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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:18 PM   #26
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Because if they put an "updated" banner on it, hordes of internet complainers will spill out onto the net and complain that there's no new features.

So really, a stealth update is fine.
This. With the amount of impetus behind a new "Apple TV" on the internet, it is a marketing disadvantage to call it new until there is actually something really new about it.
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:18 PM   #27
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:19 PM   #28
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Will an upgraded wireless chip enable it to stay connected to Home Sharing for more than 5 minutes without disconnecting (while two iPhones, an iPad, two Macs, and Windows PC stay connected in the same place)?
mine has the same problem, so I use ethernet.
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:19 PM   #29
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IT'S THE APPS, STUPID!

I am glad they are upgrading the internals, but we really need Apple to open Apple TV to developers so we can get some decent apps in their.

Right now, it's a glorified Netflix player, and not a very good one, either (e.g., if you finish an episode, it presents you with a Play button for the SAME episode, instead of the NEXT episode as many other front-ends do).

I love Netflix and that's why I am OK with ATV, but it really needs apps before Google TV gets its act together and ATV becomes irrelevant.
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:19 PM   #30
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I don't understand this part. Why is this not the case in the FCC filing diagram?
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Wait, so this update says that the dimensions will be the same, but yet the dimensions shown are smaller than the current ATV? So what's up with that?
The dimensions in the FCC filling are the same as the base of the current Apple TV.

Thumb resize.
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:21 PM   #31
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there won't be any new features or other changes

Pretty much sums it up. Apple should just adopt this tag line and stamp it on 90% of their products.
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:22 PM   #32
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I can't believe that apple dont see the mega-huge potential in apple tv...
Give it some apps for gods sake!
Why would there be apps on Apple TV? The only apps that would work are Netflix, HBO and other channel-specific apps which would require a deal with Apple anyway.
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:24 PM   #33
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I got one last Saturday and was worried I might have to return it.

this is fantastic news (for me at least )
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:26 PM   #34
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Why would there be apps on Apple TV? The only apps that would work are Netflix, HBO and other channel-specific apps which would require a deal with Apple anyway.
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:28 PM   #35
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At the moment, this doesn't offer much more than easy typing in search fields. Doesn't it seem like a version of Safari for Apple TV has to be on the way?
I'm sure they would save that for the real Apple TV.
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:28 PM   #36
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Why would there be apps on Apple TV? The only apps that would work are Netflix, HBO and other channel-specific apps which would require a deal with Apple anyway.
Why should there be Apple TV?

Undefined, alright....
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:30 PM   #37
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As an Apple fan I often wonder why apple never allow their products to unleash their full potential.

As an example I jailbroke my ATV2 and now I am able to stream from my network drive. It works FLAWLESSLY and has replaced my PS3 as my media streamer. Plus it does so consuming very little electricity. Why on earth would you not allow it to do this as standard?!?!

Many companies try and add as many features as they can, while Apple deliberately remove things it can do with ease.
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:30 PM   #38
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Apple's not going to give you those particulars in a $99 device. They'd rather you buy a Mac Mini, which is still cheaper than an unlocked iPhone.
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:31 PM   #39
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:32 PM   #40
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This doesn't seem like much of an update
Apple says the same thing. It's amazing how in sync you are.
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This doesn't seem like much of an update
That's why they call it a "stealth update".
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:33 PM   #42
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Apple says the same thing. It's amazing how in sync you are.
has been saying this for some time now about all their products.
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:33 PM   #43
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Apple's not going to give you those particulars in a $99 device. They'd rather you buy a Mac Mini, which is still cheaper than an unlocked iPhone.
They would sell more than 2 million if they did.

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I think you need a ROKU
No. I need a reason to use a bluetooth keyboard that Apple just enabled.
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:35 PM   #44
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The dimensions in the FCC filling are the same as the base of the current Apple TV.

Thumb resize.
But the diagram says 93.78 mm, as opposed to the 98 mm count on the current Apple TV? Sorry, I think I keep missing something here
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:35 PM   #45
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Any guesses as to when this will happen? Though its not a real big update, it's still an update.... Waiting to find one when they come out....
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:36 PM   #46
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Just add some more content providers. Amazon...Pandora...Spotify...Crackle. If there is a audio/video content provider with an iPad app, then there should be an effort to make one for Apple TV. I've got my stupid old Roku taking up an HDMI port just for Amazon video.

And I know Airplay works but I don't want to use my mobile device when it's something the Apple TV should be able to do itself.
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:37 PM   #47
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:38 PM   #48
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No. I need a reason to use a bluetooth keyboard that Apple just enabled.
Listen, you're trying to be logical. Don't !!!
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I've been planning on getting a 3rd gen to take advantage of the 1080p. I can move my second gen to my basement tv. However, since I wasn't in a hurry, I'll still wait till these are in distribution to at least get the spec bump on the chip.
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Old Jan 30, 2013, 12:38 PM   #50
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Yea, tech crunch nailed this spot on.

I hope they don't give the iPad mini an A5X. The A5X will be far from over a year old by the time it would be put into the Mini, and as we can see from the iPad 3, requires way more battery power and thermal space.

I'd hope it would either be an A6X underclocked or A6 (it has less pixels to drive and isn't meant to be a performance beast like the iPad) so that it can be retina without getting thicker or killing battery life. The A5X was kind of a flop of a chip design if you ask me. The A6X is along those lines, but seems to be better on battery and heat dissipation.

But by moving to the A5X, which is more expensive to manufacturer, it's almost as if Apple is implying that the A5 isn't suitable for the current Apple TV. I don't see the point in changing what isn't broken. It may be a "silent update", but surely this is planning for something Apple has planned down the product pipeline.
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