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Old Jan 28, 2013, 03:15 PM   #1
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Is Euthanization Wrong?

I know, I know, I've been saying a lot here lately. Please don't flame.
Animal Euthanization. Does it make sense? An animal is suffering from cancer, we as humans decide to put that animal down to end it's suffering. It dies.
Humans get cancer. We suffer. Do you see doctors putting humans down? Why is this? Is it because we have more potential? More connections? More technology or medicine to treat patients? We're just another mammal, although, more advanced. Treat other animals the same way. Money shouldn't be a factor. I hate the idea of killing an animal due to suffering. We suffer all the time.
Someone gets into a car accident, a bad one. They don't have the money for medical bills.
Patient: "I have no money to afford this" [after treated]
Doctor: "You can either pay up or we'll put you down."
^ does this happen? No. Does it happen with other animals? More than likely, yes.
Do you think it's wrong?
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 03:21 PM   #2
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I doubt that any human is "put down" because they can't pay medical bills. I'm pretty sure that would be illegal.

As far as people who are terminally ill deciding to commit suicide, I believe that is their choice.

The documentary "How To Die in Oregon" gives very good insight into how people come to that decision.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 03:33 PM   #3
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 03:59 PM   #4
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I believe that putting a person down for financial reasons are wrong. However, I do believe a person should be able to ask for medically induced suicide when they decide that they are done suffering.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 04:30 PM   #5
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Yes. It is wrong.

Euthanasia

Euthanasia (from the Greek: εὐθανασία meaning "good death": εὖ, eu (well or good) + θάνατος, thanatos (death)) refers to the practice of intentionally ending a life in order to relieve pain and suffering.
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A deaf pair of twins chose to be euthanized recently. I believe humans should have the right to choose whether they live in pain, or die gracefully.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:03 PM   #7
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A deaf pair of twins chose to be euthanized recently. I believe humans should have the right to choose whether they live in pain, or die gracefully.
Wow... First time I ever heard about that happening.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:09 PM   #8
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Are you the new waloshin?
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Are you the new waloshin?

Seems awfully similar to me but I bet Squilly has the new Lightning connector.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:15 PM   #10
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Seems awfully similar to me but I bet Squilly has the new Lightning connector.
Yes, he does seem to be much more prolific than waloshin.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:29 PM   #11
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The ability to decide (when in right mind) one's own death is the ultimate expression of the right of self-determination.




That having been said, OP, did you reread your post? Seriously, pay up or we put you down ("Does it happen with other animals? More than likely, yes")? How old are you that you can't postulate a coherent thesis?
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:47 PM   #12
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I get the impression we are doing his homework for him.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:51 PM   #13
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I know, I know, I've been saying a lot here lately. Please don't flame.
Animal Euthanization. Does it make sense? An animal is suffering from cancer, we as humans decide to put that animal down to end it's suffering. It dies.
Humans get cancer. We suffer. Do you see doctors putting humans down? Why is this? Is it because we have more potential? More connections? More technology or medicine to treat patients? We're just another mammal, although, more advanced. Treat other animals the same way. Money shouldn't be a factor. I hate the idea of killing an animal due to suffering. We suffer all the time.
Someone gets into a car accident, a bad one. They don't have the money for medical bills.
Patient: "I have no money to afford this" [after treated]
Doctor: "You can either pay up or we'll put you down."
^ does this happen? No. Does it happen with other animals? More than likely, yes.

Do you think it's wrong?
Why shouldn't money be a factor? We can't even provide basic medical care for the human beings in the world--so I think its a very poor, and perhaps even immoral, decision to spend a million dollars trying to save a cat. There are plenty of instances -- even in the U.S. -- where human patients have died because they could not afford treatment.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:52 PM   #14
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I get the impression we are doing his homework for him.
Interesting hypothesis.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 05:59 PM   #15
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Are you the new waloshin?
Who is Waloshin?

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I get the impression we are doing his homework for him.
No. I'm just fascinated by sciences.

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The ability to decide (when in right mind) one's own death is the ultimate expression of the right of self-determination.




That having been said, OP, did you reread your post? Seriously, pay up or we put you down ("Does it happen with other animals? More than likely, yes")? How old are you that you can't postulate a coherent thesis?
I wasn't trying to formulate a thesis nor write a paper.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 06:00 PM   #16
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Who is Waloshin?
A user who starts threads based on non sequiturs.
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 06:01 PM   #17
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A user who starts threads based on non sequiturs.
What, my threads don't make sense?
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Old Jan 28, 2013, 06:03 PM   #18
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What, my threads don't make sense?
Given the frequency of new threads and the lack of a common theme, yes.
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Who is Waloshin?

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No. I'm just fascinated by sciences.

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I wasn't trying to formulate a thesis nor write a paper.
Sometimes pondering the questions that pop into your mind are best pondered...in your mind.
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Who is Waloshin?[COLOR="#808080"]
A former macrumors member who started one too many posts. We put him down.
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A former macrumors member who started one too many posts. We put him down.
Someone was banned for posting TOO much?
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Someone was banned for posting TOO much?
Eventually it becomes spam.
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Wally wasn't banned but man I would suggest if you do do a Thesis you spell the word properly.
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Wally wasn't banned but man I would suggest if you do do a Thesis you spell the word properly.
You said, "do-do"!!!
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Wally wasn't banned but man I would suggest if you do do a Thesis you spell the word properly.
I did...
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