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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:11 AM   #51
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You don't know what a GPU is.
Okay, you got me.

Please tell me what a GPU is.
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:12 AM   #52
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Will it be a complete refresh or just a new chipset? Only time will tell.
It'll have to be a redesign to fit the new EU standards!
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:12 AM   #53
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I really wish apple would make something like the iMac but without the screen.
That's funny. Like a car without the…uhm…car.
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:12 AM   #54
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Since they are assembled in Cork, Ireland

Feb - April
The earth revolves around the sun differently in Ireland?
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:13 AM   #55
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It'll have to be a redesign to fit the new EU standards!
Not necessarily, they could keep the case design and only make minimal internal changes.
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:14 AM   #56
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:14 AM   #57
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With the current trends of things here's what to expect:

1. 30% thinner design

2. non-upgradable parts

3. 40% less packaging (for the environment, man)



Missing anything?
Nope, sounds like your bitterness is pretty well stated.
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:15 AM   #58
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June, just like every year. But they don't announce new hardware there - that'll be all for OS X 10.9 and iOS 7.
Apart from that they have announced new hardware there every single year except 2011, which was dedicated to software.
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:17 AM   #59
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I think most folks here would like a little more graphics power than the little old mini. Good little machines, but not what you'd class as an expandable, semi future proof computer.

I for one would like to be able to upgrade my graphics card after a couple of years, maybe even the hard drive too. That doesn't sound like the mini as it stands now.

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...Doesn't sound like the iMac either - The GPU is on the motherboard or is a proprietary board, and the Hard Drives are VERY upgradeable on the Mini... Have you ever seen how easy they are to open? With the iMac, I have to rip the glass off... Which is now glued down! let alone that the Mini opens from the bottom and immediately exposes the RAM for upgrade. Try upgrading RAM on the 21.5 iMac... Why in God's name did they NOT put a RAM DOOR on that thing? Especially considering that they didn't forget in the 27"... Boo Apple!
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:18 AM   #60
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Best Apple related news I've heard in a long time.
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:18 AM   #61
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I think the next Mac I buy will be a Mac Pro, if they're still being sold in 3-4 years time. What I want to know is, will it be easy to use my current 2011 iMac as the display?
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:19 AM   #62
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i doubt this... if it is true it is more of a spec bump and redsign to meet the new EU saftey spec... with the real update in the fall.
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:20 AM   #63
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The earth revolves around the sun differently in Ireland?
The definition of spring is ambiguous.

From the wikipedia page:
The specific definition of the exact timing of "spring" varies according to local climate, cultures and customs.

Although defining spring based on equinox to solstice is popular in the US, that's not the only way.
Again from wikipedia:
in most North Temperate Zone locations, spring months are March, April and May,
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:23 AM   #64
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You assume that they will use Xeons.
As opposed to what?


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Like 12 seconds after I buy a hackintosh! I'm not kidding!
You won't regret it. Even if this is a decent upgrade, it may still be a good three months away, and who knows if the pricing will be competitive.

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That's funny. Like a car without the…uhm…car.
You do realize there's a computer in there too?
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:23 AM   #65
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The earth revolves around the sun differently in Ireland?
I assume he's pointing to the Irish tradition of using St Brigid's Day as the start of Spring....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_...sed_reckoning]


I still contend that Apple is a North American Country therefore they would use the traditional North American calendar when quoting a season. Frankly I don't see them confirming a "Spring" release when "Spring" is already here based on the Irish calendar.
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:26 AM   #66
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Masking the questionable credibility of the source for such an information, for me the most interesting part is that the newsletter explicitly mentions that a new "Mac Pro" would be coming. Originally Tim Cook last year spoke of an 'exicting new product for Pro users' or something like that (in the content of not having mentioned the Mac Pro during the Show before).

Assuming that Apple keeping the name would be true - how are chances that they would really leave the concept of having a big box with lots of internal space and Intel server grade components without changing the name as well?! After all people associate the term 'Mac Pro' with exactly such a setup.

And if it's "only" a redesign (say - slightly changed optics, perhaps a little smaller, updated innards) then why did they wait so long? Could have done this easily with the pathetic so-called "update" last year.

Could be a simply explanation like they wanted to let the MP die but reconsidered due to the flak they got from users worldwide.

But somehow i suspect (and wish for) a more radical change which simply took more time to test and implement. Something like a massively multicore ARM beast for example... Perhaps with increased modularity to add performance blocks with additional CPU's, slots, memory or storage at will.

