a couple generation, you're not going to switch to surface or android because you have too much invested in apps. I know I do. I love my iPad. I'd never switch.
As long as the other tablets have a decent PDF app, I could switch tomorrow without any qualms
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 03:11 AM   #83
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If this is the case, it would clearly be offered as 32/64/128 on new devices
If they go with three tiers instead of four, and drop one, I wouldn't be surprised if the lineup actually became 16/64/128. That way Apple can take a higher profit on the model with the lowest margin from customers that don't really care about capacity (or use iCloud heavily), and it makes the middle and top tiers look more enticing for those that do.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 03:23 AM   #84
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iOS devices should really be 64GB, 128GB and 256GB by now. It's amazing how many generations they have stuck with 16GB.

These memory chips cost Apple virtually nothing considering the quantities they are buying. The large price differences between the different models is pretty much all mark-up.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 03:24 AM   #85
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What still bugs me after all these years about the iPad (more of an iOS issue) is that it only supports certain types of .mov and .mp4 files. I know they want to promote iTunes for movie rentals and whatever, but common it's just ridiculous that you have to convert all your digital copy's which takes ages, or else install some free app with a ******** of apps that doesn't work smooth.

I like to advise people to buy an iPad for the ease of use. But when they ask for stuff like this, I have to admit it doesn't "just work". We've been bitching way too little about this.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 03:30 AM   #86
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16GB is base still?

FFS... Apple, if you want to position iPad as a PC/post PC device you need to beef up that storage quite a bit.

16GB needs to die already, let alone those ridiculous 8GB models of iPhone.
What's up with that? 5 bucks saved on the BOM? Hooray...

Meanwhile the iPod Classic is having a good laugh, although it can't even use the space in the same way...
It's all messed up at the moment.

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Old Jan 28, 2013, 03:30 AM   #87
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I thought everyone was screaming about NO MARCH UPDATES! Seems they were probably wrong, if this data is true.

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iOS devices should really be 64GB, 128GB and 256GB by now. It's amazing how many generations they have stuck with 16GB.

These memory chips cost Apple virtually nothing considering the quantities they are buying. The large price differences between the different models is pretty much all mark-up.
I always believed it was limited on purpose to boost use and interest and need of the "cloud". The cloud would have been an excellent idea in 2001, but as memory on board becomes larger and cheaper, the cloud becomes a redundant service with use only as a safeguard in the future.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 03:34 AM   #88
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iOS devices should really be 64GB, 128GB and 256GB by now. It's amazing how many generations they have stuck with 16GB.

These memory chips cost Apple virtually nothing considering the quantities they are buying. The large price differences between the different models is pretty much all mark-up.
But if they had those tiers, then the vast majority would buy the 64GB model because it's more than enough for them - And seeing as the 64GB model would cost the same as today's 16GB model (being the lowest tier), Apple would lose TONS of profit from the higher tiers. Even if upping all the tiers and keeping the prices the same cost apple NOTHING they'd still lose LOTS of money because of this ^^^.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 03:37 AM   #89
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If this is the case, it would clearly be offered as 32/64/128 on new devices
Boy if Apple dumps the 16GB iPad 4, and now sells the 32GB, 64GB, and 128GB, what a burn to iPad owners.

First it's the iPad 4 that comes out so soon after iPad 3, and then within a few months, you can now get the 32GB for the same price as people splurged on the 16GB? Ouch!

I know, I know, - that's how tech works. But historically this isn't quite how Apple usually works. But who knows these days. Apple has to move faster, with so much competition.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 03:44 AM   #90
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I thought everyone was screaming about NO MARCH UPDATES! Seems they were probably wrong, if this data is true.
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It wouldn't really be an update, just a basic storage bump or a fourth extra storage option.

And even though they have found these logs doesn't mean a release is imminent either.



If they do bump up an iPad or iPhone to 128 option, then they certainly need to get their act together and sort out the 64Gb standard MBA because if a streamlined content consumption device warrants 128gb, a proper full blooded laptop content creation device with 64Gb in 2013 is looking pretty anaemic.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 03:49 AM   #91
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What still bugs me after all these years about the iPad (more of an iOS issue) is that it only supports certain types of .mov and .mp4 files.
You seriously don't understand why??? There is hardware acceleration for video decoding, which is necessarily codec-specific. Decoding arbitrary formats without hardware acceleration requires many times the resources (eg. CPU cycles and thus battery life), resources that are scarce on such a device. Go dig up the (withdrawn) VLC for iOS and see how happy you are with the performance.
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I know they want to promote iTunes for movie rentals and whatever, but common it's just ridiculous that you have to convert all your digital copy's
My digital copy's what? My digital copy doesn't possess things.
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Time to upgrade from your G3 iBook.
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or else install some free app with a ******** of apps that doesn't work smooth.
"Smooth" is an adjective, not an adverb. Handbrake works for me.
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I like to advise people to buy an iPad for the ease of use. But when they ask for stuff like this, I have to admit it doesn't "just work". We've been bitching way too little about this.
There's a difference between you not understanding something and that thing not working.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 03:56 AM   #92
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Why is everyone saying drop the 16gb iPad? All I use my 16gb for is mail, Safari, Kindle, Netflix, Facebook and FaceTime. No music or movies. Apple could shift the price lower across the line as 128gb ssd are so cheap now.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 03:57 AM   #93
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Boy if Apple dumps the 16GB iPad 4, and now sells the 32GB, 64GB, and 128GB, what a burn to iPad owners.
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They'll probably offer some token iTunes amount for users who bought them within a certain time frame as goodwill gesture.

