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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:15 PM   #26
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Did that now is the time !
It's gonna skyrocket?
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:17 PM   #27
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I find all the "give to the loyal customers" or "give raises to staff and retail" very funny.

They are hoarding Shareholders money not anyone else's. All they are really doing is giving the money back to the rightful owners.
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:18 PM   #28
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No Dividend for Me, Please

Keep the 2.7% dividend. You are going to need the cash for future technology and legal battles ahead. Just grow the stock value by delivering products we don't know we want yet. If you do, and the stock price growth reflects it, I doubt anyone is going to miss the dividend.
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:19 PM   #29
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Apple sits on SO MUCH money. Can they possibly ever spend it all?
Yes they can. And they need to do something big. Build a freaking house run by Siri. They have $137 BILLION... do something crazy!
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:19 PM   #30
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It's gonna skyrocket?
It's gonna make a bunch of money for Greenlight Capitol.

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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:20 PM   #31
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What about their loyal customers?
They will stil buy overpriced apple products so what about them?
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:23 PM   #32
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Why not simply buy back stock? Much more effective and increases value
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:23 PM   #33
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Steve would never allow this. This is the difference between an owner and an employee who must show something in a short period of time. Apple doomed.
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:23 PM   #34
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What about their loyal customers?
HAAHAA HEEHEE HOOHOO! I needed that.
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:24 PM   #35
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Did that now is the time !
The time to buy was 440-450. I bet we see a slight pull back from this tomorrow.
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:25 PM   #36
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Billions of dollars in cash and no SatIphone in sight.

I want my SATELLITE iPHONE NOW

Thanks AAPL
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:26 PM   #37
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Keep the 2.7% dividend. You are going to need the cash for future technology and legal battles ahead. Just grow the stock value by delivering products we don't know we want yet. If you do, and the stock price growth reflects it, I doubt anyone is going to miss the dividend.
I'm european so the dividend is taxed twice, i lose a total of 35% on tax. I hate that, a stock buyback would be better or just invest in a new daughter company to build a self sustained tech-city or something, its a crime not to do something bold with that kind of cash.
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:27 PM   #38
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Great news for me as a shareholder
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:31 PM   #39
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Doesn't anyone have issues with the way Wall Street can blackmail companies like this? Personally I think Apple should have used some of that cash to sue/harass Einhorn into the Stone Age.
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:31 PM   #40
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Steve would never allow this. This is the difference between an owner and an employee who must show something in a short period of time. Apple doomed.
Really?

How do people come up with these comments?
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:33 PM   #41
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I have stopped paying attention to the stock because it seems like any good news about Apple makes the stock go down, but can someone explain to me why this statement made it shoot up 10 points? It's not like people didn't already know about this.
So all the hedge funds including Einhorn can minimize their losses
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:34 PM   #42
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How does this impact existing Apple stock holders who can't afford to buy more stock?
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:37 PM   #43
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Doesn't anyone have issues with the way Wall Street can blackmail companies like this? Personally I think Apple should have used some of that cash to sue/harass Einhorn into the Stone Age.
It's not blackmail.

They are saying "give us our money (and it IS their money) or else do something better with it that will build value."

This is essentially Apple saying "we can't figure out anything better to do with it so here you go"

not rocket surgery here, brother
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:38 PM   #44
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I have stopped paying attention to the stock because it seems like any good news about Apple makes the stock go down, but can someone explain to me why this statement made it shoot up 10 points? It's not like people didn't already know about this.
Wall St. is always the last to realize what's going on in technology, and that's combined with a huge blind spot regarding aapl. Next time you're watching some analyst talk about technology, ask yourself if you'd trust this person to install software for you. If the answer is 'no', you're probably more qualified to be a technology stock pundit. Apple is mopping the floor with the competition: they win almost all of the profit in this sector and their every move, since the introduction of the iPhone, has been blatantly copied by the typical selection of commodity junk tech companies who fight over scraps in the low end of the market.

Samsung is going blue in the face trying to convince the less endowed to make up for it with laughably huge screen sizes... Wow, it only fits in fat boy pants, it looks significantly cheaper and cluttered, it's fans are overly hung up on the needlessly stupid screen size, and it's running an OS that's always named according to various sugary junk foods. Oh wait... the other message is that it's cheaper, but just as 'cool' as those iPhones! It's really easy to see the demographic target... nothing quite says cheap, overweight, 1-inch wonder faster than Samsung!
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:38 PM   #45
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How about invest 20 billion more into research and development
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:40 PM   #46
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What is up with the preferred stock and why is this good or bad?
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:41 PM   #47
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It's not blackmail.

They are saying "give us our money (and it IS their money) or else do something better with it that will build value."

This is essentially Apple saying "we can't figure out anything better to do with it so here you go"

not rocket surgery here, brother
Actually it is blackmail. Look at how the stock price has been going down. It is just a part of the blackmail.
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:42 PM   #48
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It's not blackmail.

They are saying "give us our money (and it IS their money) or else do something better with it that will build value."

This is essentially Apple saying "we can't figure out anything better to do with it so here you go"

not rocket surgery here, brother
Their initial investment is their money. Along with any profit or loss from their investment.

If they want "their money" back sell the stock.

Their money is only a portion of the money Apple has.
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:42 PM   #49
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What is up with the preferred stock and why is this good or bad?
Non-voting
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Paid before any common stockholders
Owed regardless of company's ability to pay (accumulating)
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Old Feb 7, 2013, 03:43 PM   #50
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Personally I don't see this as such a good thing. I know Wall Street generally likes it, but this is basically Apple admitting that they cannot get a better return investing that money in the business so they are giving it to the shareholders instead. My concern is they have either run out of ideas to use the money, the future tech is far too expensive to invest in, or some other unflattering reason that is masked by the news of a large dividend.

I wonder what their hurdle rate is. Didn't Microsoft do a one time dividend to give back some of their cash hoard at some point? I don't think it generally helps a stock long term but I could be wrong.
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