Big chance to demonstrate that they can still innovate beyond making things slimmer every other year.
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:26 AM   #67
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...Doesn't sound like the iMac either - The GPU is on the motherboard or is a proprietary board, and the Hard Drives are VERY upgradeable on the Mini... Have you ever seen how easy they are to open? With the iMac, I have to rip the glass off... Which is now glued down! let alone that the Mini opens from the bottom and immediately exposes the RAM for upgrade. Try upgrading RAM on the 21.5 iMac... Why in God's name did they NOT put a RAM DOOR on that thing? Especially considering that they didn't forget in the 27"... Boo Apple!
Agreed - don't want an imac, tyvm. Much rather they made the damned xMac already, even though it seems a hopeless cause. And I wish people would stop saying 'it'll cannibalise this/that'. To paraphrase, we have to get away from the idea that for the xmac to win, the imac/mac pro has to lose. There are millions more potential young xmac buyers now. Time to make a machine this potential new user base would be interested in.
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:27 AM   #68
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Not necessarily, they could keep the case design and only make minimal internal changes.
LOL, like June 2012.
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:33 AM   #69
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Get ready for the new Mac Pro, featuring a 3" thin chassis. Now available with 8, 16 and 32GB of RAM (soldered).
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:35 AM   #70
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Like 12 seconds after I buy a hackintosh! I'm not kidding!
Surely you can cancel that order if it truly upsets you.
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:35 AM   #71
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I think most folks here would like a little more graphics power than the little old mini. Good little machines, but not what you'd class as an expandable, semi future proof computer.

I for one would like to be able to upgrade my graphics card after a couple of years, maybe even the hard drive too. That doesn't sound like the mini as it stands now.

Cheers,

Ray
Exactly. While the MacPro needs to say for those doing rendering etc - I for one love the Mac mini. It already has space for two HD/SSD and a fast quad core hyperthreading i7. The only thing that lets it down is the integrated graphics. I run dual screens and the animation in OSX is sluggish and jerky. A slightly bigger box with space for a good graphics card would be perfect.
In fact, all it really needs is a 1GB 6770 or the newer 1GB NVidia GT cards found in the 2011/2012 MBPro - I'd still be very happy with that for >4 years, but the crappy HD3000/4000 are what will probably make me finally ditch SL and upgrade. (I'll likely leave the 2011 mac mini headless and screenshare for Rosetta applications.)
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:35 AM   #72
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Such a poor translation... meh

OK let's go:

Important message about the Mac Pro product line:

Dear Sir, Madam,

Starting March the 1st, Apple will not sale Mac Pro in the European Union anymore: these products infringe (...lawyer's blablablah...). Apple will take Mac Pro orders with CTO or custom made configurations until february the 18th to guarantee a delivery before march the 1st 2013.

Yet we think that the Mac Pro sales shutdown is only temporary, Apple informs us that a new Mac pro product line will be released in spring 2013. We will off course let you know about these products as soon as they are released.

The France Systèmes team.


Even in french it's kinda weird and poorly written.

Ah well, hope this helps you guys to better understand the point of this message.

As a side note, I wonder what kind of communication is that: is Apple known to leak such a huge info through their resellers ? I find this hard to believe. Maybe just another poor guy seeing his business going down and desperetaly trying to draw attention.

Future will tell us...
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:38 AM   #73
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I would think late spring. It would be silly if the new Mac Pro comes with anything less than haswell.
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:40 AM   #74
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The earth revolves around the sun differently in Ireland?
Yes. Much the same as Australians enjoy christmas in Summer.

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/ireland/weather

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I assume he's pointing to the Irish tradition of using St Brigid's Day as the start of Spring....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_...sed_reckoning]


I still contend that Apple is a North American Country therefore they would use the traditional North American calendar when quoting a season. Frankly I don't see them confirming a "Spring" release when "Spring" is already here based on the Irish calendar.
April (in Ireland and USA) is still Spring so they could have a new machine good to go very quickly.
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Old Feb 6, 2013, 08:42 AM   #75
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The Mac Pro has become the b***ard child of Apple. They stopped caring a long time ago.
Then why are they bothering. If they stopped caring they should just cut the Mac Pro and out that team in what they do care about -- the sales making iDevices

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probably they will be released togheter with an update version of the TB display..
Just a a guess!
That is my guess. And hopefully there will be a larger size option and HDMI inputs. Cause I don't always need a second display and it would be great to part time it as an Apple TV monitor
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