Why is "send as a text message" included alongside copy?

[TH55]

This is retarded, I constantly accidentally send duplicate texts because I'm trying to copy it. Sending as a text message is completely unrelated and is redundant because the option is already available elsewhere.

[Gav2k]

How so?

So I got to iMessage someone and it's important but it won't send straight away I hold the bubble and send as a text. Works for me

[TH55]

Originally Posted by Gav2k

How so?

So I got to iMessage someone and it's important but it won't send straight away I hold the bubble and send as a text. Works for me

That's what the red bubble w exclamation point to the right of the message is for!

[Gav2k]

Originally Posted by TH55

That's what the red bubble w exclamation point to the right of the message is for!

No that only happens if you have no reception

[matttye]

Don't blame the software for your own mistakes

[dictoresno]

i think its so if you have a crummy data connection and imessage isnt working well, you can choose to send it immediately as a text instead of waiting 10 minutes for ios to do it for you.

[TH55]

Originally Posted by Gav2k

No that only happens if you have no reception

Oh ok

[sviato]

My friend has iMessage on his Mac but no data on his phone so when I try to send him a text but he's not on his computer it tries to send as an iMessage so I use that option to send the message as a text because for some reason it won't do it automatically even though the iMessage doesn't deliver. Holy run-on sentence

[Interstella5555]

Originally Posted by TH55

That's what the red bubble w exclamation point to the right of the message is for!

No, it's not.

[KoukiFC3S]

Send as text disappears once the iMessage is delivered.

[TH55]

Originally Posted by Interstella5555

No, it's not.

Then what is it for?

[mikeydeezy]

Originally Posted by TH55

Then what is it for?

That's alerting you the message couldn't send at all.

iMessages that remain undelivered are sent as texts 10 minutes later. Instead of waiting that period of time knowing it wont send you can rush it along to send as a text.

Easy no?

[Interstella5555]

Originally Posted by TH55

Then what is it for?

It's to alert you that a message has failed to send, you can retry or cancel it, whichever you want.

[TH55]

Originally Posted by Interstella5555

It's to alert you that a message has failed to send, you can retry or cancel it, whichever you want.

But it also gives you the option to "send as a text message" which is the only time you really need that option

[C DM]

Originally Posted by TH55

But it also gives you the option to "send as a text message" which is the only time you really need that option

Well, as mentioned before, it's not the only time--you might decide to send an iMessage as a text message before it fails (typically only after 10+ minutes) so that you can get your message sent immediately and not delay and wait for it to actually fail.

[KoukiFC3S]

Originally Posted by C DM

Well, as mentioned before, it's not the only time--you might decide to send an iMessage as a text message before it fails (typically only after 10+ minutes) so that you can get your message sent immediately and not delay and wait for it to actually fail.

I use that all the time. SMS is more reliable in low signal or congested areas.

[TH55]

Originally Posted by C DM

Well, as mentioned before, it's not the only time--you might decide to send an iMessage as a text message before it fails (typically only after 10+ minutes) so that you can get your message sent immediately and not delay and wait for it to actually fail.

Oh ok, gotcha