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Old Feb 3, 2013, 04:46 AM   #1
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Hi all - I'm currently in the market for a MBP. I cant really afford brand new prices so I've been looking on eBay and doing some research according to everymac.com , there are a few old MBP that even support 16GB RAM. I was thinking about just separately buying an SSD and more ram, I thought that would make it cheaper. It does but not by a lot.
EBay has some mental prices for second hand gear! For example I saw a 2009 (uncustomised) MBP go for 700. Was a 13 inch too. They're 999 new?
Am I missing something or Do MBP really hold their price? Also, does anyone know anywhere I could potentially buy cheaper than eBay?(UK) . thanks guys
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 05:42 AM   #2
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Can you give us more details on that computer saying its selling for 799?
09 MBP 13in wont tell us much. Spec details maybe nice.

But my 2011 MBP 17in, purchased at 2500USD, is around 1800USD according to Mac2Sell.
Mac2Sell even tells the price a bit higher than what they really sell for so
my 17in would probably be around 1600~1700USD.
Prices on these drops fairly quickly.
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 05:59 AM   #3
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Can you give us more details on that computer saying its selling for 799?
09 MBP 13in wont tell us much. Spec details maybe nice.

But my 2011 MBP 17in, purchased at 2500USD, is around 1800USD according to Mac2Sell.
Mac2Sell even tells the price a bit higher than what they really sell for so
my 17in would probably be around 1600~1700USD.
Prices on these drops fairly quickly.
Regardless of spec, 700 for a 4 year old computer is a joke. So I dont think that's relevant. I was just making a point that it was expensive.
I believe it was around 120GB HDD , duo-core and 4GB RAM . its gone now though so can't see it
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 06:01 AM   #4
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Regardless of spec, 700 for a 4 year old computer is a joke. So I dont think that's relevant. I was just making a point that it was expensive.
I believe it was around 120GB HDD , duo-core and 4GB RAM . its gone now though so can't see it
Yeah thats definitely not 700.
I meant it by if it came with after market parts.
Having optibay with dual 512GB SSD can bring up the price.
But with that spec, its probably less than 400 I should say.
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 09:08 AM   #5
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Yeah thats definitely not 700.
I meant it by if it came with after market parts.
Having optibay with dual 512GB SSD can bring up the price.
But with that spec, its probably less than 400 I should say.
Unfortunately ebay is full of moronic consumors who no nothing about technology. It's a Mac so they automatically think its worth loads.

Surely for this very reason there must be a better place to buy?

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Old Feb 3, 2013, 09:34 AM   #6
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Unfortunately ebay is full of moronic consumors who no nothing about technology. It's a Mac so they automatically think its worth loads.

Surely for this very reason there must be a better place to buy?
Seems like Apple refurb have better deal than this crap.
Its going to be fairly new device but better compared to that price.
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 11:29 AM   #7
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Seems like Apple refurb have better deal than this crap.
Its going to be fairly new device but better compared to that price.
I've found a few fairly priced ones. Wish me luck.
Although refurb looks to be the best option at the moment. Could get a fair price if consumors weren't stupid!
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 11:40 AM   #8
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I guess you could buy refurbished and then buy the box separately on eBay or something... but wouldn't the serial numbers be different on the box compared to the product? Hmm
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Very few people need 16GB of RAM - I would spend more on something with a faster CPU and live with 8GB
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 12:31 PM   #10
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Unfortunately ebay is full of moronic consumors who no nothing about technology. It's a Mac so they automatically think its worth loads.

Surely for this very reason there must be a better place to buy?

prices of apple gear over here in the uk are astronomical on ebay.. i sold a 3gs last year for 300.. i tought it was a timewaster, but he actually paid and left pos feedback... i watched a 2009 mbp 13 sell for 520 yesterday, bog standard, no upgrades..... is mental... almost tempted to put my 2010 mbp 13 on there, mint condition, ssd and 8gb ram..... be stupid not to really, then take the funds and put towards new model ;-)
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 12:44 PM   #11
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[QUOTE danny32;16777292]prices of apple gear over here in the uk are astronomical on ebay.. i sold a 3gs last year for 300.. i tought it was a timewaster, but he actually paid and left pos feedback... i watched a 2009 mbp 13 sell for 520 yesterday, bog standard, no upgrades..... is mental... almost tempted to put my 2010 mbp 13 on there, mint condition, ssd and 8gb ram..... be stupid not to really, then take the funds and put towards new model ;-)[/QUOTE]

Glad i'm not the only one who thinks this !!!!
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 12:51 PM   #12
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[QUOTE danny32;16777292]prices of apple gear over here in the uk are astronomical on ebay.. i sold a 3gs last year for 300.. i tought it was a timewaster, but he actually paid and left pos feedback... i watched a 2009 mbp 13 sell for 520 yesterday, bog standard, no upgrades..... is mental... almost tempted to put my 2010 mbp 13 on there, mint condition, ssd and 8gb ram..... be stupid not to really, then take the funds and put towards new model ;-)
Glad i'm not the only one who thinks this !!!![/QUOTE]

its ridiculous mate, but i aint gonna argue, better for selling

sold a 2006 1.1 mbp 13 two weeks ago for a shade under 300, ppl are daft when it comes to ebay...
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 01:22 PM   #13
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Glad i'm not the only one who thinks this !!!!
its ridiculous mate, but i aint gonna argue, better for selling

sold a 2006 1.1 mbp 13 two weeks ago for a shade under 300, ppl are daft when it comes to ebay...[/QUOTE]