Though they will have committed to ultimate consumer boob, in the fact that by creating bad will in iPad buyers in two consecutive generations / 6 month periods. Those folks looking to upgrade in future will be far more hesitant to do so.


One of the reasons attributed to the iPad 4 not selling as many units as the mini was price, but I think another important factor was the very short refresh after the iPad 3. People who had already bought or upgraded within that first 6 month period to a 9" tablet were unlikely to upgrade once more to the 4, and those that ain't upgraded were fearful / reluctant in case a new one was released in the Spring. It was too soon, and creating this 6 month doubt and speculation in consumers will carry over to the retail environment where people go looking for a new tablet but are hesitant to pick up an iPad as they feel their $500-800 will be outdated within a very relatively short time.


Speeding up iPad refresh is not a way to keep on top of competition, or a way to inflate stock prices.

Apples stock price soared on the back of innovation.
Not speed bumps hardware wise and terrible software boobs in iOS (Maps) and then added to what seems a lack of any real innovation is OSX and macintosh software the last few years...

Apple need to 'think differently' once more.
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What still bugs me after all these years about the iPad (more of an iOS issue) is that it only supports certain types of .mov and .mp4 files. I know they want to promote iTunes for movie rentals and whatever, but common it's just ridiculous that you have to convert all your digital copy's which takes ages, or else install some free app with a ******** of apps that doesn't work smooth.

I like to advise people to buy an iPad for the ease of use. But when they ask for stuff like this, I have to admit it doesn't "just work". We've been bitching way too little about this.
I could be wrong, but I think that's because the decoder chip is limited to those certain codecs (a subset of h264). Anything else would have to be decoded in software which would burn up battery, and as you've found, be choppy on playback. Again, I could be wrong, but to solve it Apple would need new hardware.

Edit: Which stores sell digital copies that don't play on an iPad? Maybe the answer to that also explains why they don't seem to care.
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But if they had those tiers, then the vast majority would buy the 64GB model because it's more than enough for them.
You could make that argument about computer hard drives, but they have continually increased in size and people have continually bought the biggest size they could afford.

More storage will mean you can do more with your iPad. My iPhoto library for instance is over 100GB, no way I could fit that all on my iPad at full 16MP resolution. With 256GB I could fit HD movies on there as well. Apps now take up more room as they have retina graphics and new iOS devices can run console-quality games.

The majority of people will always buy the base model (whatever the spec) and people who can afford more will buy the better models.
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If they do bump up an iPad or iPhone to 128 option, then they certainly need to get their act together and sort out the 64Gb standard MBA because if a streamlined content consumption device warrants 128gb, a proper full blooded laptop content creation device with 64Gb in 2013 is looking pretty anaemic.
My eMac from over a decade ago had an 80 GB HD. I was looking at Best Buy's $800 for a low end Air this weekend and decided against it because of how tiny the storage capacity was (I'm in too tight a fiscal spot to afford... Well, anything... Probably for the best I didn't buy it.)
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 04:35 AM   #97
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Ill buy it when it's real,existing and and I can see it other than that all I can say is
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You could make that argument about computer hard drives, but they have continually increased in size and people have continually bought the biggest size they could afford.
Computer hard drives are very different to the flash memory in iDevices. Because unlike the flash memory in iDevices, which Apple has a total 100% monopoly over, computer hard drive makers have competitors. So if one hard drive company doesn't make a bigger hard drive once the technology is there and it's economical, someone else will, and with that will take all the business. And because it's a race to the bottom with hard drives, the price difference between drives with different storage spaces is often very small, or even negligible in some cases. I mean, look at this hard drive on Amazon. The price difference between the 250GB model, the 320GB model and the 500GB model is within $1 or $2 dollars! Hell, it's a buck cheaper in that case to buy the 500GB version than the 320GB version! So which do you think people will buy? That's why people will buy a 500GB hard drive when they may only need a 250GB one.
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People like you sickens me.. Did your parents never give you love before or what? Why cant you be nice to the others? If I were you, I would look for myself an error first before I started pointing out the mistakes what others made. Dose that social status of being in Seattle that does make yourself act like such an arrogant?

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You seriously don't understand why??? There is hardware acceleration for video decoding, which is necessarily codec-specific. Decoding arbitrary formats without hardware acceleration requires many times the resources (eg. CPU cycles and thus battery life), resources that are scarce on such a device. Go dig up the (withdrawn) VLC for iOS and see how happy you are with the performance.

My digital copy's what? My digital copy doesn't possess things.

Time to upgrade from your G3 iBook.

"Smooth" is an adjective, not an adverb. Handbrake works for me.

There's a difference between you not understanding something and that thing not working.
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Alright then. So tell me this: What can you do with a USB that i can't do it already without it?
Surely you can't be serious. It's so obvious. I'll give you a hint. It's the very same reason that Apple will never allow expansion slots for memory cards.
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