Fastest slim blu-ray rom for use with MakeMKV

jmpage2 · Feb 1, 2013

I picked up a Samsung SE506BB slim external USB blu-ray burner to use with my new iMac to rip Blu-rays using Make MKV. Even though the drive is rated at 6X blu-ray read speed the fastest ripping speeds I get is 2.2X.

Are there any slim external drives that return a faster rip speed with MakeMkv?

mic j · Feb 1, 2013

jmpage2 said:
I picked up a Samsung SE506BB slim external USB blu-ray burner to use with my new iMac to rip Blu-rays using Make MKV. Even though the drive is rated at 6X blu-ray read speed the fastest ripping speeds I get is 2.2X.

Are there any slim external drives that return a faster rip speed with MakeMkv?

I can't suggest a different drive because I am not familiar with all of them. But I would venture to guess that you are experience the effect of Rip Lock, which most drives have incorporated to limit the ripping speed. My Plexar does does about 3X max but is rated higher.

AlabamaSlammer · Feb 1, 2013

I'm not sure if this is as slim as you might want but this has been working great for me.

http://www.amazon.com/External-Blu-...id=1359750447&sr=8-11&keywords=blu+ray+burner

jmpage2 · Feb 1, 2013

Thanks for the recommendation... I already have a full size drive actually, an LG that is in an external enclosure.... but it's big, super noisy, etc, so I bought the smaller drive to make things less obtrusive on the desktop.

Riplock is probably the issue, but I don't know that any firmware exists for the Samsung to get around it.

mic j · Feb 1, 2013

jmpage2 said:
Thanks for the recommendation... I already have a full size drive actually, an LG that is in an external enclosure.... but it's big, super noisy, etc, so I bought the smaller drive to make things less obtrusive on the desktop.

Riplock is probably the issue, but I don't know that any firmware exists for the Samsung to get around it.

I have seen some firmware hacks to remove it. And that is certainly not my area of knowledge.

jmpage2 · Feb 1, 2013

Requires re-flash of the drive with firmware specifically designed to turn off Riplock. This does not appear to exist for the SE-506 drive.

CWallace · Feb 1, 2013

I have the SE506BB connected via USB2 and on single-layer commercial disks it starts out at around 1.6x and then gets faster as it reads in (up to around 2.6x). Speeds ripping commercial DVDs are about as fast as the built in ODD on my 2011 iMac, which I believe does have RipLock.

On dual-layer discs, some folks report speeds upwards of 4x.

jmpage2 · Feb 1, 2013

CWallace said:
I have the SE506BB connected via USB2 and on single-layer commercial disks it starts out at around 1.6x and then gets faster as it reads in (up to around 2.6x). Speeds ripping commercial DVDs are about as fast as the built in ODD on my 2011 iMac, which I believe does have RipLock.

On dual-layer discs, some folks report speeds upwards of 4x.

dual-layer DVD or Blu-ray?

I've only ripped blu-ray with it and have yet to see better than 2.2X speeds. Sounds like it's about normal.

CWallace · Feb 2, 2013

jmpage2 said:
dual-layer DVD or Blu-ray?

Blu-ray (per the reports).

jmpage2 · Feb 2, 2013

CWallace said:
Blu-ray (per the reports).

Do you have a thread, etc that I could reference? I am not getting those speeds.

CWallace · Feb 3, 2013

jmpage2 said:
Do you have a thread, etc that I could reference? I am not getting those speeds.

Sorry. It came up on a website during research I was doing for Blu-ray readers, but I don't recall which one.

fhall1 · Feb 4, 2013

I'd like to jump in here too....I'm looking for a slimline BluRay reader/CD-DVD burner (doesn't have to burn BluRay - just read them). I'd like it to be fairly reliable though. The $50 ones I see on newegg get crappy reviews. Any ideas out there?

davids8477 · Feb 4, 2013

Asus

fhall1 said:
I'd like to jump in here too....I'm looking for a slimline BluRay reader/CD-DVD burner (doesn't have to burn BluRay - just read them). I'd like it to be fairly reliable though. The $50 ones I see on newegg get crappy reviews. Any ideas out there?