Amazing. I've just seen a 2009 15inch MBP (not bad condition). 2.5Ghz duo-core, 4GB RAm, 650... surely that's wrong?
Old processors , ok the ram is OK but it's SO cheap to upgrade, it's OLD so the motherboard isn't going to be seeing the best of days... hating eBay right now. i'm looking for refurb.
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 01:34 PM   #14
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its ridiculous mate, but i aint gonna argue, better for selling

sold a 2006 1.1 mbp 13 two weeks ago for a shade under 300, ppl are daft when it comes to ebay...
Amazing. I've just seen a 2009 15inch MBP (not bad condition). 2.5Ghz duo-core, 4GB RAm, 650... surely that's wrong?
Old processors , ok the ram is OK but it's SO cheap to upgrade, it's OLD so the motherboard isn't going to be seeing the best of days... hating eBay right now. i'm looking for refurb.[/QUOTE]

probably your best bet... mine should do well.... 8gb ram and ssd
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 02:26 PM   #15
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Have a look at Amazon

According to the MacRumors buyers guide the MBP's are due for an upgrade - and Amazon has some interesting deals on for the rest of today.

899 for a 13" MBP?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Apple-13-inc...9923095&sr=1-1
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 02:44 PM   #16
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bargains are out there, this seems a good price
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Macbook-Pr...p2047675.l2557
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 03:14 PM   #17
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I don't think I would ever buy a used Mac from eBay. I've only ever sold, due to - for some reason, people paying really over the odds for what's on offer.

The only case I would buy, would be on Buy it Now on one of the daily deals if one came up. As for finding a better 'place' to buy, in the UK - I'm yet to find one, second hand Macs are ludicrous in price, might be worth seeing if someone you know is looking to sell and go down that route - but you're better off buying refurb from Apple, or pretty handy if you know a student and you can get around 15% off new Macs.
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 04:05 PM   #18
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Steer away form all posts that say, paid xxx for it new. That's a sign the seller is still attached to the item.
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Old Feb 3, 2013, 04:54 PM   #19
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Cheers for the responses. Almost got a good deal today but didn't pursue it due to excessive body damage. Ebayers are stupid. They bid days before the end. Every buyer knows the longer you wait the cheaper it'll be for all. I suppose the only saving grace is that when I go to sell my Mac that I will buy, I'll get a good price.
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Old Feb 4, 2013, 01:29 AM   #20
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Some advice please.. 450 for a second hand Macbook Pro, 2009, 128GB SSD, 4GB RAM, 2.53Ghz duel core, MacBookPro5,5.
Couple of small dents on the under side. Will probably upgrade to max ram of 8. Good deal or bad?
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Some advice please.. 450 for a second hand Macbook Pro, 2009, 128GB SSD, 4GB RAM, 2.53Ghz duel core, MacBookPro5,5.
Couple of small dents on the under side. Will probably upgrade to max ram of 8. Good deal or bad?
thats more than what i paid for my 2010 mate... and mines mint/ boxed, original discs
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Old Feb 4, 2013, 04:24 PM   #22
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That's over $700 USD.

With dents/scratches, probably original battery as well, I would say it's a bad deal.

Dents suggest that it's been dropped, or has had heavy things dropped onto it. You don't know what the long term affects of that will be .. it depends on what (if any) damage may have been done to it internally. So ...

Go back and offer 250, but don't pay anymore than 300. Tell them you can't pay what they're asking for a system that has dents on it, and give them the reason I just gave.

Or just pass on it altogether.
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That's over $700 USD.

With dents/scratches, probably original battery as well, I would say it's a bad deal.

Dents suggest that it's been dropped, or has had heavy things dropped onto it. You don't know what the long term affects of that will be .. it depends on what (if any) damage may have been done to it internally. So ...

Go back and offer 250, but don't pay anymore than 300. Tell them you can't pay what they're asking for a system that has dents on it, and give them the reason I just gave.

Or just pass on it altogether.
As far as Apple is concerned, 1$=0.83=1.04€. And that reflects itself on the second hand market as well -> 450=$550, which is $68 more than the 300 you've suggested.

Globalization can be strange.
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Just to pile on, I tried pretty hard to buy second hand but it was too difficult. People were asking too much for their used equipment so I bought refurbished. I'm sure you can find a motivated seller if you're diligent in your search, but I found it to be a waste of time.
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Just to pile on, I tried pretty hard to buy second hand but it was too difficult. People were asking too much for their used equipment so I bought refurbished. I'm sure you can find a motivated seller if you're diligent in your search, but I found it to be a waste of time.
in a very strange way I am happy this is a common issue. I had feared I was probably being a bit tight with my money.
I've decided I'm better to buy a newer model (anything with an i3/5/7 processor in).
Everyone here is right, the second hand prices especially on eBay are a joke. I am looking to spend 600. Surely that should get me a 2011 Mac right? Will keep an eye our for refurbished Macs. May bite the bullet and get one but it's a bit more than I wanted to spend.

Some of these people are idiots though. They see numbers and think it means they're getting a great deal. People put 1000GB hard drive and 8GB RAM, the non-techies will see big numbers and think they're getting a lot for their money.
I'm a web developer and musician. It's been a long time coming but I really want to get a Mac sorted now.
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