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Old Feb 13, 2013, 04:04 PM   #51
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Dalrymple is at the top of the heap.
yep. double when he's negating an analyst wild guesses.

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Has he said when he thinks the iPad 5 and mini 2 are coming out?
No and he won't. He has too much respect for the company to make those kind of claims.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 04:04 PM   #52
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Gotta love those analyst's predictions.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 04:04 PM   #53
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I called it this morning after reading Misek's various predictions. Citing "channel checks" for knowledge of a March event to announce an SDK simply made no sense unless he had some alternate meeting for the term "channel checks".
I called it this morning after seeing Misik's name attached to the story. Guy's nothing but a speculative fiction writer these days. I wouldn't trust him to tell me the weather while he's standing outside.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 04:05 PM   #54
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The iPhone came out in June. It was considered revolutionary.
but it was announced in January. Which, if one is using the standard calendar, would be Q1
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 04:07 PM   #55
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Stop posting analyst predictions on MR. You're only encouraging such foolish behavior.
So someone from not from Apple says there will be an Apple TV event.
And someone else not from Apple says there will not be an Apple TV event.

I think I'll wait for someone from Apple to clarify this thanks.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 04:11 PM   #56
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I was kinda looking forward to Developer Tools for AppleTV to be released. It would have been about time too. It definitely needs some more services adding (in the UK at least) like BBC iPlayer, 4OD, ITVPlayer, Demand 5 etc..
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 04:13 PM   #57
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That's the point. If Apple wanted to be informative, they could just issue a press release.

Here's what I imagine happened. Someone at Apple hears about BS rumors that are getting people excited about a non-existent event. Apple wants to shut it down but doesn't want to set a precedent by breaking their wall of silence. So, someone calls Jim and says "kill this - now." Jim posts "nope." Threat neutralized.

Apple doesn't want us to know any more now, they just don't want us to be pissed off because something they were never planning on doing didn't happen. I actually really appreciate Jim's terseness.
Okay.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 04:13 PM   #58
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If only Gruber would tell us what he thinks, then all of Apple's unofficial mouth pieces will have "weighed in".
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 04:19 PM   #59
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The iPhone came out in June. It was considered revolutionary.
"On January 9, 2007 Steve Jobs announced the iPhone at the Macworld convention"

and 3 years later....

"The iPad was announced on January 27, 2010"

and 3 years later...

"Apple TV event"
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 04:26 PM   #60
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It's a real shame that sites like MR feel the need to publish Wall Street analyst speculations or research notes as rumors. The Bloomberg report about 100 people working on a watch is a rumor. A Wall Street analyst making predictions based on little to no inside information is not.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 04:28 PM   #61
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LINK POINTS TO HHTTP

editor probably suffers from stutters.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 04:39 PM   #62
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It's a real shame that sites like MR feel the need to publish Wall Street analyst speculations or research notes as rumors. The Bloomberg report about 100 people working on a watch is a rumor. A Wall Street analyst making predictions based on little to no inside information is not.
Yes, but why do they do it? Because there are people out there that want it. If we ignored these stories, they would stop, but we don't, so they won't. And if they did stop, all those eyeballs (and revenue) would go to the sites that did report it. Don't hate the playa, hate the game.

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So someone from not from Apple says there will be an Apple TV event.
And someone else not from Apple says there will not be an Apple TV event.

I think I'll wait for someone from Apple to clarify this thanks.
So some analyst with a terrible track record and obvious factual errors says there will be an Apple TV event.
And another person who clearly has insider information and a stellar track record when rebutting rumors says there will not be an Apple TV event.

I think I'll wait for someone from Apple to clarify this thanks, although it will never ever happen.

There, I fixed it for you.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 04:39 PM   #63
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That's of course an overstatement. Some of them do get info...Ming-Chi Kuo at KGI for example has excellent information. Not 100% perfect, but pretty darn good.

Misek doesn't have a great track record, and we're of course adding this one to our tracking board.
Here, in case you missed any:

http://www.cultofmac.com/215736/a-hi...m-peter-misek/

And the article image is just too good:

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Old Feb 13, 2013, 04:53 PM   #64
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#MacrumorsCliches
Lol!

Back to topic:

This is my next in "to buy" list! They should release a newer version soon!
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 05:30 PM   #65
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It's a real shame that sites like MR feel the need to publish Wall Street analyst speculations or research notes as rumors. The Bloomberg report about 100 people working on a watch is a rumor. A Wall Street analyst making predictions based on little to no inside information is not.
Pretty crazy, a rumor site posting rumors.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 05:34 PM   #66
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I was kinda looking forward to Developer Tools for AppleTV to be released. It would have been about time too. It definitely needs some more services adding (in the UK at least) like BBC iPlayer, 4OD, ITVPlayer, Demand 5 etc..
Good thing for the moment there are SDK's for both Mac & iOS devices which can send whatever's on their screen over to the AppleTV. Though, yes, it would be nice to get a full-fledged SDK.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 05:55 PM   #67
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What a pompous jerk!


"Nope."

Seriously?

Someone has to check in their unjustified ego at the door.


Radio

Trying to be like Jobs maybe?
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 05:55 PM   #68
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Good thing for the moment there are SDK's for both Mac & iOS devices which can send whatever's on their screen over to the AppleTV. Though, yes, it would be nice to get a full-fledged SDK.
Unfortunately, I think Apple for now is more interested in making lucrative content deals from the big players (Hulu, Netflix, MLB, etc) instead of supporting an App Store on the Apple TV.

And I highly doubt the "developer tools for Apple TV" would be anything more than an update to Xcode. It's not like Apple TV uses some specialized OS.

As rumors go, I was excited about this one.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 06:01 PM   #69
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So someone from not from Apple says there will be an Apple TV event.
And someone else not from Apple says there will not be an Apple TV event.

I think I'll wait for someone from Apple to clarify this thanks.
Apple won't clarify anything. Apple will either send out invitations, or they won't send out invitations.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 06:06 PM   #70
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I wish there was a quick way to reference how accurate these people actually are based on past predictions.
Jim is 100% accurate. The rest all have worse track records.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 06:58 PM   #71
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Apple NEEDS to push the Apple TV and give it 3rd party apps and BlueTooth game controller support!
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 07:04 PM   #72
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Apple NEEDS to push the Apple TV and give it 3rd party apps and BlueTooth game controller support!
Why would it need BlueTooth game controller support when it already can be controlled via your iOS devices - no BlueTooth needed.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 07:11 PM   #73
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Why would it need BlueTooth game controller support when it already can be controlled via your iOS devices - no BlueTooth needed.
You can't really use an iOS device as a good game controller except for NES games. Third-party controllers would just cost extra to have AirPlay. Also, I'd think that BlueTooth would give better response times. The PS3 and XBOX 360 controllers are BlueTooth.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 09:17 PM   #74
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Didn't think so. This sort of stuff belongs at WWDC.
I figured the same thing because the rumored event was to discuss developer opportunities for apple tv's/tv sets. DEVELOPER. That shares some similarity to WWDC because it is a DEVELOPER conference. That being said, the apple tv as it is now would be the perfect device for destroying traditional console gaming once and for all. I believe that if apple release an sdk and app store for apple tv, that allows the remote app to become a developer designed controller, it will become the #1 set top bot ever by a massive margin.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 09:33 PM   #75
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Pretty crazy, a rumor site posting rumors.
I don't consider a Wall Street analyst research note a rumor or really worthy of discussion.
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