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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:10 AM   #51
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So nobody was buying them...
Apple is master of the supply chain now, if they procured cheaper parts, they can lower the price and still maintain their margin. Win-win for everyone!
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:10 AM   #52
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The retina 15" is reasonably priced for what you get - considering it's new technology.

The 13" retina was massively overpriced for what you actually got, compared to both the regular MBP, and the 15" retina.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:11 AM   #53
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Was the price of the 15" rMBP's not lowered as well?
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:11 AM   #54
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Prices for disk upgrades are also lower. 256 > 512 = $300
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:12 AM   #55
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Well I'm surprised.. But I'm going to hold on til the Haswell refresh. Does this mean that we won't see updates til much later in the year?
Not necessarily. Apple has done this with the MacBook Pro line in the past (November 2011 comes to mind). We'll probably still see Haswell in July in time for the back to school rush. In the meantime, I'm guessing we'll see a lot more rMBPs sold at $1699 for the 256GB version than we did for $1999. It's the same price Apple was charging for 128GB before.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:12 AM   #56
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Prices for disk upgrades are also lower. 256 > 512 = $300
Damn, that is still obscene when compared to ye ol' spinney disks.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:12 AM   #57
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Actually if you look at Apple price history you will notice that they systematically lower prices of products that use new, expensive technology (like retina display) 6-8 months after release due to optimization in production. It's always happened and it will no doubt happen again with the new iMac in summer/autumn.
Hopefully this is the case.

My issue was that the price was extorniately high for them to make an initial dent, and as others have said, the screen had issues meaning Apple couldn't really justify the price.

But you're right, the first generation is frequently almost a "beta" for the hardcore folks to pick up, criticise, and then it gets refined.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:13 AM   #58
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Is it fair to say that Apple has just killed the 13-inch Acer Aspire S7 which sells for a base price of US$ 1,399.00 with an ultra-low voltage Core i5 processor, 4 GB RAM and 128 GB SSD?
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:13 AM   #59
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It looks like Apple might be trying to cannibalise their non-retina macbook pros in order to simplify their line-up. Pricing the 13inch macbook air at the same point as the 13inch macbook pro was surely an experiment to see what users preferred when the cost factor was taken away.

Either way it's nice to see Apple finally passing savings on SSDs along to the customer.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:14 AM   #60
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Damn, that is still obscene when compared to ye ol' spinney disks.
But a LOT closer to other SSD's.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:14 AM   #61
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Is it fair to say that Apple has just killed the 13-inch Acer Aspire S7 which sells for a base price of US$ 1,399.00 with an ultra-low voltage Core i5 processor, 4 GB RAM and 128 GB SSD?
Not if they're set on running windows 8. ....lol pity the fool.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:16 AM   #62
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OMG, I'm in for the 15 rMBP.

Should I buy one now or wait to Haswell?? (I don't need one now but I want it)

And: Does this mean that they don't update to Haswell until late 2013. Why would they spec bump in Feb if they plan to update to Haswell in June/July?
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:17 AM   #63
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Apple's end is a fact. Regardless of the cost of the parts... innovation is something that Apple did in the past (and more than innovation it should be named as challenging the competitors by including technologies from others in their devices), and now is just a manufacturer of laptops and phones.
Its competition has taken over, and the revolution is over. Now it is time to share the market with the competitors who actually compete on both technology and price, the latter being something Apple still thinks is not worth fighting for (but we'll see how that changes as sales get hurt over time
I'm no expert on these matters, so excuse me if my way of thinking is strange to you..

But aren't you making this comment on an article about Apple decreasing prices and increasing specs?
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:17 AM   #64
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Hah. Walk around a college campus, ANY college campus and see how long you can hold onto that thought. Nice try though.
Retina iPads, yes. MBPs, yes, but students do not generally use RMP at my local university. I have never seen one there.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:19 AM   #65
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gotta wait for quad core haswell based 13" rmbp with gt3 graphics...don't be fooled by 200 bucks discount now.
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I foresee the stock price getting a beating today. There goes the margins.
You only have a margin on something that is selling. The rMBP's were not shifting in any serious volume.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:19 AM   #66
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still waiting for the retina Air's to come out
Hate to say it, but I don't think they'll come out with retina airs. I just don't believe that form factor will allow a big enough battery to compensate for the retina display. Plus, what would differentiate it from the pro model?

My opinion though.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:20 AM   #67
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Been waiting for this. Will pick up a 13 rMBP now. I could of afforded it before too, but I felt like an idiot paying that much.
So you don't feel like an idiot now?
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:20 AM   #68
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No love for Europe, though. Prices are still difficult to swallow...
http://store.apple.com/fr/browse/hom...ly/macbook_pro
They have not updated the website yet, the models sold there still show the old specs.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:21 AM   #69
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I have today put in my 17'' 2008 MBP in for a new logic board. The Apple store chap asked why? I said because it does exactly what I need it to do and has a DVD read write, a PMCIA slot that I seriously need for editing with and 17'' high res screen. It works just fine (when the logic board is replaced) and why would I buy something thats almost 2k with the extra ram?

It comes down to what you need your laptop for? Posing on campus or real world work? Who cares if its Retina or not? I can still do my editing and it looks just fine.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:22 AM   #70
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The 15 inch retina MacBook Pro was already cheaper than an equivalently spec'd 15 inch non retina MacBook Pro, and now this! I know which my next laptop is going to be....
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:22 AM   #71
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Just a question of nomenclature, is the 13" retina considered an ultrabook by definition?
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:22 AM   #72
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Where is the international love Apple?

No changes outside the US, at least for now.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:22 AM   #73
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The prize of the MBr 15" is ridicules in the Danish Apple Store.

17.599,00 DKK equivalent to 3,179.29 USD!

And in the US it is 2,199.00 USD.

Sure there are higher taxes here but that is far from the only reason!
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:22 AM   #74
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Eh, only a clock speed bump, and some price changes. It's good that they are doing it, but not exactly anything special here.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 08:22 AM   #75
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In addition, Apple has lowered prices of upgrade SSD

For example, the SSD upgrade from 256GB to 512GB on the MacBook Air was $500; now it's $300.
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