I've used this one for several years with no problems

http://www.amazon.com/External-Blu-Ray-24XCD-R-Formats-SBC-06D1S-U/dp/B004G603MO

taylord22 · Feb 4, 2013

I researched and tested a few external drives (including the 12x samsung), but I finally ended up with an internal drive in a USB enclosure...perfection. Far greater bang for buck if high read speeds and USB 3.0 are important to you.

fhall1 · Feb 4, 2013

davids8477 said:
I've used this one for several years with no problems

http://www.amazon.com/External-Blu-Ray-24XCD-R-Formats-SBC-06D1S-U/dp/B004G603MO

Wow...looks nice, but for $157 I can get a Samsung drive that burns BR!

jmpage2 · Feb 4, 2013

taylord22 said:
I researched and tested a few external drives (including the 12x samsung), but I finally ended up with an internal drive in a USB enclosure...perfection. Far greater bang for buck if high read speeds and USB 3.0 are important to you.

There is no optical drive out there that can saturate the speed of USB 2, let alone USB 3 so USB 3 is totally unnecessary in this kind of application.

What MakeMKV rip speeds do you get with your drive and what model is it?

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fhall1 said:
I'd like to jump in here too....I'm looking for a slimline BluRay reader/CD-DVD burner (doesn't have to burn BluRay - just read them). I'd like it to be fairly reliable though. The $50 ones I see on newegg get crappy reviews. Any ideas out there?

There is an LG model that is available on eBay for about $65. I was going to go with that one, but decided that for an extra $30 the physically smaller Samsung unit would probably be preferable. Supposedly the Samsung has superior error correction for reading discs with scratches also.

AlabamaSlammer · Feb 4, 2013

My buddy uses this on his new iMac and has it hooked up by the thunderbolt to firewire adapter. It is a little on the expensive side...

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other World Computing/MRF8UEBDW14/

davids8477 · Feb 4, 2013

fhall1 said:
Wow...looks nice, but for $157 I can get a Samsung drive that burns BR!

Yes I see its no longer a current model. When I bought it it was $65.00!!!

taylord22 · Feb 5, 2013

jmpage2 said:
There is no optical drive out there that can saturate the speed of USB 2, let alone USB 3 so USB 3 is totally unnecessary in this kind of application.

What MakeMKV rip speeds do you get with your drive and what model is it?

http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronic...qid=1360082494&sr=8-4&keywords=blu+ray+burner

It does have minor issues with reading damaged discs, but the one time I've encountered the problem all it took was a little pledge to get around it. Really consistent rips...I'll get the exact speed for you later, but from a time-frame perspective, it's probably around 20-30% faster than the Samsung external that I had previously. But the consistency/quality of the rips is where the big difference is...

I average anywhere from 7-9x on most films...

Also, while you're right about USB 2.0 speeds, I've yet to encounter USB 2.0 transfer speeds that actually are as high/consistent as their listed 'theoretical speeds' actually are. For a small premium, I'm side-stepping that mental worry and future proofing myself with my 3.0 enclosure. At least, that's my justification for the extra $15

fhall1 · Feb 6, 2013

I ended up getting the Samsung...for few bucks more it'll burn BR (even though I don't intend to) and it seems to get good reveiws for reliability and compatibility.

jmpage2 · Feb 6, 2013

Yeah, I forgot to mention that... one of the reasons I picked the 506-BB is that it was only $25 more and burned BD. While I don't believe I will ever use that functionality it's nice to have it in the event something changes my mind down the road.

MadJens · Feb 21, 2013

I picked up a SE-506BB myself but I can't use it with the newest beta version of MakeMKV. The program or drive always fail to read the content of the disc and I get these errors called OS error - posix:00404040 and Posix error - Input/output error! Is there something I need to make sure before using the drive?

jmpage2 · Feb 21, 2013

MadJens said:
I picked up a SE-506BB myself but I can't use it with the newest beta version of MakeMKV. The program or drive always fail to read the content of the disc and I get these errors called OS error - posix:00404040 and Posix error - Input/output error! Is there something I need to make sure before using the drive?

You should report the trouble in the MakeMKV forums, that's what they're there for.

MadJens · Feb 21, 2013

Thanks I will do that. I just thought maybe you guys had some tips.

jmpage2 · Feb 21, 2013

MadJens said:
Thanks I will do that. I just thought maybe you guys had some tips.

Well, I don't have the 506BB any longer, but when I did I did not have any trouble with MakeMKV, so perhaps the version you are now testing broke something. Also, make sure that you are using DASPI to interface MakeMKV to the BD unit.

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